| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 23:12 - Sep 20 with 2176 views | Plums |
Some commentators suggesting what is ‘wrong’ is the time being reported; 2pm instead of 3pm. Certainly very fishy. |  |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 06:46 - Sep 21 with 2006 views | TractorWood |
Remarkable. Obviously visiting that Russian guy.
Downing Street will deny and hope it goes away. |  |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 07:17 - Sep 21 with 1969 views | Keno |
not another eye test |  |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 07:20 - Sep 21 with 1962 views | factual_blue |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 07:17 - Sep 21 by Keno |
not another eye test |
Going to Perugia for an eye test?
That's way pasta joke. |  |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 07:33 - Sep 21 with 1942 views | Plums |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 07:20 - Sep 21 by factual_blue |
Going to Perugia for an eye test?
That's way pasta joke. |
It took me a while to see what you’ve done there but then the penne dropped | |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 07:37 - Sep 21 with 1931 views | DanTheMan |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 07:17 - Sep 21 by Keno |
not another eye test |
No can't be, he'd need to be flying the plane for that. |  |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 08:30 - Sep 21 with 1831 views | GeoffSentence |
So what?
He went on a long weekend to Italy. Who gives a sh1t? |  |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 08:33 - Sep 21 with 1820 views | lowhouseblue |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 08:30 - Sep 21 by GeoffSentence |
So what?
He went on a long weekend to Italy. Who gives a sh1t? |
plus it seems to be fake news |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 08:37 - Sep 21 with 1806 views | GeoffSentence |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 08:33 - Sep 21 by lowhouseblue |
plus it seems to be fake news |
It is odd fake news because it just does not matter.
There's loads of stuff he should be taking cr@p for, not this. | |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:05 - Sep 21 with 1693 views | Guthrum |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 08:30 - Sep 21 by GeoffSentence |
So what?
He went on a long weekend to Italy. Who gives a sh1t? |
Politicians often get flak for taking holidays during crises. In this case doubled by the Government having imposed travel restrictions on a significant number of people. Plus Johnson's reputation for not being very conscientious at the best of times.
Whether that's a reasonable criticism is a different matter. People in responsible positions need to take breaks sometimes, too. |  |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:18 - Sep 21 with 1653 views | factual_blue |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 08:30 - Sep 21 by GeoffSentence |
So what?
He went on a long weekend to Italy. Who gives a sh1t? |
Your final sentence perfectly summarises our PM's attitude to the people of this country. | |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:26 - Sep 21 with 1619 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 08:30 - Sep 21 by GeoffSentence |
So what?
He went on a long weekend to Italy. Who gives a sh1t? |
It's only relevant in the context of whatever's going on with his Russian links and all that business with the Russian Report. And I guess we'll never find out the half of it. |  |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:31 - Sep 21 with 1593 views | Keno |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:26 - Sep 21 by Swansea_Blue |
It's only relevant in the context of whatever's going on with his Russian links and all that business with the Russian Report. And I guess we'll never find out the half of it. |
I imagine he will refusili to comment | |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:42 - Sep 21 with 1548 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:31 - Sep 21 by Keno |
I imagine he will refusili to comment |
I don't know. He ain't alfredo no questions. | |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:52 - Sep 21 with 1529 views | SouthBucksBlue |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:31 - Sep 21 by Keno |
I imagine he will refusili to comment |
I think this story is a bit fafalle fetched. |  | | |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:56 - Sep 21 with 1509 views | Keno |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:52 - Sep 21 by SouthBucksBlue |
I think this story is a bit fafalle fetched. |
I canna leave it aloni | |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:07 - Sep 21 with 1488 views | monytowbray |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 08:37 - Sep 21 by GeoffSentence |
It is odd fake news because it just does not matter.
There's loads of stuff he should be taking cr@p for, not this. |
One needs to pay more attention to why he bends over to Russian money to understand why it is a big deal.
It matters, a lot. |  |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:15 - Sep 21 with 1472 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:07 - Sep 21 by monytowbray |
One needs to pay more attention to why he bends over to Russian money to understand why it is a big deal.
It matters, a lot. |
There was a flight out of Perugia to Brize Norton on the 14th.
Official UK Govt business.
Peston’s take on it
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:17 - Sep 21 with 1463 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:07 - Sep 21 by monytowbray |
One needs to pay more attention to why he bends over to Russian money to understand why it is a big deal.
It matters, a lot. |
Indeed. Look beyond the headline | | | |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:34 - Sep 21 with 1429 views | monytowbray |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:17 - Sep 21 by ElderGrizzly |
Indeed. Look beyond the headline |
One thing I've really found the press suck with is connecting dots between stories.
The news cycle moves so fast (much to the benefit of those who want things to be forgotten) and these stories come out isolated with no wider context. Part of investigative journalism has become digging this stuff up and piecing together the jigsaw.
This story is yet another part in how Russia has completely undermined western democracy using kompromat methods and thew general greed of politicians/lobbyists/think tanks.
If anything good comes of all the world after the present (and we don't end up falling down a global authoritarian hole) is we need a serious look at the free press and potentially a British constitution.
Our whole political system is based on a handshake and trusting those in charge to do the right thing. This government has realised if they tell us to f*ck off there isn't much we can do about it.
The truth matters a lot, and the current powers don't want us to know what it is. Hence why lying has become the default position. Hypernormalisation. [Post edited 21 Sep 2020 11:35]
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:36 - Sep 21 with 1420 views | BloomBlue |
We are talking Italian newspapers, they recently called Ferrari a competitive F1 team and that Berlusconi has never broken the law |  | | |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:38 - Sep 21 with 1410 views | Dyland |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 10:42 - Sep 21 by Swansea_Blue |
I don't know. He ain't alfredo no questions. |
Is he also not alfredo no ghosts? |  |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:43 - Sep 21 with 1391 views | GeoffSentence |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:34 - Sep 21 by monytowbray |
One thing I've really found the press suck with is connecting dots between stories.
The news cycle moves so fast (much to the benefit of those who want things to be forgotten) and these stories come out isolated with no wider context. Part of investigative journalism has become digging this stuff up and piecing together the jigsaw.
This story is yet another part in how Russia has completely undermined western democracy using kompromat methods and thew general greed of politicians/lobbyists/think tanks.
If anything good comes of all the world after the present (and we don't end up falling down a global authoritarian hole) is we need a serious look at the free press and potentially a British constitution.
Our whole political system is based on a handshake and trusting those in charge to do the right thing. This government has realised if they tell us to f*ck off there isn't much we can do about it.
The truth matters a lot, and the current powers don't want us to know what it is. Hence why lying has become the default position. Hypernormalisation. [Post edited 21 Sep 2020 11:35]
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The trouble is the story as posted provides nothing to confirm that there is any Russian link. It is all wild speculation.
Yes BJ is dodgy as feck.
Yes the Tories are in hoc to Russian billionaires and we know that paid to the Tory party gives influence.
But this story does not advance the case in any way. Basically it says BJ went to Perugia, we bet he went to see his Russian pal. | |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:47 - Sep 21 with 1380 views | monytowbray |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:43 - Sep 21 by GeoffSentence |
The trouble is the story as posted provides nothing to confirm that there is any Russian link. It is all wild speculation.
Yes BJ is dodgy as feck.
Yes the Tories are in hoc to Russian billionaires and we know that paid to the Tory party gives influence.
But this story does not advance the case in any way. Basically it says BJ went to Perugia, we bet he went to see his Russian pal. |
I've found with this lot, if something doesn't add up and there is a clear lie in the narrative from their side, it's usually because it's exactly that.
If Johnson isn't corrupted by Russian money and/or influence, then he's doing a poor job of convincing those researching it otherwise. | |
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| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:58 - Sep 21 with 1349 views | Darth_Koont |
| Johnson’s secret trip to Perugia on 11:34 - Sep 21 by monytowbray |
One thing I've really found the press suck with is connecting dots between stories.
The news cycle moves so fast (much to the benefit of those who want things to be forgotten) and these stories come out isolated with no wider context. Part of investigative journalism has become digging this stuff up and piecing together the jigsaw.
This story is yet another part in how Russia has completely undermined western democracy using kompromat methods and thew general greed of politicians/lobbyists/think tanks.
If anything good comes of all the world after the present (and we don't end up falling down a global authoritarian hole) is we need a serious look at the free press and potentially a British constitution.
Our whole political system is based on a handshake and trusting those in charge to do the right thing. This government has realised if they tell us to f*ck off there isn't much we can do about it.
The truth matters a lot, and the current powers don't want us to know what it is. Hence why lying has become the default position. Hypernormalisation. [Post edited 21 Sep 2020 11:35]
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Our media has little to no interest in connecting dots that threaten power. But they’ll go into overdrive connecting dots to neutralise those who threaten power.
On a related note, our media’s lack of coverage of the Assange extradition case and its implications re: press freedom is utterly scandalous. Until you realise that they don’t see the freedom to speak truth to power as their job. Quite the opposite. |  |
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