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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) 14:48 - Jul 24 with 2985 viewsTheTrueBlue1878


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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:53 - Jul 24 with 2336 viewsBlueBadger

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:57 - Jul 24 with 2327 viewsSitfcB

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:59 - Jul 24 with 2306 viewsBlueBadger

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:57 - Jul 24 by SitfcB



We'll get 1.75 plus add-ons and PRP will call it a 'good deal that lets us reinvest in the team' before he gives Will Keane another contract and lies about attempting to sign Conor Wickham.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:05 - Jul 24 with 2280 viewsCokeIsKey

They can go pull the other one then. Going up next season and not having the face the salary cap is worth far more than £2.5 Million.
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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:08 - Jul 24 with 2253 viewsHerbivore

Not worth letting him go for that £4m seems more appropriate.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:08 - Jul 24 with 2254 viewsTheTrueBlue1878

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:59 - Jul 24 by BlueBadger

We'll get 1.75 plus add-ons and PRP will call it a 'good deal that lets us reinvest in the team' before he gives Will Keane another contract and lies about attempting to sign Conor Wickham.


Evans won't even entertain a figure like that.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:10 - Jul 24 with 2242 viewsTieDyedIn95

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:59 - Jul 24 by BlueBadger

We'll get 1.75 plus add-ons and PRP will call it a 'good deal that lets us reinvest in the team' before he gives Will Keane another contract and lies about attempting to sign Conor Wickham.


I think many supporters are still to realise we are a bang average third division team.

The reality is getting a few million quid for any player at this level is arguably good business. Clubs also know we are happy to sell and we have an owner looking to limit his loss from last season so that will help drive down the value.

Downes may mean the world to us right now but to Palace he's another number that might have some potential if given the right coaching. I see our fans on Twitter demanding we take 10 million for him. We couldn't sell our entire squad for that money right now.

The main advantage of not selling him this window is that his value may increase by the mid season point when teams will be after more players and the landscape is clearer financially.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:13 - Jul 24 with 2217 viewsBlueBadger

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:08 - Jul 24 by TheTrueBlue1878

Evans won't even entertain a figure like that.


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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:17 - Jul 24 with 2200 viewsitfcjoe

Palace monitoring Downes by itfcjoe 18 Jul 20:55
Spoke to a good Palace contact, apparently they think he’s worth £2m



Edit - Evans wants £8m for him, Palace think he's worth £2m....I guess if it creeps up towards £4-5m then we may struggle to turn it down but I think he will be here next season hearing a few bits about this.

Just no need to sell him for £2-3m as he'll retain that value as a minimum and have 2 years left on his deal in summer 2021
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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:35 - Jul 24 with 2091 viewsTheTrueBlue1878

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:17 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe

Palace monitoring Downes by itfcjoe 18 Jul 20:55
Spoke to a good Palace contact, apparently they think he’s worth £2m



Edit - Evans wants £8m for him, Palace think he's worth £2m....I guess if it creeps up towards £4-5m then we may struggle to turn it down but I think he will be here next season hearing a few bits about this.

Just no need to sell him for £2-3m as he'll retain that value as a minimum and have 2 years left on his deal in summer 2021
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I think this bang on. I think £2m is massively undervalued.

Signs pointing towards him being here next year which is massive.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:37 - Jul 24 with 2074 viewsHerbivore

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:17 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe

Palace monitoring Downes by itfcjoe 18 Jul 20:55
Spoke to a good Palace contact, apparently they think he’s worth £2m



Edit - Evans wants £8m for him, Palace think he's worth £2m....I guess if it creeps up towards £4-5m then we may struggle to turn it down but I think he will be here next season hearing a few bits about this.

Just no need to sell him for £2-3m as he'll retain that value as a minimum and have 2 years left on his deal in summer 2021
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I'd prefer to keep him for sure. Thing is, I don't think he's done enough to be worth £8m so no way will we get that and even at £4m a decent chunk of that is still more about potential than anything else. I can see why Palace only want to take a punt at £2m or so but that kind of valuation makes no sense for us. One of those where I think the two parties will just remain too far away from each other, which is good for us all told.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:40 - Jul 24 with 2055 viewsStenvict

Fortunately, we don't NEED to sell him, so surely we're more than happy to turn that sort of bid down. I'm sure Flynn wants to do all he can to help the club get back to the Championship so unlikely he'll be looking to force a move if they offered £2m.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:40 - Jul 24 with 2058 viewsitfcjoe

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:37 - Jul 24 by Herbivore

I'd prefer to keep him for sure. Thing is, I don't think he's done enough to be worth £8m so no way will we get that and even at £4m a decent chunk of that is still more about potential than anything else. I can see why Palace only want to take a punt at £2m or so but that kind of valuation makes no sense for us. One of those where I think the two parties will just remain too far away from each other, which is good for us all told.


Yep, and potentially good for ME long term

If Downes can lead us to promotion next season he'll be worth the £8m we want for him

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:08 - Jul 24 by TheTrueBlue1878

Evans won't even entertain a figure like that.


If that's the price it is a straight NO . Would hope he's worth £5m to any cash rich premier club

He is worth much more than £2m to keep him , our midfield would be powder puff if we lost him
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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:17 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe

Palace monitoring Downes by itfcjoe 18 Jul 20:55
Spoke to a good Palace contact, apparently they think he’s worth £2m



Edit - Evans wants £8m for him, Palace think he's worth £2m....I guess if it creeps up towards £4-5m then we may struggle to turn it down but I think he will be here next season hearing a few bits about this.

Just no need to sell him for £2-3m as he'll retain that value as a minimum and have 2 years left on his deal in summer 2021
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Spot on Joe .

Make him skipper
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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:46 - Jul 24 with 1993 viewsWarkTheWarkITFC

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:10 - Jul 24 by TieDyedIn95

I think many supporters are still to realise we are a bang average third division team.

The reality is getting a few million quid for any player at this level is arguably good business. Clubs also know we are happy to sell and we have an owner looking to limit his loss from last season so that will help drive down the value.

Downes may mean the world to us right now but to Palace he's another number that might have some potential if given the right coaching. I see our fans on Twitter demanding we take 10 million for him. We couldn't sell our entire squad for that money right now.

The main advantage of not selling him this window is that his value may increase by the mid season point when teams will be after more players and the landscape is clearer financially.


A few million quid is massive to your average League One club. But what you have to remember is what other League One clubs have been able to get for their players in past seasons, when fees were lower generally.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-one/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB3#:~:tex

Delph - £8.55m - Leeds to Villa
Lookman - £8m - Charlton to Everton
Powell - £6.75m - Wigan to Crewe
Assombalonga - £5m - Peterborough to Forest
Alli - £6m - MK Dons to Spurs

The list goes on.

Importantly Matt Clarke went for £3.5m to Brighton from Pompey last season. That's the minimum we should be getting for Downes.

Would anyone be surprised if Downes actually captained the club in the next year or so? Probably not. Is he our best player? Probably. He's 21 and played for England at U21 level.

£4m-£5m is ridiculous for this level generally but not for Downes on the basis of the above.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:46 - Jul 24 with 1991 viewsHerbivore

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:40 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe

Yep, and potentially good for ME long term

If Downes can lead us to promotion next season he'll be worth the £8m we want for him


Yep. If we manage to go back up and he's had another good season we can easily hold out for the £8m. Hopefully Flynn will understand and won't try to force a move. He seems pretty level headed.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:53 - Jul 24 with 1956 viewsPhilTWTD

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:40 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe

Yep, and potentially good for ME long term

If Downes can lead us to promotion next season he'll be worth the £8m we want for him


I doubt they seriously think they'll get anything like that for him at the moment, he's not shown he's worth that, even more so given the current market situation.

Depends on how much Marcus needs to bring in any cash how much he'd be able to turn down. I thought the £4m recently quoted was about right for the current overall situation, but agree a very good season, the market reinflating and he could be worth a lot more in a year's time.

I'm pretty sure Palace tested the water with an offer in January but not sure how much. Certainly the interest has been strong for some time. I'd be surprised if they thought they could get him for as little as £2m unless they think Town are desperate for cash, as many League One clubs are, of course.

Re Downes, an ex-player with contacts at a Premier League club who were watching him told me they were of the opinion he doesn't do enough to play at that level yet, that he's only involved in a very limited area of the field for the most part.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:57 - Jul 24 with 1909 viewsBluefish

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:17 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe

Palace monitoring Downes by itfcjoe 18 Jul 20:55
Spoke to a good Palace contact, apparently they think he’s worth £2m



Edit - Evans wants £8m for him, Palace think he's worth £2m....I guess if it creeps up towards £4-5m then we may struggle to turn it down but I think he will be here next season hearing a few bits about this.

Just no need to sell him for £2-3m as he'll retain that value as a minimum and have 2 years left on his deal in summer 2021
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Slight issue is player power. If CP are making FD an offer that offer means Premier League and the chance to be financially set up for life.

We can turn it down and refuse but it will create a negative situation with the player and have an impact on other young stars commiting to long deals with us

There has been lots of talk of Andre getting a chance if Flynn goes but I dont see how we are keeping him. He is in the last year with no more options. If he has a successful season with us then we lose him anyway, I just can't see why he would extend his stay here

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:59 - Jul 24 with 1893 viewsHerbivore

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:46 - Jul 24 by WarkTheWarkITFC

A few million quid is massive to your average League One club. But what you have to remember is what other League One clubs have been able to get for their players in past seasons, when fees were lower generally.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-one/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB3#:~:tex

Delph - £8.55m - Leeds to Villa
Lookman - £8m - Charlton to Everton
Powell - £6.75m - Wigan to Crewe
Assombalonga - £5m - Peterborough to Forest
Alli - £6m - MK Dons to Spurs

The list goes on.

Importantly Matt Clarke went for £3.5m to Brighton from Pompey last season. That's the minimum we should be getting for Downes.

Would anyone be surprised if Downes actually captained the club in the next year or so? Probably not. Is he our best player? Probably. He's 21 and played for England at U21 level.

£4m-£5m is ridiculous for this level generally but not for Downes on the basis of the above.


Downes hasn't played for England under-21s.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:05 - Jul 24 with 1859 viewsWarkTheWarkITFC

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:59 - Jul 24 by Herbivore

Downes hasn't played for England under-21s.


Under 20's then.

Whatever the England age group is he's currently in.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:06 - Jul 24 with 1853 viewsElderGrizzly

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:46 - Jul 24 by WarkTheWarkITFC

A few million quid is massive to your average League One club. But what you have to remember is what other League One clubs have been able to get for their players in past seasons, when fees were lower generally.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-one/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB3#:~:tex

Delph - £8.55m - Leeds to Villa
Lookman - £8m - Charlton to Everton
Powell - £6.75m - Wigan to Crewe
Assombalonga - £5m - Peterborough to Forest
Alli - £6m - MK Dons to Spurs

The list goes on.

Importantly Matt Clarke went for £3.5m to Brighton from Pompey last season. That's the minimum we should be getting for Downes.

Would anyone be surprised if Downes actually captained the club in the next year or so? Probably not. Is he our best player? Probably. He's 21 and played for England at U21 level.

£4m-£5m is ridiculous for this level generally but not for Downes on the basis of the above.


Most of those are attacking players too which hikes the price up.

No way is Downes getting anywhere near £8m. 30 odd good games in L1 for a midfielder, who while good, still has a very limited game is just not happening.

£4m maybe and then you are probably looking at top-ups to get near £4m, with a sell-on on top.
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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:10 - Jul 24 with 1836 viewsHerbivore

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:05 - Jul 24 by WarkTheWarkITFC

Under 20's then.

Whatever the England age group is he's currently in.


It's a pretty significant difference. Lots of youngsters play for u-20s and don't go on to much, the u-21s is a pretty significantly higher standard. The best players of Downes' age are playing in u-21 sides rather than u-20 sides.

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:17 - Jul 24 with 1791 viewsitfcjoe

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:10 - Jul 24 by Herbivore

It's a pretty significant difference. Lots of youngsters play for u-20s and don't go on to much, the u-21s is a pretty significantly higher standard. The best players of Downes' age are playing in u-21 sides rather than u-20 sides.


There isn't as much fast tracking that goes on these days, only the truly exceptional get put up age groups nowadays so that isn't that big a deal

But he's unlikely to play for them when he should be next season

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CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:21 - Jul 24 with 1769 viewsHerbivore

CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:17 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe

There isn't as much fast tracking that goes on these days, only the truly exceptional get put up age groups nowadays so that isn't that big a deal

But he's unlikely to play for them when he should be next season


Looking at the most recent u-20 squad in contrast to the u-21s I'd say there's a fair gap in terms of quality though.

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