| Centre Forwards 19:03 - Aug 25 with 6911 views | JDAndCoke |
Anyone a little worried about our situation with strikers currently? Jackson missing today with no mention by PL in post match interview (notably as he listed every other absentee). Hawkins not fit, not had a pre-season by all accounts. God only knows what Norwood is up to and Aaron Drinan has played the most minutes up top for us in pre season...
Am I right to be concerned or overthinking this? |  | | |  |
| Centre Forwards on 22:19 - Aug 25 with 2535 views | Garv |
| Centre Forwards on 19:46 - Aug 25 by Marshalls_Mullet |
If they stay fit, I see Sears and Lankester both adding 10+ goals for us this season. (Feel free to dig this out in 12 months time).
And Jackson and Norwood were both on their way to 15+ goals last season.
If given the service, I think our front men will perform. |
I'll be amazed if Lankester scores 10+ goals.
Hope I'm amazed. |  |
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| Centre Forwards on 23:29 - Aug 25 with 2473 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Centre Forwards on 22:19 - Aug 25 by Garv |
I'll be amazed if Lankester scores 10+ goals.
Hope I'm amazed. |
If he stays fit he will. |  |
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| Centre Forwards on 10:02 - Aug 26 with 2421 views | Wickets |
| Centre Forwards on 21:55 - Aug 25 by BlueBadger |
We need more than one... |
If we could offload 3 we could bring in 2 ideal world and all that . |  | | |
| Centre Forwards on 11:49 - Aug 26 with 2394 views | Terry_Nutkins |
That's a huge ask after 18 months out, at his age and in his position. Certainly think he could contribute 5 or so but I would love to see him creating as well.
We shouldn't expect too much of him after the time out. And we have lots of options.
I do think we will create more with him, Teddy, Dobra and El Mizuni featuring more. Huws has a season behind him and I think he could be massive.
We do need one of Jackson/Norwood to be firing and fit quick.
I'll get shot down but still feeling Keane would have been a good bet. Doesn't mean a lot but he's just netted for Wigan and could be ideal for them. Garner and Keane against us 1st match then...pretty motivated. |  |
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| Centre Forwards on 12:01 - Aug 26 with 2395 views | itfcjoe |
It's a massive concern - we are trying to bed in a way of playing that is heavily reliant on a proper number 9 and the 2 players in the squad who can play this role haven't been deemed fit to play a minute of action so far and the season starts in 2 weeks
If we can't get Norwood or Hawkins fit to start the season and are relying on Drinan then we are in big trouble
Jackson doesn't suit the role at all, I wonder what happens with him |  |
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| Centre Forwards on 14:15 - Aug 26 with 2353 views | Terry_Nutkins |
| Centre Forwards on 12:01 - Aug 26 by itfcjoe |
It's a massive concern - we are trying to bed in a way of playing that is heavily reliant on a proper number 9 and the 2 players in the squad who can play this role haven't been deemed fit to play a minute of action so far and the season starts in 2 weeks
If we can't get Norwood or Hawkins fit to start the season and are relying on Drinan then we are in big trouble
Jackson doesn't suit the role at all, I wonder what happens with him |
Agree with all of that. I'm not quite sure where Jackson fits. He's a decent forward but suits playing in 2 up top. It's kind of similar to how It's struggled to fit Rashford and Martial in (not comparing the standard of player of course).
If Norwood has his head screwed on and is up for the fight and fit we're good but as you say he hasn't played a minute and we'll need the cup games to get him fit...
Jackson in fairness might do well feeding off Hawkins but he's still have to play out wide and I'm not convinced he's that suited to wide role other than he's quick. | |
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| Centre Forwards on 16:18 - Aug 26 with 2325 views | hadleighboyblue |
| Centre Forwards on 11:49 - Aug 26 by Terry_Nutkins |
That's a huge ask after 18 months out, at his age and in his position. Certainly think he could contribute 5 or so but I would love to see him creating as well.
We shouldn't expect too much of him after the time out. And we have lots of options.
I do think we will create more with him, Teddy, Dobra and El Mizuni featuring more. Huws has a season behind him and I think he could be massive.
We do need one of Jackson/Norwood to be firing and fit quick.
I'll get shot down but still feeling Keane would have been a good bet. Doesn't mean a lot but he's just netted for Wigan and could be ideal for them. Garner and Keane against us 1st match then...pretty motivated. |
Keane had plenty of opportunities here to show he was worth keeping . He was a massive disappointment | | | |
| Centre Forwards on 16:38 - Aug 26 with 2302 views | Terry_Nutkins |
| Centre Forwards on 16:18 - Aug 26 by hadleighboyblue |
Keane had plenty of opportunities here to show he was worth keeping . He was a massive disappointment |
I think he lacked consistency definitely but when got service I think he looked really good. When he was on it he looked our best forward. Just think he needed a season injury free. If he is fit next season he'll do well for someone.
I understand the reasons we've not taken him though. | |
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| Centre Forwards on 16:46 - Aug 26 with 2291 views | Dubtractor |
| Centre Forwards on 16:38 - Aug 26 by Terry_Nutkins |
I think he lacked consistency definitely but when got service I think he looked really good. When he was on it he looked our best forward. Just think he needed a season injury free. If he is fit next season he'll do well for someone.
I understand the reasons we've not taken him though. |
Haha. You can't let it drop can you?
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| Centre Forwards on 17:56 - Aug 26 with 2257 views | Terry_Nutkins |
| Centre Forwards on 16:46 - Aug 26 by Dubtractor |
Haha. You can't let it drop can you?
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Haha fair comment. I did say I'd get pelters for bringing it back up. It's like an itch...I just have this feeling he's going to have a good season...
Soz. Haha. | |
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| Centre Forwards on 17:58 - Aug 26 with 2255 views | Terry_Nutkins |
| Centre Forwards on 16:46 - Aug 26 by Dubtractor |
Haha. You can't let it drop can you?
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Might start a Lee Trundle to town rumour to take my mind of Keane. | |
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| Centre Forwards on 20:53 - Aug 26 with 2221 views | Jermynblue |
Ideally you would like all the strikers free from injury and fit from taking part in a full preseason when we start are first game. Therefore, as this looks like not being the case then I can understand the concern.
However, when fully fit and available I feel OK about our striking options. Jackson is an effective striker with 0.64 goals and assists per game last season in the league and prior to the start of last season we did not know how he might perform in League 1. Norwood also got 11 goals and three assists in league and therefore proved he could score in League 1. Add in a Sears and Hawkins with the latter providing a different option then this looks good to me. Finally Drinan looks like he could make more of a contribution to this season than he did a year ago.
Therefore I don't think are problems are with the strikers. It is the midfielders that need to chip in with more goals and assists, From early preseason and some comments made by players it seems that we have been working on patterns of play and movement and if so then this might help the midfield to be more effective. Last year in League you could see teams with players with less technical ability that had good patterns of play probably drummed in to them from training but we seemed to have none of this. Indeed, I would say that our passing and movement in midfield for several seasons now suggests that this is not an area that has been worked upon for some time under more than one manager and to our detriment. | | | |
| Centre Forwards on 21:15 - Aug 26 with 2210 views | hadleighboyblue |
| Centre Forwards on 20:53 - Aug 26 by Jermynblue |
Ideally you would like all the strikers free from injury and fit from taking part in a full preseason when we start are first game. Therefore, as this looks like not being the case then I can understand the concern.
However, when fully fit and available I feel OK about our striking options. Jackson is an effective striker with 0.64 goals and assists per game last season in the league and prior to the start of last season we did not know how he might perform in League 1. Norwood also got 11 goals and three assists in league and therefore proved he could score in League 1. Add in a Sears and Hawkins with the latter providing a different option then this looks good to me. Finally Drinan looks like he could make more of a contribution to this season than he did a year ago.
Therefore I don't think are problems are with the strikers. It is the midfielders that need to chip in with more goals and assists, From early preseason and some comments made by players it seems that we have been working on patterns of play and movement and if so then this might help the midfield to be more effective. Last year in League you could see teams with players with less technical ability that had good patterns of play probably drummed in to them from training but we seemed to have none of this. Indeed, I would say that our passing and movement in midfield for several seasons now suggests that this is not an area that has been worked upon for some time under more than one manager and to our detriment. |
Do we ever look abroad for players , our scouting system looks very limited . | | | |
| Centre Forwards on 23:15 - Aug 26 with 2178 views | Terry_Nutkins |
| Centre Forwards on 21:15 - Aug 26 by hadleighboyblue |
Do we ever look abroad for players , our scouting system looks very limited . |
Get Balint Bajner back in the building. We need a good party. | |
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| Centre Forwards on 23:30 - Aug 26 with 2169 views | Horsham |
| Centre Forwards on 12:01 - Aug 26 by itfcjoe |
It's a massive concern - we are trying to bed in a way of playing that is heavily reliant on a proper number 9 and the 2 players in the squad who can play this role haven't been deemed fit to play a minute of action so far and the season starts in 2 weeks
If we can't get Norwood or Hawkins fit to start the season and are relying on Drinan then we are in big trouble
Jackson doesn't suit the role at all, I wonder what happens with him |
Just don’t see that Lambert is thinking about using Jackson in a wide role up front. Surely it would have been sensible to try in pre-season if he has the intention of playing him wide right. Maybe he will on Saturday.
The trouble is if he doesn’t then only one of Norwood, Jackson and Hawkins can start. Much as I like the notion of the system and the identity etc it doesn’t feel at all pragmatic to limit selection to either one or other of our main scorers especially given the context that we weren’t exactly a prolific scoring team at all last season.
Hope he selects KJ wide on Saturday and he rips it up to put this to bed... |  | | |
| Centre Forwards on 11:29 - Aug 27 with 2090 views | Terry_Nutkins |
| Centre Forwards on 23:30 - Aug 26 by Horsham |
Just don’t see that Lambert is thinking about using Jackson in a wide role up front. Surely it would have been sensible to try in pre-season if he has the intention of playing him wide right. Maybe he will on Saturday.
The trouble is if he doesn’t then only one of Norwood, Jackson and Hawkins can start. Much as I like the notion of the system and the identity etc it doesn’t feel at all pragmatic to limit selection to either one or other of our main scorers especially given the context that we weren’t exactly a prolific scoring team at all last season.
Hope he selects KJ wide on Saturday and he rips it up to put this to bed... |
You can flip this more than one way though. We have a large pool of midfielders and players who can play out wide so playing two up top limits that pool.
I don't really care the system or who plays as long as we perform!
Gives us good striking options off the bench. Will be interesting to see how it unfolds. | |
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| Centre Forwards on 11:48 - Aug 27 with 2079 views | Horsham |
| Centre Forwards on 11:29 - Aug 27 by Terry_Nutkins |
You can flip this more than one way though. We have a large pool of midfielders and players who can play out wide so playing two up top limits that pool.
I don't really care the system or who plays as long as we perform!
Gives us good striking options off the bench. Will be interesting to see how it unfolds. |
Just seems odd to negate one of our few strengths from last season.
it might be the case Jackson flourishes, but we’ve seen little to suggest that Lambert rates him in anything other than a 2 up front, he doesn’t seem to trust him to be the main central striker and has so far chosen to ignore whatever potential he has a wide forward.
The signs so far are not looking good for Jackson and that is a worry. | | | |
| Centre Forwards on 13:00 - Aug 27 with 2063 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Centre Forwards on 21:07 - Aug 25 by JDAndCoke |
I don't disagree about Drinan although he's very inexperienced to throw in to a promotion chasing team from the off. Not saying he can't hack it as you need to be given a chance to prove yourself and in pre season he's done himself no harm but I've also seen plenty of players look like world beaters in pre season to fade away in a 46 game campaign (Danny Rowe last year as an example) |
I think you're mostly right, but we have a fairly easy starting few fixtures(especially if Wigan field a youth team as suspected) and i think Drinan could do the business whilst we wait for Jackson and Hawkins to get up to speed. I can see him going out on loan to another L1 team in the second half of the season though. |  |
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