| This winger that Lambert is after then... 09:05 - Sep 28 with 3383 views | TractorBoyOlly |
A) Do we need him?
B) Will we actually sign him before the deadline? |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:07 - Sep 28 with 2664 views | GeoffSentence |
I don't think we need one. Looks like it will choke off Lankester's chance of some first team action if he gets one. I'd say that would be a bad choice. |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:10 - Sep 28 with 2643 views | Bluefish |
If Dobra goes out we definitely do need one, if he stays then we just need to use him. Sears and Judge as steady players, Lankester and Dobra/new guy as dynamic wide players and Gwion to be cover like some sort of excited competition winner |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:16 - Sep 28 with 2617 views | jayessess |
A) From what Lambert's saying it doesn't seem like we're in for a winger to improve the first team, but as someone to fill in so Lankester doesn't have to play 40 games. Which is weird, because Lankester is yet to start a game and Lambert seems perfectly comfortable having Sears, Judge and Edwards fill in. Doubly weird, because if all we're looking for is relief for Lankester then why not Dobra?
B) No idea. |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:25 - Sep 28 with 2571 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
I think we probably do, RW. Lankester can't play 48 games this season, and Edwards is more productive LW in my opinion. Edwards/Sears for LW, Lankester/Another for RW |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:29 - Sep 28 with 2547 views | SomethingBlue |
Yep we do. We need more pace in the side. | |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:47 - Sep 28 with 2494 views | PhilTWTD |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:16 - Sep 28 by jayessess |
A) From what Lambert's saying it doesn't seem like we're in for a winger to improve the first team, but as someone to fill in so Lankester doesn't have to play 40 games. Which is weird, because Lankester is yet to start a game and Lambert seems perfectly comfortable having Sears, Judge and Edwards fill in. Doubly weird, because if all we're looking for is relief for Lankester then why not Dobra?
B) No idea. |
The comments PL made re a winger weren't made in reference to Lankester, just in terms of whether he was looking for anyone else.
He didn't actually mention a winger himself, it was put to him that he had said he was after a winger earlier in the summer, and he just gave a rather vague answer: “As I said before, if we could bring somebody in and somebody does pop up, and it can happen, and the finances were OK, then it's something I would look at.” |  | | |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:50 - Sep 28 with 2457 views | BrixtonBlue |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:47 - Sep 28 by PhilTWTD |
The comments PL made re a winger weren't made in reference to Lankester, just in terms of whether he was looking for anyone else.
He didn't actually mention a winger himself, it was put to him that he had said he was after a winger earlier in the summer, and he just gave a rather vague answer: “As I said before, if we could bring somebody in and somebody does pop up, and it can happen, and the finances were OK, then it's something I would look at.” |
Ha. A rather different take to the OP then! |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:57 - Sep 28 with 2422 views | SamWhiteUK |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:10 - Sep 28 by Bluefish |
If Dobra goes out we definitely do need one, if he stays then we just need to use him. Sears and Judge as steady players, Lankester and Dobra/new guy as dynamic wide players and Gwion to be cover like some sort of excited competition winner |
Do you not think Edwards has been much better this year? |  | | |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:59 - Sep 28 with 2407 views | Bluefish |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:57 - Sep 28 by SamWhiteUK |
Do you not think Edwards has been much better this year? |
Err no. He has scored 2 absolute tap ins but apart from that he offers next to nothing and doesn't look as though he is in tune with the rest of the match. Complete highlights player [Post edited 28 Sep 2020 10:04]
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 10:06 - Sep 28 with 2373 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Definitely don't need another wide player up top, spoilt for choice there now!
A central striker is all that is needed.
Drinan out for a while, Norwood seemingly lost it, Jackson is NOT a central striker, so that only leaves Hawkins. |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 10:10 - Sep 28 with 2365 views | StokieBlue |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:57 - Sep 28 by SamWhiteUK |
Do you not think Edwards has been much better this year? |
You can see the problem with Edwards in one 20 second passage of play on Saturday.
He beat 2 or 3 players on the wing with some truly excellent skill, was clear and running in towards the edge of the area and then literally just passed it to one of their players just inside the box.
Some brilliant moments with very little end product.
He's scored a few and will score a few more but his main job is to provide and he just can't do that regularly.
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:19 - Sep 28 with 2181 views | BrixtonBlue |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 10:10 - Sep 28 by StokieBlue |
You can see the problem with Edwards in one 20 second passage of play on Saturday.
He beat 2 or 3 players on the wing with some truly excellent skill, was clear and running in towards the edge of the area and then literally just passed it to one of their players just inside the box.
Some brilliant moments with very little end product.
He's scored a few and will score a few more but his main job is to provide and he just can't do that regularly.
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Surely another winger is a nice to have rather than a must have. Edwards has at least contributed two goals and you have to be in there to score them. My bigger concern is no goals for the strikers and none of them look like they'll get too many. I'd have though that was the priority. | |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:25 - Sep 28 with 2164 views | StokieBlue |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:19 - Sep 28 by BrixtonBlue |
Surely another winger is a nice to have rather than a must have. Edwards has at least contributed two goals and you have to be in there to score them. My bigger concern is no goals for the strikers and none of them look like they'll get too many. I'd have though that was the priority. |
I agree it's not essential, I think Edwards will be fine and will eventually end up coming off the bench to replace Lankester after 60-70 minutes.
Just pointing out that as a winger who has a main job of providing he's not particularly great.
Nice to see DaveU still going around and downvoting posts despite never contributing a single post on the forum!
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:33 - Sep 28 with 2114 views | hype313 |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:25 - Sep 28 by StokieBlue |
I agree it's not essential, I think Edwards will be fine and will eventually end up coming off the bench to replace Lankester after 60-70 minutes.
Just pointing out that as a winger who has a main job of providing he's not particularly great.
Nice to see DaveU still going around and downvoting posts despite never contributing a single post on the forum!
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That's Gwion's username. |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:37 - Sep 28 with 2096 views | homer_123 |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 10:10 - Sep 28 by StokieBlue |
You can see the problem with Edwards in one 20 second passage of play on Saturday.
He beat 2 or 3 players on the wing with some truly excellent skill, was clear and running in towards the edge of the area and then literally just passed it to one of their players just inside the box.
Some brilliant moments with very little end product.
He's scored a few and will score a few more but his main job is to provide and he just can't do that regularly.
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He also has a habit of not fully being in control of the ball at any point either. |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:42 - Sep 28 with 2070 views | rickw |
I think Lambert's comments probably mean he's not considering Jackson in the wide forward role, so I struggle to see how Jackson will fit in with the current system.
I don't like the term "winger" when playing 4-3-3, to me I think of a winger as a player who stays close to the touchline whipping in crosses. However these days the wide forwards/wingers from a 4-3-3 system are often the main goalscorers for their teams (Salah, Mane, Rashford, Greenwood, Aubameyang, Sterling....) |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:51 - Sep 28 with 2012 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:42 - Sep 28 by rickw |
I think Lambert's comments probably mean he's not considering Jackson in the wide forward role, so I struggle to see how Jackson will fit in with the current system.
I don't like the term "winger" when playing 4-3-3, to me I think of a winger as a player who stays close to the touchline whipping in crosses. However these days the wide forwards/wingers from a 4-3-3 system are often the main goalscorers for their teams (Salah, Mane, Rashford, Greenwood, Aubameyang, Sterling....) |
I'd say Jacko is well down the pecking order now.
He is not a central striker, that is obvious.
Sears, Lankester, Edwards, Judge all ahead of him in the wide front roles, so I seriously think his future is elsewhere. | |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:55 - Sep 28 with 2000 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Yes if Dobra goes out...can see value if he gets 30 plus games on loan.
JL has had nearly 2 years out so can't play 40 games, still getting his fitness back .
Jackson.... sell. |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:59 - Sep 28 with 1973 views | Herbivore |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:51 - Sep 28 by Wallingford_Boy |
I'd say Jacko is well down the pecking order now.
He is not a central striker, that is obvious.
Sears, Lankester, Edwards, Judge all ahead of him in the wide front roles, so I seriously think his future is elsewhere. |
Not sure Judge or Edwards should be ahead of him in the pecking order, Sears and Lankester both arguable. Jackson was our best attacking player last season and I'd expect him to offer more as a wide forward than a number of our current options. |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 12:01 - Sep 28 with 1966 views | Herbivore |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:59 - Sep 28 by Bluefish |
Err no. He has scored 2 absolute tap ins but apart from that he offers next to nothing and doesn't look as though he is in tune with the rest of the match. Complete highlights player [Post edited 28 Sep 2020 10:04]
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Goals are quite helpful though. | |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 12:03 - Sep 28 with 1957 views | Metal_Hacker |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 12:01 - Sep 28 by Herbivore |
Goals are quite helpful though. |
I'd gladly have a player making 10-15 "tap ins" a season |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 12:12 - Sep 28 with 1915 views | jayessess |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 11:59 - Sep 28 by Herbivore |
Not sure Judge or Edwards should be ahead of him in the pecking order, Sears and Lankester both arguable. Jackson was our best attacking player last season and I'd expect him to offer more as a wide forward than a number of our current options. |
IMO when he's fit, he'll end up playing centrally in a front three and will make lots of the very confident assertions that he can't do it look a bit silly. | |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 12:25 - Sep 28 with 1879 views | Garv |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 09:59 - Sep 28 by Bluefish |
Err no. He has scored 2 absolute tap ins but apart from that he offers next to nothing and doesn't look as though he is in tune with the rest of the match. Complete highlights player [Post edited 28 Sep 2020 10:04]
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Sterling scores a lot of tap ins too. |  |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 12:26 - Sep 28 with 1872 views | Garv |
My thoughts are...
A) Yes. In a team where they are so important, we still have limited options.
B) No. | |
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| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 12:30 - Sep 28 with 1845 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| This winger that Lambert is after then... on 12:12 - Sep 28 by jayessess |
IMO when he's fit, he'll end up playing centrally in a front three and will make lots of the very confident assertions that he can't do it look a bit silly. |
To play that central role you need to be able to a) hold the ball up, b) bring others into the game with your next touch and c) score the odd goal.
Kinda rules Jacko out! | |
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