| My main issues with a PRP team 16:59 - Sep 13 with 7218 views | Bluefish |
The thing that had been here throughout has been the ability to connect the lines, moving from defence to midfield to attack in a seamless way. His sides have always been happy keeping the ball in the midfield line but it doesn't move forward well enough to join the lines to the attack. After today this is still apparent for a couple of reasons.
The target man making it stick - i missed most of the 1st half today getting back from my son's match so hard to comment on Drinan today but in the BR game he was also guilty of this. Norwood is a funny one, he is a sh*thouse type striker but he wants to roam. This means he is often found wide when we need someone in the middle to make the ball stick and then feed in the runners on either side. If the play isn't central we lose options to stretch teams, it is easier to contain teams if they can't switch and link left and right through the central player.
The dynamic links - judge and sears are tidy footballers but they are not dynamic players that cross those positional lines unexpectedly at the blink of an eye. They are both players to put a foot on the ball and look to keep possession. For me we need players that we drop a shoulder and be gone, Bishop does this so well without a great deal of pace but that unit should all do it. I would like to see us abandon the safe today judge and sears and make our unit 3 from dobra Bishop el mizouni and lankester. |  |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:17 - Sep 14 with 2087 views | itfcjoe |
I think you should try and watch back the first half as Drinan put in a good CFs performance and is doing all that is asked of him and more.
We are still learning as a team, hat in itself isn't good enough after so long, but we are where we are - it just involves the manager having far less rope to ply with and needing to get it right quicker.
But across the 3 games there have been plenty of positive passages of play that have resulted in good chances being created - the patterns of play and speed of thought/play is something that was desperately lacking. We've put together more good team moves that have resulted in chances and goals this season than we did probably from January to March in the dog days of last season.
I think lambert has got a lot right with selection this season - Judge still frustrates at times but has been creative, Sears is very intelligent in that role coming off the flank. I think long term Edwards will take over from Judge because he can go backwards and forwards well, especially when it is Chambers and not KVY behind him |  |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:28 - Sep 14 with 2058 views | itfcjoe |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 13:09 - Sep 14 by textbackup |
Norwoods touch really is poor, and that isn’t down to not playing for a while.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Hawkins given a go at leading the line. |
That miscontrol when it came to him just outside the D just struck me as a player that isn't fit enough - and there is only one person to blame for that for not working hard enough and doing the right things | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:29 - Sep 14 with 2048 views | gordon |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 12:53 - Sep 14 by BrixtonBlue |
Incredible irony here. You're happy for Blubbers to have his opinion, but not Terry. If you put an opinion out there you must accept some people will question it, and the motives for it. That's also part of a football forum. |
The OP was a reasonable post about football/tactics/players etc. on a football forum, and received the response: "Your continued drive just to write negative anti Lambert stuff is ridiculous and childish blubbers."
I think the current position we find ourselves in with regard to current playing staff & tactical options interesting, there's lots of different options/approaches/tactics we could use (which perhaps was part of our downfall last year) and we could quite easily finish anywhere between 1st and about 14th, and I'm genuinely interested in hearing discussion about what we should do, what might happen etc. As such I don't like it when people try and discredit valid perspectives/opinions. |  | | |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:30 - Sep 14 with 2044 views | Bluefish |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 13:59 - Sep 14 by Herbivore |
I probably wouldn't give him as long as you, given that for me he's been here at least 6 months too long now (arguably more like 9 months). My worry is that it's well and good saying the right things in an interview about mistakes you've made, and Lambert has generally been good at interviews, but really a decent manager should have seen where he was going wrong at the time and addressed it then. Last season was unacceptable and it was evident where many of our problems were but the manager was unwilling or unable to change things. That concerns me. I think it takes a lot of faith to think that he'd now be able to spot problems and make changes as and when they arise based on what we've seen of him as a manager thus far. Let's hope he proves me wrong. |
A rookie manager learning the ropes deserves time to learn from mistakes, the most expensive in the division has to get it right straight away | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:35 - Sep 14 with 2026 views | Herbivore |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:17 - Sep 14 by itfcjoe |
I think you should try and watch back the first half as Drinan put in a good CFs performance and is doing all that is asked of him and more.
We are still learning as a team, hat in itself isn't good enough after so long, but we are where we are - it just involves the manager having far less rope to ply with and needing to get it right quicker.
But across the 3 games there have been plenty of positive passages of play that have resulted in good chances being created - the patterns of play and speed of thought/play is something that was desperately lacking. We've put together more good team moves that have resulted in chances and goals this season than we did probably from January to March in the dog days of last season.
I think lambert has got a lot right with selection this season - Judge still frustrates at times but has been creative, Sears is very intelligent in that role coming off the flank. I think long term Edwards will take over from Judge because he can go backwards and forwards well, especially when it is Chambers and not KVY behind him |
Sunday was my first look at Drinan and I thought he was very impressive. Great discipline and intelligence in how he played the role of lone striker and some very tidy link gp play. He could do with a goal and would have had one if Sears had looked up (not that I mind Sears being selfish and going for goal there, he got a brace last weekend). There's a huge question mark over whether he's good enough to play regularly at this level but he loos the best fit for the system at the moment.
However, questions over whether he can get the goals mean they need to come from elsewhere and for me that means Judge dropping out for Jackson or Edwards. Both offer a goal threat in behind and can get up and down well. Judge is neat and tidy enough but I don't see him as a wide forward and he still drifts too much positionally as well as drifting in and out of the game.
Even though Sears wasn't on his A game, he linked up really well with Ward and we threatened so much more down that side than we did on the opposite flank. That's because Sears plays the wide forward role well, he knows when to stay wide, when to come inside, when to drop off, and when to go in behind. He helps link our attacking play whilst also getting chances. We need someone else playing on the opposite side that can do the same or close to it and Judge isn't that man. He should be coming on at 70 minutes when Bish needs replacing. |  |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:38 - Sep 14 with 2015 views | Herbivore |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:29 - Sep 14 by gordon |
The OP was a reasonable post about football/tactics/players etc. on a football forum, and received the response: "Your continued drive just to write negative anti Lambert stuff is ridiculous and childish blubbers."
I think the current position we find ourselves in with regard to current playing staff & tactical options interesting, there's lots of different options/approaches/tactics we could use (which perhaps was part of our downfall last year) and we could quite easily finish anywhere between 1st and about 14th, and I'm genuinely interested in hearing discussion about what we should do, what might happen etc. As such I don't like it when people try and discredit valid perspectives/opinions. |
Unfortunately Terry has shown far more inclination to shut down than to engage in debate lately. He called for no criticism of Lambert for 10 games not long ago and refused to engage with me earlier after I'd made a perfectly reasonable post. It's a shame really as he clearly has views but it seems he doesn't want to really debate them to any great extent. | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:41 - Sep 14 with 2000 views | haynes_toe1 |
Sorry, but rather than type all again thought i'd copy and paste relevant bits I posted on another thread:
I think we can all be pleased we won. I think we can also be pleased we kept a clean sheet. I also think we had a 20 minute spell where our midfielders looked a class above what Wigan had to offer.
The concerns for me generally were:
- This is a makeshift Wigan side favourite for relegation. They could surprise a few or they could finish bottom
- Our clean sheet wasn't down to good defending but instead poor finishing from inexperienced young players.
- We started poorly and really should have been losing instead of winning after 20 minutes.
- Having a good spell up until half time after that it was disappointing to see how disjointed and lacking in ideas we were in the second half. At one point this makeshift Wigan side in turmoil had 80% possession. We had lost control of the game, but Wigan didn't have enough to take advantage.
Despite all those negatives we done enough to win the game and have to hope we would step up against the better opposition in this league. However, after 2 years of Lambert in charge I can't say this performance really brings about much confidence for me. It showed that we have individual quality but doesn't show that Lambert has really progressed us as a team. |  | | |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:49 - Sep 14 with 1989 views | itfcjoe |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:35 - Sep 14 by Herbivore |
Sunday was my first look at Drinan and I thought he was very impressive. Great discipline and intelligence in how he played the role of lone striker and some very tidy link gp play. He could do with a goal and would have had one if Sears had looked up (not that I mind Sears being selfish and going for goal there, he got a brace last weekend). There's a huge question mark over whether he's good enough to play regularly at this level but he loos the best fit for the system at the moment.
However, questions over whether he can get the goals mean they need to come from elsewhere and for me that means Judge dropping out for Jackson or Edwards. Both offer a goal threat in behind and can get up and down well. Judge is neat and tidy enough but I don't see him as a wide forward and he still drifts too much positionally as well as drifting in and out of the game.
Even though Sears wasn't on his A game, he linked up really well with Ward and we threatened so much more down that side than we did on the opposite flank. That's because Sears plays the wide forward role well, he knows when to stay wide, when to come inside, when to drop off, and when to go in behind. He helps link our attacking play whilst also getting chances. We need someone else playing on the opposite side that can do the same or close to it and Judge isn't that man. He should be coming on at 70 minutes when Bish needs replacing. |
Yep, I think realistically Sears is nailing down that left hand role and forming a good partnership with Ward - when KVY is back then Judge may be a better fit as KVY can patrol the whole right flank and allow Judge the freedom to drift. Yesterday we had to get Edwards on because Judge was giving Chambers no protection at all on that side and they were overloading it with a tactical tweak.
I just watched back the 6 minute highlights the club tweeted, and there is some lovely football played - the chance where Sears should square starts from Toto and Chambers, the chance where Bishop hits the post starts from a very nice flick from Chambers that just takes 2 people out, quick thinking from Ward for the first goal, nice hold up play by Norwood for Edwards late chance, Judge drifiting to find pocket of space for 2nd goal.
All those things were missing last year, we looked so blunt in attack and had so few partnerships on the field - the squad is good enough to cope with what is being asked.
We looked shaky from set pieces, other than that Wigan had nothing - but realistically we had 3 of our first choice defence out (KVY and Woolfie) or playing out of position (Chambers)
Drinan has been the find of the season so far, and I think Norwood will come good in that role - but missing pre season been very frustrating.
Our midfield hasn't got enough goals for seasons at a time, but this is the first time since probably Jewell was in charge that you've seen them constantly getting into the box and on the end of chances | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 15:01 - Sep 14 with 1968 views | Terry_Nutkins |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:29 - Sep 14 by gordon |
The OP was a reasonable post about football/tactics/players etc. on a football forum, and received the response: "Your continued drive just to write negative anti Lambert stuff is ridiculous and childish blubbers."
I think the current position we find ourselves in with regard to current playing staff & tactical options interesting, there's lots of different options/approaches/tactics we could use (which perhaps was part of our downfall last year) and we could quite easily finish anywhere between 1st and about 14th, and I'm genuinely interested in hearing discussion about what we should do, what might happen etc. As such I don't like it when people try and discredit valid perspectives/opinions. |
Hang on a minute....you can't take that quote out in isolation or yes it's completely harsh! This is typical stuff that's going on at the minute. I literally immediately went on to say however he makes some decent points and I actually agreed with some of what he said then and in his later post! Surely that is being reasonable.
I much prefer it as I say when Bluefish puts some reasonable debate forward then what I consider to be the childish 'Lambert out'.
I'm not sure Bluefish took exception to this even..maybe but I replied to someone else on this thread again agreeing some of the stuff he said was very reasonable [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 15:04]
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 15:10 - Sep 14 with 1952 views | Terry_Nutkins |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:49 - Sep 14 by itfcjoe |
Yep, I think realistically Sears is nailing down that left hand role and forming a good partnership with Ward - when KVY is back then Judge may be a better fit as KVY can patrol the whole right flank and allow Judge the freedom to drift. Yesterday we had to get Edwards on because Judge was giving Chambers no protection at all on that side and they were overloading it with a tactical tweak.
I just watched back the 6 minute highlights the club tweeted, and there is some lovely football played - the chance where Sears should square starts from Toto and Chambers, the chance where Bishop hits the post starts from a very nice flick from Chambers that just takes 2 people out, quick thinking from Ward for the first goal, nice hold up play by Norwood for Edwards late chance, Judge drifiting to find pocket of space for 2nd goal.
All those things were missing last year, we looked so blunt in attack and had so few partnerships on the field - the squad is good enough to cope with what is being asked.
We looked shaky from set pieces, other than that Wigan had nothing - but realistically we had 3 of our first choice defence out (KVY and Woolfie) or playing out of position (Chambers)
Drinan has been the find of the season so far, and I think Norwood will come good in that role - but missing pre season been very frustrating.
Our midfield hasn't got enough goals for seasons at a time, but this is the first time since probably Jewell was in charge that you've seen them constantly getting into the box and on the end of chances |
I think plenty have said it but KVY really changes our dynamic. He will be such an asset this season. He's a full back that can actually pin a team back with the threat he carries.
*Edit - if we can get him back fit!! [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 15:13]
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 15:21 - Sep 14 with 1936 views | BrixtonBlue |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 13:06 - Sep 14 by LankHenners |
I mean... |
Am I missing something? I'm just offering my opinion, same as everyone else. My opinion is we looked alright for the first game back in 6 months and I'm baffled at people finding issues already. 10 games in we'll have more of an idea.
Sorry if this opinion doesn't chime with some. |  |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 15:27 - Sep 14 with 1927 views | LankHenners |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 15:21 - Sep 14 by BrixtonBlue |
Am I missing something? I'm just offering my opinion, same as everyone else. My opinion is we looked alright for the first game back in 6 months and I'm baffled at people finding issues already. 10 games in we'll have more of an idea.
Sorry if this opinion doesn't chime with some. |
Well you say that everyone has opinions which are different and should be respected, fair enough, but then spend time individually replying to lots of people with different opinions to you calling them out for 'moaning' etc. and even started a new thread yesterday making the same complaint.
I'm far from the only one to observe your words often conflict with your actions on the matter of letting people have their opinions in peace. [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 15:57]
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 15:55 - Sep 14 with 1902 views | BrixtonBlue |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 14:29 - Sep 14 by gordon |
The OP was a reasonable post about football/tactics/players etc. on a football forum, and received the response: "Your continued drive just to write negative anti Lambert stuff is ridiculous and childish blubbers."
I think the current position we find ourselves in with regard to current playing staff & tactical options interesting, there's lots of different options/approaches/tactics we could use (which perhaps was part of our downfall last year) and we could quite easily finish anywhere between 1st and about 14th, and I'm genuinely interested in hearing discussion about what we should do, what might happen etc. As such I don't like it when people try and discredit valid perspectives/opinions. |
If we were taking that post in isolation you'd have a point. | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 16:04 - Sep 14 with 1871 views | BrixtonBlue |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 15:27 - Sep 14 by LankHenners |
Well you say that everyone has opinions which are different and should be respected, fair enough, but then spend time individually replying to lots of people with different opinions to you calling them out for 'moaning' etc. and even started a new thread yesterday making the same complaint.
I'm far from the only one to observe your words often conflict with your actions on the matter of letting people have their opinions in peace. [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 15:57]
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I'm all for opinions - but I'm all for challenging them too. Suggesting some people are just moaning - or as SomethingBlue put it "straining to find fault" - is also an opinion.
The new thread I started has +12 on the arrows last time I looked, so I'm clearly not the only one who feels this way.
Incredible that you say we should be "letting people have their opinions in peace" - basically, any opinions you agree with you don't want challenged! | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 16:23 - Sep 14 with 1843 views | LankHenners |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 16:04 - Sep 14 by BrixtonBlue |
I'm all for opinions - but I'm all for challenging them too. Suggesting some people are just moaning - or as SomethingBlue put it "straining to find fault" - is also an opinion.
The new thread I started has +12 on the arrows last time I looked, so I'm clearly not the only one who feels this way.
Incredible that you say we should be "letting people have their opinions in peace" - basically, any opinions you agree with you don't want challenged! |
You said earlier that 'you must accept' that putting your opinion forward will result in someone disagreeing with it, having started a thread yesterday (after several posts across other threads) complaining people who disagreed with you (not even directly) in the mildest way were moaning and should get behind the team.
Just a bit of amusing irony. I think it's pretty clear I meant people should be able to say, for example, 'I don't think Judge should be starting out wide', without someone flying off the handle and demanding they stop 'looking for negatives' or whatever. | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 16:33 - Sep 14 with 1827 views | gordon |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 15:55 - Sep 14 by BrixtonBlue |
If we were taking that post in isolation you'd have a point. |
That's my point exactly - wouldn't it be better to just reply to a post on it's merits? | | | |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 17:12 - Sep 14 with 1789 views | Terry_Nutkins |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 16:33 - Sep 14 by gordon |
That's my point exactly - wouldn't it be better to just reply to a post on it's merits? |
This is true. I think we are all guilty of knowing people's leanings/ opinions and some more than others push an agenda constantly. I do agree we should reply to a post on its merits (tough as it can be at times)
For my side I went into this convo to do that as I thought Blubbers (and I'm using that affectionately - will stop if requested) made some reasonable observations. Maybe I should have left the bit about the childishness etc at the door. I'll take that back. :)
The requests for less of the campaign (cease fire) stands though. But it is just that, a request. See how we go. [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 17:19]
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 17:20 - Sep 14 with 1778 views | clive_baker |
The timing of this observation surprises me, given yesterday was about as encouraging a performance in this regard as I've seen in a long long time. Since well before lockdown. Admittedly missing most of the first half is perhaps why, as we looked a little disjointed in the 2nd.
Drinan did well I thought, the ball stuck with him by and large and he brought others into the game. Some smart running from him and on another day could've been rewarded with a goal. It's early days of course and huge ask to take it on from what we've seen, to being a 15 - 20 goal a season, 40+ starts forward at this level. It's the likes of Hull & Charlton away that'll separate men from boys, but so far so good against very mediocre opposition. The quicker we can get Norwood fit to lighten that load the better. He caused problems in 45 minutes yesterday despite being evidently way off the pace fitness wise.
In terms of breaking the lines from midfield, we did as much of that yesterday as I've seen in ages. Bishop is massive in there as the creator, quick feet and that instinct to drop the shoulder, beat a man and carry the ball which we desperately lack in his absence. Nolan I thought did really well, he's a tidy player and the speed at which he uses the ball creates space for those around him and keeps us on the move. My real frustration last season was how slow and pedestrian we were in the midfield, with next to no movement. Ultimately we were so so easy to telegraph and play against, which wasn't the case yesterday, we were definitely far more dynamic. Dozzell is exceptional at finding and using that space, with his ability to find a pass. His ball out to Sears was lovely, which saw our best piece of play, with Judge's back heel and Sears testing the keeper.
I really thought Judge and Sears worked their b0llocks off yesterday and were incredibly disciplined out in those wide areas. When you've got the creativity centrally of Dozzell and Bishop, what you want in your wide men is for them to find that space and have that bit of quality when they get into the right areas. I thought they did that and on another day we could've had 4 goals off the work of those 2. Huge question marks about the quality of the opposition, but a really mature & well disciplined performance from both I thought. They will need to add goals this season though and that remains a question mark for Judge. If they're going to play in that role they need to chip in semi regularly, which I can see Sears doing. Judge is neat and tidy, with good delivery and work rate, but it's been a while since he's a 10 goal a season man.
Unsung for me was Ward. What a difference it makes to have a competent full back who can defend, retain our shape positionally but also look after the ball and get forward which is more important than ever in a 4-3-3. He's a very very good footballer, and a significant step up on Garbutt who frankly, was utterly sh1t defensively. So many of our issues last season stemmed from our full backs and pedestrian central midfield, all of which were significantly better yesterday. Keen to see KVY get back to fitness because he's a hell of a player too and the pair of them will be vital.
Not perfect by any means, but we shouldn't let perfection be the enemy of progress. Given the circumstances it's a nice base off which to build, and a good start to the season. |  |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 17:34 - Sep 14 with 1765 views | BrixtonBlue |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 16:23 - Sep 14 by LankHenners |
You said earlier that 'you must accept' that putting your opinion forward will result in someone disagreeing with it, having started a thread yesterday (after several posts across other threads) complaining people who disagreed with you (not even directly) in the mildest way were moaning and should get behind the team.
Just a bit of amusing irony. I think it's pretty clear I meant people should be able to say, for example, 'I don't think Judge should be starting out wide', without someone flying off the handle and demanding they stop 'looking for negatives' or whatever. |
Maybe you've misunderstood me (or I haven't explained myself very well - highly likely!)
I just came on here and thought it a bit churlish of people to be complaining about conceding chances/not scoring more and expecting something nearer to perfection already - after a 2-0 win, following such a long lay off, when we had several players out, had chances on target/hit the post, not to mention the goals.
Just seemed a bit weird to me - and seemed to be coming from the Lambert-outers (as SB said, like they were straining to find fault).
I thought some of it was overly critical, and it seems a fair few agree with me.
But in terms of individual comments like 'I don't think Judge should be starting out wide', no, I haven't got a problem with those.
If Lambert is to turn it around, it won't happen in the first game (or fail in the first game). We won't know for about 10 games IMO. That's why I thought stuff was a bit OTT after one game. | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 17:36 - Sep 14 with 1762 views | BrixtonBlue |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 16:33 - Sep 14 by gordon |
That's my point exactly - wouldn't it be better to just reply to a post on it's merits? |
Perhaps. But I think you need to take a poster's history into account as well. People at the extremes of Lambert in/out will have an agenda, however balanced they try to be. | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 18:12 - Sep 14 with 1737 views | Bluefish |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 17:36 - Sep 14 by BrixtonBlue |
Perhaps. But I think you need to take a poster's history into account as well. People at the extremes of Lambert in/out will have an agenda, however balanced they try to be. |
Where do you view your own history? | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 18:22 - Sep 14 with 1730 views | BrixtonBlue |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 18:12 - Sep 14 by Bluefish |
Where do you view your own history? |
I like to think I'm fairly even-handed.
I've said it before, I'm not a Lambert-inner. I'm just not particularly a Lambert-outer either just yet. He's clearly staying for now, so I'm prepared to give hime the first 10 games, see if he's learnt from his mistakes as he says he has, and take it from there. I guess I'm just not one for chopping and changing managers as readily as others. I think some on here are a bit kneejerk and this basketcase of a club needs longer to turn it around.
i wouldn't be remotely upset if Lambert were sacked tomorrow. And I've said several times I'd happily see Burley back, or Dyer in. They're something I agree with Herbs on (and is the reason I have Burley as my avatar, and have done since before Hurst in actual fact).
I'd like to bury the hatchet with you actually (and Herbs). At the end of the day, we all want what's best for ITFC. | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 18:23 - Sep 14 with 1727 views | Bluefish |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 18:22 - Sep 14 by BrixtonBlue |
I like to think I'm fairly even-handed.
I've said it before, I'm not a Lambert-inner. I'm just not particularly a Lambert-outer either just yet. He's clearly staying for now, so I'm prepared to give hime the first 10 games, see if he's learnt from his mistakes as he says he has, and take it from there. I guess I'm just not one for chopping and changing managers as readily as others. I think some on here are a bit kneejerk and this basketcase of a club needs longer to turn it around.
i wouldn't be remotely upset if Lambert were sacked tomorrow. And I've said several times I'd happily see Burley back, or Dyer in. They're something I agree with Herbs on (and is the reason I have Burley as my avatar, and have done since before Hurst in actual fact).
I'd like to bury the hatchet with you actually (and Herbs). At the end of the day, we all want what's best for ITFC. |
The gift that keeps on giving
Just read the last paragraph. Fine by me [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 18:24]
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 18:25 - Sep 14 with 1720 views | BrixtonBlue |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 18:23 - Sep 14 by Bluefish |
The gift that keeps on giving
Just read the last paragraph. Fine by me [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 18:24]
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See, why do you have to post that first line? What does it even mean anyway? What have I said wrong here, I genuinely have no idea? | |
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| My main issues with a PRP team on 18:32 - Sep 14 with 1714 views | Bluefish |
| My main issues with a PRP team on 18:25 - Sep 14 by BrixtonBlue |
See, why do you have to post that first line? What does it even mean anyway? What have I said wrong here, I genuinely have no idea? |
It was the complete lack of self awareness that you jump on every remotely against PRP meaning you might well have you own history and baggage. At least I admit I am one end of the spectrum , you think you are the middle which is hilarious. Hence the gift that keeps on giving | |
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