Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. 12:17 - Sep 14 with 1985 views | Coco | lol. soz. Thankfully i didn't have anything more embarrassing on my clipboard. -what it should have read. He will majestic this season and then f off for pastures new. The Rolls Royce engine appears to have been properly serviced at last! [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 12:33]
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 12:21 - Sep 14 with 1930 views | Superblue95 | Why? Is he leaving us to become an Amazon Echo Plus salesman? | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 12:53 - Sep 14 with 1791 views | Bluefish | I've been saying this a while, it is not a good situation here. He needs to sign a new contract ASAP or he can talk to clubs in a couple of months and we will lose him. I just hope PRP can convince him that he does trust young players after all | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:17 - Sep 14 with 1583 views | Coco |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 12:53 - Sep 14 by Bluefish | I've been saying this a while, it is not a good situation here. He needs to sign a new contract ASAP or he can talk to clubs in a couple of months and we will lose him. I just hope PRP can convince him that he does trust young players after all |
I fear the damage is done. | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:30 - Sep 14 with 1515 views | Bluefish |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:17 - Sep 14 by Coco | I fear the damage is done. |
Me too. He is the equivalent of a loan player | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:31 - Sep 14 with 1515 views | itfcjoe |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:30 - Sep 14 by Bluefish | Me too. He is the equivalent of a loan player |
If he starts every game, and has a non-promotion release clause in it then think he'll sign one - he wants to play and succeed here | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:34 - Sep 14 with 1491 views | Fixed_It |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:31 - Sep 14 by itfcjoe | If he starts every game, and has a non-promotion release clause in it then think he'll sign one - he wants to play and succeed here |
Good point about a clause. This SHOULD be his season to shine. | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:34 - Sep 14 with 1492 views | Bluefish |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:31 - Sep 14 by itfcjoe | If he starts every game, and has a non-promotion release clause in it then think he'll sign one - he wants to play and succeed here |
The issue is he will want to start every game for a few months to be certain, by that time he is free to speak to other clubs and receive offers. If he plays well he gets a bigger move, if he plays badly he will be out the side and want to go anyway. It is not a good situation. He should have gone out on loan in the Hurst summer | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:36 - Sep 14 with 1478 views | clive_baker | Not so sure about that. A few months is a long time in football, if we're looking strong and he's starting games in his preferred position as appears to be Lambert's thinking, then I think a new contract would be an attractive proposition. If he wants to be a regular starter for a Championship club next season, then I would argue his best chance of achieving that might be staying put and tearing it up for the next 7 months. If we have a season anything like last year and we finish 11th with him not playing then fair play to him, move on and do it somewhere else. | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:41 - Sep 14 with 1442 views | Bluefish |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:36 - Sep 14 by clive_baker | Not so sure about that. A few months is a long time in football, if we're looking strong and he's starting games in his preferred position as appears to be Lambert's thinking, then I think a new contract would be an attractive proposition. If he wants to be a regular starter for a Championship club next season, then I would argue his best chance of achieving that might be staying put and tearing it up for the next 7 months. If we have a season anything like last year and we finish 11th with him not playing then fair play to him, move on and do it somewhere else. |
Tear it up for 7 months and the offers will flood in to take him away and pay far more than we can [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 14:42]
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:56 - Sep 14 with 1388 views | StokieBlue |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:41 - Sep 14 by Bluefish | Tear it up for 7 months and the offers will flood in to take him away and pay far more than we can [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 14:42]
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If he "tears it up" for 7 months then we will likely be in a strong position to get promoted and then the salary cap is no longer relevant and we should be able to compete on wages. You can't take into account only half the equation at that point. SB | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:57 - Sep 14 with 1380 views | Metal_Hacker |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:41 - Sep 14 by Bluefish | Tear it up for 7 months and the offers will flood in to take him away and pay far more than we can [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 14:42]
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Same with any player | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:59 - Sep 14 with 1365 views | Bluefish |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:57 - Sep 14 by Metal_Hacker | Same with any player |
Err no not really. Most players don't have a wonderful pedigree before they have established themselves a role and are in the final year of their deal. Yes they can still leave like flynn but we would have slightly more say in it and at least recoup a fee related to the performance levels | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 15:00 - Sep 14 with 1358 views | Metal_Hacker |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:59 - Sep 14 by Bluefish | Err no not really. Most players don't have a wonderful pedigree before they have established themselves a role and are in the final year of their deal. Yes they can still leave like flynn but we would have slightly more say in it and at least recoup a fee related to the performance levels |
Point being , any player that "rips it up" are always and will always be at risk of going | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 15:00 - Sep 14 with 1353 views | Bluefish |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:56 - Sep 14 by StokieBlue | If he "tears it up" for 7 months then we will likely be in a strong position to get promoted and then the salary cap is no longer relevant and we should be able to compete on wages. You can't take into account only half the equation at that point. SB |
But our offer on the table won't know that, other clubs can guarantee that We are relying hugely on his roots because money is going to be on offer elsewhere | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 15:07 - Sep 14 with 1326 views | StokieBlue |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 15:00 - Sep 14 by Bluefish | But our offer on the table won't know that, other clubs can guarantee that We are relying hugely on his roots because money is going to be on offer elsewhere |
You said 7 months in your response (although not initially), that's almost May, the season will be almost completed and we will know what division we are in - especially if he's "tearing it up". There is of course a risk of losing him but there is nothing we can do about that. He didn't merit a place last season given his performances but if he is playing regularly and there is a chance of promotion then he may decide actually playing is more important. He could still wait and see before deciding his future. I am not sure how sending him out on load last season or even the season before changes any of the parameters in the equation. We simply don't know. SB [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 15:23]
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 15:13 - Sep 14 with 1290 views | Bluefish |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 15:07 - Sep 14 by StokieBlue | You said 7 months in your response (although not initially), that's almost May, the season will be almost completed and we will know what division we are in - especially if he's "tearing it up". There is of course a risk of losing him but there is nothing we can do about that. He didn't merit a place last season given his performances but if he is playing regularly and there is a chance of promotion then he may decide actually playing is more important. He could still wait and see before deciding his future. I am not sure how sending him out on load last season or even the season before changes any of the parameters in the equation. We simply don't know. SB [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 15:23]
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Umm I didnt start the thread and I didn't start the 7 months Enjoy your whinge and moan though | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 15:22 - Sep 14 with 1246 views | StokieBlue |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 15:13 - Sep 14 by Bluefish | Umm I didnt start the thread and I didn't start the 7 months Enjoy your whinge and moan though |
Indeed you didn't, my mistake and edited accordingly. The general points still stand though. It's simply too early to speculate on what might happen, lets wait 2 months and see how he is playing before it's worth worrying about. SB [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 15:24]
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 15:28 - Sep 14 with 1199 views | clive_baker |
Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 14:41 - Sep 14 by Bluefish | Tear it up for 7 months and the offers will flood in to take him away and pay far more than we can [Post edited 14 Sep 2020 14:42]
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It's not all about money, I'm sure if we look like we're heading up we'll be in a position to offer him something compelling. It's not an ideal situation to let any player go into their final year of contract, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility that he's playing for us next season. Obviously that's less likely if we're still in L1 and he's attracting the attention of suitors higher up the pyramid. | |
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Enjoy Dozzell this season guys and gals. on 15:54 - Sep 14 with 1072 views | IpswichKnight | Interesting thought here, what happens if he indicates in January that he's not going to sign a new contract, should we then continue to play him? | | | |
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