| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) 14:48 - Jul 24 with 4152 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:53 - Jul 24 with 3332 views | BlueBadger |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:57 - Jul 24 with 3323 views | SitfcB |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:53 - Jul 24 by BlueBadger |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:59 - Jul 24 with 3302 views | BlueBadger |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:57 - Jul 24 by SitfcB |
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We'll get 1.75 plus add-ons and PRP will call it a 'good deal that lets us reinvest in the team' before he gives Will Keane another contract and lies about attempting to sign Conor Wickham. | |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:05 - Jul 24 with 3276 views | CokeIsKey |
They can go pull the other one then. Going up next season and not having the face the salary cap is worth far more than £2.5 Million. |  |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:08 - Jul 24 with 3249 views | Herbivore |
Not worth letting him go for that £4m seems more appropriate. |  |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:08 - Jul 24 with 3250 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:59 - Jul 24 by BlueBadger |
We'll get 1.75 plus add-ons and PRP will call it a 'good deal that lets us reinvest in the team' before he gives Will Keane another contract and lies about attempting to sign Conor Wickham. |
Evans won't even entertain a figure like that. | |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:10 - Jul 24 with 3238 views | TieDyedIn95 |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 14:59 - Jul 24 by BlueBadger |
We'll get 1.75 plus add-ons and PRP will call it a 'good deal that lets us reinvest in the team' before he gives Will Keane another contract and lies about attempting to sign Conor Wickham. |
I think many supporters are still to realise we are a bang average third division team.
The reality is getting a few million quid for any player at this level is arguably good business. Clubs also know we are happy to sell and we have an owner looking to limit his loss from last season so that will help drive down the value.
Downes may mean the world to us right now but to Palace he's another number that might have some potential if given the right coaching. I see our fans on Twitter demanding we take 10 million for him. We couldn't sell our entire squad for that money right now.
The main advantage of not selling him this window is that his value may increase by the mid season point when teams will be after more players and the landscape is clearer financially. |  |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:13 - Jul 24 with 3213 views | BlueBadger |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:08 - Jul 24 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Evans won't even entertain a figure like that. |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:17 - Jul 24 with 3196 views | itfcjoe |
Edit - Evans wants £8m for him, Palace think he's worth £2m....I guess if it creeps up towards £4-5m then we may struggle to turn it down but I think he will be here next season hearing a few bits about this.
Just no need to sell him for £2-3m as he'll retain that value as a minimum and have 2 years left on his deal in summer 2021 [Post edited 24 Jul 2020 15:19]
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:35 - Jul 24 with 3087 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:17 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe |
Edit - Evans wants £8m for him, Palace think he's worth £2m....I guess if it creeps up towards £4-5m then we may struggle to turn it down but I think he will be here next season hearing a few bits about this.
Just no need to sell him for £2-3m as he'll retain that value as a minimum and have 2 years left on his deal in summer 2021 [Post edited 24 Jul 2020 15:19]
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I think this bang on. I think £2m is massively undervalued.
Signs pointing towards him being here next year which is massive. | |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:37 - Jul 24 with 3070 views | Herbivore |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:17 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe |
Edit - Evans wants £8m for him, Palace think he's worth £2m....I guess if it creeps up towards £4-5m then we may struggle to turn it down but I think he will be here next season hearing a few bits about this.
Just no need to sell him for £2-3m as he'll retain that value as a minimum and have 2 years left on his deal in summer 2021 [Post edited 24 Jul 2020 15:19]
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I'd prefer to keep him for sure. Thing is, I don't think he's done enough to be worth £8m so no way will we get that and even at £4m a decent chunk of that is still more about potential than anything else. I can see why Palace only want to take a punt at £2m or so but that kind of valuation makes no sense for us. One of those where I think the two parties will just remain too far away from each other, which is good for us all told. | |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:40 - Jul 24 with 3051 views | Stenvict |
Fortunately, we don't NEED to sell him, so surely we're more than happy to turn that sort of bid down. I'm sure Flynn wants to do all he can to help the club get back to the Championship so unlikely he'll be looking to force a move if they offered £2m. |  |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:40 - Jul 24 with 3054 views | itfcjoe |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:37 - Jul 24 by Herbivore |
I'd prefer to keep him for sure. Thing is, I don't think he's done enough to be worth £8m so no way will we get that and even at £4m a decent chunk of that is still more about potential than anything else. I can see why Palace only want to take a punt at £2m or so but that kind of valuation makes no sense for us. One of those where I think the two parties will just remain too far away from each other, which is good for us all told. |
Yep, and potentially good for ME long term
If Downes can lead us to promotion next season he'll be worth the £8m we want for him | |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:42 - Jul 24 with 3015 views | hadleighboyblue |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:08 - Jul 24 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
Evans won't even entertain a figure like that. |
If that's the price it is a straight NO . Would hope he's worth £5m to any cash rich premier club
He is worth much more than £2m to keep him , our midfield would be powder puff if we lost him | | | |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:44 - Jul 24 with 3001 views | hadleighboyblue |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:17 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe |
Edit - Evans wants £8m for him, Palace think he's worth £2m....I guess if it creeps up towards £4-5m then we may struggle to turn it down but I think he will be here next season hearing a few bits about this.
Just no need to sell him for £2-3m as he'll retain that value as a minimum and have 2 years left on his deal in summer 2021 [Post edited 24 Jul 2020 15:19]
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Spot on Joe .
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:46 - Jul 24 with 2989 views | WarkTheWarkITFC |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:10 - Jul 24 by TieDyedIn95 |
I think many supporters are still to realise we are a bang average third division team.
The reality is getting a few million quid for any player at this level is arguably good business. Clubs also know we are happy to sell and we have an owner looking to limit his loss from last season so that will help drive down the value.
Downes may mean the world to us right now but to Palace he's another number that might have some potential if given the right coaching. I see our fans on Twitter demanding we take 10 million for him. We couldn't sell our entire squad for that money right now.
The main advantage of not selling him this window is that his value may increase by the mid season point when teams will be after more players and the landscape is clearer financially. |
A few million quid is massive to your average League One club. But what you have to remember is what other League One clubs have been able to get for their players in past seasons, when fees were lower generally.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-one/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB3#:~:tex
Delph - £8.55m - Leeds to Villa
Lookman - £8m - Charlton to Everton
Powell - £6.75m - Wigan to Crewe
Assombalonga - £5m - Peterborough to Forest
Alli - £6m - MK Dons to Spurs
The list goes on.
Importantly Matt Clarke went for £3.5m to Brighton from Pompey last season. That's the minimum we should be getting for Downes.
Would anyone be surprised if Downes actually captained the club in the next year or so? Probably not. Is he our best player? Probably. He's 21 and played for England at U21 level.
£4m-£5m is ridiculous for this level generally but not for Downes on the basis of the above. | |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:46 - Jul 24 with 2987 views | Herbivore |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:40 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe |
Yep, and potentially good for ME long term
If Downes can lead us to promotion next season he'll be worth the £8m we want for him |
Yep. If we manage to go back up and he's had another good season we can easily hold out for the £8m. Hopefully Flynn will understand and won't try to force a move. He seems pretty level headed. | |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:53 - Jul 24 with 2952 views | PhilTWTD |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:40 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe |
Yep, and potentially good for ME long term
If Downes can lead us to promotion next season he'll be worth the £8m we want for him |
I doubt they seriously think they'll get anything like that for him at the moment, he's not shown he's worth that, even more so given the current market situation.
Depends on how much Marcus needs to bring in any cash how much he'd be able to turn down. I thought the £4m recently quoted was about right for the current overall situation, but agree a very good season, the market reinflating and he could be worth a lot more in a year's time.
I'm pretty sure Palace tested the water with an offer in January but not sure how much. Certainly the interest has been strong for some time. I'd be surprised if they thought they could get him for as little as £2m unless they think Town are desperate for cash, as many League One clubs are, of course.
Re Downes, an ex-player with contacts at a Premier League club who were watching him told me they were of the opinion he doesn't do enough to play at that level yet, that he's only involved in a very limited area of the field for the most part.
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:57 - Jul 24 with 2905 views | Bluefish |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:17 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe |
Edit - Evans wants £8m for him, Palace think he's worth £2m....I guess if it creeps up towards £4-5m then we may struggle to turn it down but I think he will be here next season hearing a few bits about this.
Just no need to sell him for £2-3m as he'll retain that value as a minimum and have 2 years left on his deal in summer 2021 [Post edited 24 Jul 2020 15:19]
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Slight issue is player power. If CP are making FD an offer that offer means Premier League and the chance to be financially set up for life.
We can turn it down and refuse but it will create a negative situation with the player and have an impact on other young stars commiting to long deals with us
There has been lots of talk of Andre getting a chance if Flynn goes but I dont see how we are keeping him. He is in the last year with no more options. If he has a successful season with us then we lose him anyway, I just can't see why he would extend his stay here |  |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:59 - Jul 24 with 2889 views | Herbivore |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:46 - Jul 24 by WarkTheWarkITFC |
A few million quid is massive to your average League One club. But what you have to remember is what other League One clubs have been able to get for their players in past seasons, when fees were lower generally.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-one/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB3#:~:tex
Delph - £8.55m - Leeds to Villa
Lookman - £8m - Charlton to Everton
Powell - £6.75m - Wigan to Crewe
Assombalonga - £5m - Peterborough to Forest
Alli - £6m - MK Dons to Spurs
The list goes on.
Importantly Matt Clarke went for £3.5m to Brighton from Pompey last season. That's the minimum we should be getting for Downes.
Would anyone be surprised if Downes actually captained the club in the next year or so? Probably not. Is he our best player? Probably. He's 21 and played for England at U21 level.
£4m-£5m is ridiculous for this level generally but not for Downes on the basis of the above. |
Downes hasn't played for England under-21s. | |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:05 - Jul 24 with 2855 views | WarkTheWarkITFC |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:59 - Jul 24 by Herbivore |
Downes hasn't played for England under-21s. |
Under 20's then.
Whatever the England age group is he's currently in. | |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:06 - Jul 24 with 2849 views | ElderGrizzly |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 15:46 - Jul 24 by WarkTheWarkITFC |
A few million quid is massive to your average League One club. But what you have to remember is what other League One clubs have been able to get for their players in past seasons, when fees were lower generally.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-one/transferrekorde/wettbewerb/GB3#:~:tex
Delph - £8.55m - Leeds to Villa
Lookman - £8m - Charlton to Everton
Powell - £6.75m - Wigan to Crewe
Assombalonga - £5m - Peterborough to Forest
Alli - £6m - MK Dons to Spurs
The list goes on.
Importantly Matt Clarke went for £3.5m to Brighton from Pompey last season. That's the minimum we should be getting for Downes.
Would anyone be surprised if Downes actually captained the club in the next year or so? Probably not. Is he our best player? Probably. He's 21 and played for England at U21 level.
£4m-£5m is ridiculous for this level generally but not for Downes on the basis of the above. |
Most of those are attacking players too which hikes the price up.
No way is Downes getting anywhere near £8m. 30 odd good games in L1 for a midfielder, who while good, still has a very limited game is just not happening.
£4m maybe and then you are probably looking at top-ups to get near £4m, with a sell-on on top. |  | | |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:10 - Jul 24 with 2832 views | Herbivore |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:05 - Jul 24 by WarkTheWarkITFC |
Under 20's then.
Whatever the England age group is he's currently in. |
It's a pretty significant difference. Lots of youngsters play for u-20s and don't go on to much, the u-21s is a pretty significantly higher standard. The best players of Downes' age are playing in u-21 sides rather than u-20 sides. | |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:17 - Jul 24 with 2787 views | itfcjoe |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:10 - Jul 24 by Herbivore |
It's a pretty significant difference. Lots of youngsters play for u-20s and don't go on to much, the u-21s is a pretty significantly higher standard. The best players of Downes' age are playing in u-21 sides rather than u-20 sides. |
There isn't as much fast tracking that goes on these days, only the truly exceptional get put up age groups nowadays so that isn't that big a deal
But he's unlikely to play for them when he should be next season | |
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| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:21 - Jul 24 with 2765 views | Herbivore |
| CPFC valuation of Flynn Downes at £2m-£2.5m (n/t) on 16:17 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe |
There isn't as much fast tracking that goes on these days, only the truly exceptional get put up age groups nowadays so that isn't that big a deal
But he's unlikely to play for them when he should be next season |
Looking at the most recent u-20 squad in contrast to the u-21s I'd say there's a fair gap in terms of quality though. | |
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