These students in Manchester on the news 22:13 - Sep 26 with 7359 views | uefacup81 | Christ. Is this really the resilience of the brightest minds of the next generation?! | |
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(No subject) on 09:02 - Sep 27 with 1405 views | Plums |
(No subject) on 22:36 - Sep 26 by jeera | I must admit that first bit made me smile. I remember being 18 and if there was ever an age you're too stupid to be fazed by much it's then. *no offence to the poster, who is a good sort. [Post edited 26 Sep 2020 22:37]
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I would have been the same but you can’t judge everyone by your own standards. I have worked in universities for many years and one thing that is immediately obvious is the huge range of social capabilities amongst students from the brash and confident, the immature and totally unprepared to those who are genuinely anxious, vulnerable and in need or regular support and intervention to make it through. The latter groups’ need for help has no reflection whatsoever on their educational ability. The media won’t show you those who are just dealing with it (and there’s a lot about dealing on this thread...), it’s a non-story. They’re showing those I described. | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 09:03 - Sep 27 with 1402 views | Plums |
These students in Manchester on the news on 22:53 - Sep 26 by Rob88 | Melt |
Insightful. Thanks for the contribution. | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 09:10 - Sep 27 with 1395 views | BloomBlue | What made me smile is a few weeks ago they were moaning about not getting the grades they wanted and it would ruin their education by stopping them going to university. Now they are at Uni they are all moaning about not being able to go out and socialise and get plssed. If they want to go out and get plssed and not being stuck in an educational building can I suggest taking the other option of a job rather than Uni. | | | |
These students in Manchester on the news on 09:14 - Sep 27 with 1384 views | Plums |
These students in Manchester on the news on 09:10 - Sep 27 by BloomBlue | What made me smile is a few weeks ago they were moaning about not getting the grades they wanted and it would ruin their education by stopping them going to university. Now they are at Uni they are all moaning about not being able to go out and socialise and get plssed. If they want to go out and get plssed and not being stuck in an educational building can I suggest taking the other option of a job rather than Uni. |
A hall of residence is not an educational building and it’s not ‘all’, it’s ‘some’ who are affected, Please try and look behind the headlines a little. | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 09:23 - Sep 27 with 1366 views | MonkeyAlan | Never been told no in their lives. Their parents let them run wild, so do the schools nowadays. Won't hurt them to do as they are told for once to help the country out. | | | |
These students in Manchester on the news on 09:53 - Sep 27 with 1353 views | brazil1982 |
These students in Manchester on the news on 09:14 - Sep 27 by Plums | A hall of residence is not an educational building and it’s not ‘all’, it’s ‘some’ who are affected, Please try and look behind the headlines a little. |
Preventing the leaving is not legal either. | | | |
These students in Manchester on the news on 10:01 - Sep 27 with 1348 views | The_Romford_Blue |
These students in Manchester on the news on 09:23 - Sep 27 by MonkeyAlan | Never been told no in their lives. Their parents let them run wild, so do the schools nowadays. Won't hurt them to do as they are told for once to help the country out. |
You don’t half spout some bollox you | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 10:03 - Sep 27 with 1344 views | pointofblue | In hindsight this should have been obvious - to the government, to the universities and even to the students themselves. Maybe to those paid to actually consider it this should have been so. Again it appears to be financial; get students back so they don’t have to be refunded for lost lessons or the accommodation. I understand the need for balance between economy and health but that shouldn’t mean students should be treated like prisoners just so other quarters get their money. | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 10:36 - Sep 27 with 1323 views | Steve_M |
These students in Manchester on the news on 01:23 - Sep 27 by NewcyBlue | “ First-year Joe Byrne said: "We have had no warning, support or advice from the university about how we get food etc, and instead have been left completely in the dark and practically locked up against our will."” What’s more shocking is your apparent lack of empathy for a bunch of kids who were told it was safe to go to uni and to then effectively become a prisoner. How very Christian of your, I’m sure the old boys at church will enjoy your opinion. If that was one of my kids I would be driving there and taking them home. This has nothing to do with what you call resilience. |
Well, quite. Going to university teaches kids to grow up but by exposing them to people from different backgrounds and places as well as having to live on their own. Getting confined to rooms or small flats before they’ve had a chance to properly meet people isn’t the same thing. I’m surprised at some of those showing so little empathy here, although of course the usual suspects have none. | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 10:50 - Sep 27 with 1312 views | giant_stow |
These students in Manchester on the news on 10:36 - Sep 27 by Steve_M | Well, quite. Going to university teaches kids to grow up but by exposing them to people from different backgrounds and places as well as having to live on their own. Getting confined to rooms or small flats before they’ve had a chance to properly meet people isn’t the same thing. I’m surprised at some of those showing so little empathy here, although of course the usual suspects have none. |
Yes, these students are getting shat on from height and the ones being locked up, particularly so. Disgraceful and reveals the system in all its gory detail. [Post edited 27 Sep 2020 10:58]
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These students in Manchester on the news on 10:55 - Sep 27 with 1305 views | gordon | Sounds like there could be something along the lines of unlawful imprisonment in some of these cases, unless the students signed an agreement consenting to being treated like this:
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These students in Manchester on the news on 11:01 - Sep 27 with 1299 views | giant_stow |
These students in Manchester on the news on 10:55 - Sep 27 by gordon | Sounds like there could be something along the lines of unlawful imprisonment in some of these cases, unless the students signed an agreement consenting to being treated like this:
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Would a contract that allowed that even be legal / enforceable? I don't understand why this even possible in a civilised country. | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 11:05 - Sep 27 with 1290 views | pointofblue |
These students in Manchester on the news on 11:01 - Sep 27 by giant_stow | Would a contract that allowed that even be legal / enforceable? I don't understand why this even possible in a civilised country. |
I assume there could be something in the contract about not displaying posters which could be deemed as political. | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 11:07 - Sep 27 with 1290 views | gordon |
These students in Manchester on the news on 11:01 - Sep 27 by giant_stow | Would a contract that allowed that even be legal / enforceable? I don't understand why this even possible in a civilised country. |
No idea really, but would there's no way that universities have legally enforceable powers to do these sorts of things - those university employed security guards sitting outside buildings would have absolutely no legal power to stop a student walking out of one of those buildings - and if a university tried to throw a student out for e.g. trying to go for a walk around the block to get some fresh air, they would have a rock solid legal case against the university. And it would be far worse for the university if they effectively kidnapped that student and locked them up. All of these powers these universities are supposing to have are all entirely unenforceable, as far as I can see. [Post edited 27 Sep 2020 11:08]
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These students in Manchester on the news on 11:10 - Sep 27 with 1283 views | giant_stow |
These students in Manchester on the news on 11:05 - Sep 27 by pointofblue | I assume there could be something in the contract about not displaying posters which could be deemed as political. |
Weird world when a uni student can't express an opinion, although I'm more worried about them being locked up tbh. | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 11:13 - Sep 27 with 1281 views | pointofblue | What this is doing is increasing the likelihood of generational resentment. To many of the younger generation there is a feeling that the previous generation is now withdrawing many of the benefits that they had - now their education is being restricted and mental health effected for an illness which seemingly (and I don’t think the potential long term effects will be taken into consideration at this point) will not affect many of them beyond possibly a bout of flu like symptoms which will soon pass. The mentality will not be, rightly or wrongly but IMO understandably, protect the vulnerable but instead “why are we being screwed over again?” | |
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innit on 11:23 - Sep 27 with 1276 views | Barneycurley |
innit on 23:52 - Sep 26 by jeera | I know how sad it must sound, but some of the best times of my life have involved sitting about with half a dozen mates round someone's flat in Ipswich, with each of us taking it in turns to skin-up and chat, maybe over a game of Risk or something. Some pizza, plenty of fluids [!] and several packs of biscuits. |
Living the dream | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 11:24 - Sep 27 with 1280 views | NewcyBlue |
These students in Manchester on the news on 10:36 - Sep 27 by Steve_M | Well, quite. Going to university teaches kids to grow up but by exposing them to people from different backgrounds and places as well as having to live on their own. Getting confined to rooms or small flats before they’ve had a chance to properly meet people isn’t the same thing. I’m surprised at some of those showing so little empathy here, although of course the usual suspects have none. |
The OP is the one that made the comment about “having a hard on for antisemitism”. His lack of empathy for others is not a surprise. These kids are going to come out of this with mental scars. They’ve been convinced to move, sometimes quite far from home, on what they thought would be an epic adventure. Sex, drugs, alcohol, freedom, personal growth. What they’ve got is prison. People saying “we’re all suffering because of covid” yeah, you’re really suffering working from home, having a fairly normal life. These kids have paid money for this. | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 11:35 - Sep 27 with 1258 views | gordon |
These students in Manchester on the news on 11:24 - Sep 27 by NewcyBlue | The OP is the one that made the comment about “having a hard on for antisemitism”. His lack of empathy for others is not a surprise. These kids are going to come out of this with mental scars. They’ve been convinced to move, sometimes quite far from home, on what they thought would be an epic adventure. Sex, drugs, alcohol, freedom, personal growth. What they’ve got is prison. People saying “we’re all suffering because of covid” yeah, you’re really suffering working from home, having a fairly normal life. These kids have paid money for this. |
Yup, I'm gobsmacked at some of the jokey responses to what's going on. Universities are quite plainly breaking the law in holding people against their will because they need money. None of them (as far as I'm aware) communicated that this is what they would do to students in the event of outbreaks prior to students agreeing to stay in halls, so they will surely be in breach of their accommodation contract with students and be subject to some pretty interesting legal proceedings following this. | | | |
These students in Manchester on the news on 12:58 - Sep 27 with 1223 views | MonkeyAlan |
These students in Manchester on the news on 10:01 - Sep 27 by The_Romford_Blue | You don’t half spout some bollox you |
True though. | | | |
innit on 14:33 - Sep 27 with 1201 views | jeera |
I doubt you had friends when you were 18. | |
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These students in Manchester on the news on 16:17 - Sep 27 with 1162 views | Plums |
These students in Manchester on the news on 11:35 - Sep 27 by gordon | Yup, I'm gobsmacked at some of the jokey responses to what's going on. Universities are quite plainly breaking the law in holding people against their will because they need money. None of them (as far as I'm aware) communicated that this is what they would do to students in the event of outbreaks prior to students agreeing to stay in halls, so they will surely be in breach of their accommodation contract with students and be subject to some pretty interesting legal proceedings following this. |
A lot of the halls (although not those in the news at MMU) are privately owned and managed and have little or nothing to do with the universities they serve so it will be very interesting to see if their approach differs. | |
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innit! on 17:57 - Sep 27 with 1138 views | Funge |
innit! on 00:02 - Sep 27 by jeera | I can't be bothered to edit it! I don't know how well you know Bury but when I moved there later on, there was a group of us who would sometimes go down into the old monastery tunnels and play Risk all night. There was a way in off Horringer Road. We'd take a ball of string - so not to get lost - and a pack of candles which would be placed along the way on the ledges that were cut out of the chalk walls. Always a good night. |
I love this. Going into a tunnel to play board games and get lean, sounds bloody brilliant. | | | |
These students in Manchester on the news on 18:00 - Sep 27 with 1132 views | Funge |
These students in Manchester on the news on 09:23 - Sep 27 by MonkeyAlan | Never been told no in their lives. Their parents let them run wild, so do the schools nowadays. Won't hurt them to do as they are told for once to help the country out. |
You are a dickhead, and a prick. | | | |
(No subject) on 18:34 - Sep 27 with 1113 views | J2BLUE |
(No subject) on 22:36 - Sep 26 by jeera | I must admit that first bit made me smile. I remember being 18 and if there was ever an age you're too stupid to be fazed by much it's then. *no offence to the poster, who is a good sort. [Post edited 26 Sep 2020 22:37]
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That last line. Increasingly questionable. | |
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