| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is 10:40 - Jul 20 with 11533 views | Darth_Koont |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:45 - Jul 20 with 2555 views | Swansea_Blue |
Utterly bizarre |  |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:47 - Jul 20 with 2553 views | lowhouseblue |
7 months after they won a landslide. in the middle of a national crisis. four and a half year's before the next election. it's not that surprising. but is does make you you realise the extreme unrepresentativeness of the twtd bubble.
after the car crash of the election and what led up to it, it was always going to be a very very long way back for the opposition. there is a huge amount of credibility to be regained. |  |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:47 - Jul 20 with 2532 views | footers |
We're a nation of masochists. |  |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:48 - Jul 20 with 2538 views | Herbivore |
England has lost its mind. |  |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:48 - Jul 20 with 2539 views | Darth_Koont |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:45 - Jul 20 by Swansea_Blue |
Utterly bizarre |
But not when you think about the standard of our politics/media over the past decade or more.
This is a systems failure. (Or a success depending on your perspective). | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:49 - Jul 20 with 2535 views | TractorWood |
This is a country that voted for the ideal that leaving the biggest trading bloc in the world will improve our economy.
Nothing surprises me anymore. |  |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:49 - Jul 20 with 2520 views | Darth_Koont |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:47 - Jul 20 by lowhouseblue |
7 months after they won a landslide. in the middle of a national crisis. four and a half year's before the next election. it's not that surprising. but is does make you you realise the extreme unrepresentativeness of the twtd bubble.
after the car crash of the election and what led up to it, it was always going to be a very very long way back for the opposition. there is a huge amount of credibility to be regained. |
Gmpf. | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:53 - Jul 20 with 2497 views | Darth_Koont |
Blimey! That's insane too.
The US and the UK have become the basket cases of the developed world. | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:54 - Jul 20 with 2490 views | lowhouseblue |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:53 - Jul 20 by Darth_Koont |
Blimey! That's insane too.
The US and the UK have become the basket cases of the developed world. |
as the article suggest he's either selling something or he's not at all well. | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:55 - Jul 20 with 2472 views | homer_123 |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:48 - Jul 20 by Darth_Koont |
But not when you think about the standard of our politics/media over the past decade or more.
This is a systems failure. (Or a success depending on your perspective). |
More the fact that the vitriol that comes with 'having a view'.
Gone are the days where people seemed to be able to get along but have differing views and opinions without it degenerating into a slanging match or mass generalisations.
It's OK to have different views, it's OK to support different political parties. It's OK to support the notion of a political party even if you personally don't agree with every single aspect or policy of that party. |  |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:56 - Jul 20 with 2467 views | homer_123 |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:54 - Jul 20 by lowhouseblue |
as the article suggest he's either selling something or he's not at all well. |
Neither of which precludes him from running for president etc etc etc.
In fact, in might help him. | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:57 - Jul 20 with 2454 views | Darth_Koont |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:54 - Jul 20 by lowhouseblue |
as the article suggest he's either selling something or he's not at all well. |
Which didn't stop Trump from winning.
Although I think this will more realistically be about taking votes from Biden. | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:57 - Jul 20 with 2439 views | footers |
Haha. Do it, America, do it. I double dare you to do it. Please. | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:59 - Jul 20 with 2412 views | Darth_Koont |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:55 - Jul 20 by homer_123 |
More the fact that the vitriol that comes with 'having a view'.
Gone are the days where people seemed to be able to get along but have differing views and opinions without it degenerating into a slanging match or mass generalisations.
It's OK to have different views, it's OK to support different political parties. It's OK to support the notion of a political party even if you personally don't agree with every single aspect or policy of that party. |
I think "having a view" and putting that above objective facts and debate is the big problem.
Our politics and media are absolutely dominated by these people. | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:00 - Jul 20 with 2395 views | itfcjoe |
Who is the black line? Just a generic other.
It's good to be ahead in the polls, but there is still a long way back for Labour, people aren't going to start looking at the detail of the Tories failures until this is over and there is a chance for a re-established Labour party to start spelling it out. Foundations are still going down currently - traps being laid on a weekly basis for them. |  |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:00 - Jul 20 with 2392 views | Swansea_Blue |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 10:48 - Jul 20 by Darth_Koont |
But not when you think about the standard of our politics/media over the past decade or more.
This is a systems failure. (Or a success depending on your perspective). |
True. Not helped by the Labour infighting either. I see that the Corbyn tribe are attacking the Guardian now; absolute madness. | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:04 - Jul 20 with 2365 views | SomethingBlue |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:00 - Jul 20 by itfcjoe |
Who is the black line? Just a generic other.
It's good to be ahead in the polls, but there is still a long way back for Labour, people aren't going to start looking at the detail of the Tories failures until this is over and there is a chance for a re-established Labour party to start spelling it out. Foundations are still going down currently - traps being laid on a weekly basis for them. |
I'm not sure enough people will ever be interested in the detail. We are to a maddeningly large extent a country of people who think everything is a bit of a laugh and that they know best. The Calvin Klein jokes and all the rest are repugnant but they sure do a job. |  |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:06 - Jul 20 with 2335 views | GlasgowBlue |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:00 - Jul 20 by Swansea_Blue |
True. Not helped by the Labour infighting either. I see that the Corbyn tribe are attacking the Guardian now; absolute madness. |
Yeah that been entertaining to watch.
You have to have some warped view of politics if you think people like Marina Hyde is “Tory enabling”. [Post edited 20 Jul 2020 11:06]
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:08 - Jul 20 with 2323 views | Herbivore |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:04 - Jul 20 by SomethingBlue |
I'm not sure enough people will ever be interested in the detail. We are to a maddeningly large extent a country of people who think everything is a bit of a laugh and that they know best. The Calvin Klein jokes and all the rest are repugnant but they sure do a job. |
The majority of the public are essentially completely apolitical so it's easy to win them over with a headline (good or bad) or a few empty promises here and there. Very few people vote Tory because of deeply held political convictions, they vote for them because they're scared of the alternatives (aided by the media) or they like the promise of a few more quid in their pocket and don't really care that the trade off is under investment in public services and stitching up the young and poor. | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:08 - Jul 20 with 2320 views | Darth_Koont |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:00 - Jul 20 by Swansea_Blue |
True. Not helped by the Labour infighting either. I see that the Corbyn tribe are attacking the Guardian now; absolute madness. |
Unfortunately I think the Guardian's editorial position over the last few years has been pretty poor.
As much as anyone supposedly outside the Labour party itself, they've been invested in the factionalism, backstabbing and ultimately an inability to cope with a challenge to the status quo.
There's still time for them to rehabilitate themselves in my eyes but, as it stands, they're part of the problem unfortunately. | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:08 - Jul 20 with 2319 views | lowhouseblue |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:00 - Jul 20 by Swansea_Blue |
True. Not helped by the Labour infighting either. I see that the Corbyn tribe are attacking the Guardian now; absolute madness. |
that's the thing with bubbles - you're either with us or you're against us - there is nothing else. the poor old guardian wasn't quite loyal enough to corbyn so it's now part of the reason he lost. only squawk box and the canary stuck to the script. | |
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| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:10 - Jul 20 with 2292 views | Darth_Koont |
| What's depressing is how utterly predictable this is on 11:08 - Jul 20 by lowhouseblue |
that's the thing with bubbles - you're either with us or you're against us - there is nothing else. the poor old guardian wasn't quite loyal enough to corbyn so it's now part of the reason he lost. only squawk box and the canary stuck to the script. |
"wasn't quite loyal enough"!??
While handwringing over the need to get the Tories out, they led the personal attacks as you well know. | |
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