| Finally, something really worth discussing 20:59 - Oct 14 with 1363 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
How football in England is funded.
I am so glad that the Project Big Picture has (i) been raised as an issue by the big 6 and (ii) been overturned.
The fact that it has been raised by the big 6 shows how frightened they are (yes - the big 6!) of losing the lower leagues. They have recognised (and probably did many years ago) that a Premier League without relegation, and thus promotion from below, would very soon be the source of ridicule. It is the fact of relegation that makes the Premier League the spectacle and pinnacle of competition that it is. Without relegation, it is just showbusiness - not sport.
The big 6 are running scared - the £50M is just a very short term sticking plaster.
If one good thing has come to sport from Coronavirus, it is surely that it has accelerated this crisis and the identification that the enormous TV revenues generated do not belong almost entirely in the Premier League - they must be shared across the whole professional football pyramid. I would propose that 50% of the revenues go to the Prem, 25% to the Championship, 12.5% to League 1 etc. That would be a way to ensure excellence is rewarded, the football structures are strong, and to curb the obscene riches in the Premier League. |  |
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| Finally, something really worth discussing on 21:03 - Oct 14 with 1348 views | J2BLUE |
I think you're reading this wrong. They aren't scared at all. The EFL are the group begging for help. Two rich clubs just saw an opportunity. Nothing to do with fear.
Us EFL fans who didn't like the proposals really owe our thanks to the Premier League clubs who opposed this. |  |
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| Finally, something really worth discussing on 21:07 - Oct 14 with 1336 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Finally, something really worth discussing on 21:03 - Oct 14 by J2BLUE |
I think you're reading this wrong. They aren't scared at all. The EFL are the group begging for help. Two rich clubs just saw an opportunity. Nothing to do with fear.
Us EFL fans who didn't like the proposals really owe our thanks to the Premier League clubs who opposed this. |
I don't think so - they didn't come up with this proposal from the goodness of their hearts. They know that they are a joke league without the pyramid below them. Nothing but showbusiness. They are scared, and they wouldn't have offered up 25% of TV revenues unless they were. | |
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| Finally, something really worth discussing on 03:59 - Oct 15 with 1216 views | harlingblue |
The pyramid was originally designed to create players for the national side. Money talks, TV takes over, Moneymen take over Football Clubs, (International Owners), have no care or knowledgement of the pyramid. They are prepared to pay £millions into Premiership Clubs to buy success. No Knowledge of our pyramid. £11million to each of the relegated, underachievers of their league, and now finally pay £50 million split between all League 1 and 2 Clubs. |  | | |
| Finally, something really worth discussing on 08:34 - Oct 15 with 1150 views | Herbivore |
| Finally, something really worth discussing on 21:07 - Oct 14 by LegendofthePhoenix |
I don't think so - they didn't come up with this proposal from the goodness of their hearts. They know that they are a joke league without the pyramid below them. Nothing but showbusiness. They are scared, and they wouldn't have offered up 25% of TV revenues unless they were. |
The 25% of TV revenues was essentially a bribe to get the EFL teams onside with the attempted power grab. And it nearly worked. A decent chunk of that 25% would have come from scrapping parachute payments and reducing the Prem to 18 sides. You can guarantee the extra powers the big clubs were giving themselves would have seen the TV money become unequally distributed amongst the sides in the Prem too. |  |
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| Finally, something really worth discussing on 08:47 - Oct 15 with 1144 views | itfcjoe |
| Finally, something really worth discussing on 08:34 - Oct 15 by Herbivore |
The 25% of TV revenues was essentially a bribe to get the EFL teams onside with the attempted power grab. And it nearly worked. A decent chunk of that 25% would have come from scrapping parachute payments and reducing the Prem to 18 sides. You can guarantee the extra powers the big clubs were giving themselves would have seen the TV money become unequally distributed amongst the sides in the Prem too. |
That was how the PL was originally set up - it's only because the International market exploded that the TV money is split so equally.....which in turn leads to the cliff edge between PL and Championship.
Interested to hear what your solution is to narrow that gap whilst losing parachute payments? It's a very difficult problem to solve, but something along lines of league winners getting £250m and 20th getting £50m would help rather than the £170m to £100m it currently is.......it effectively means the big 6 stay the big 6 forever, but that is likely the case anyway - it just can't be done with them having total control over votes |  |
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| Finally, something really worth discussing on 14:22 - Oct 15 with 1041 views | jayessess |
| Finally, something really worth discussing on 21:03 - Oct 14 by J2BLUE |
I think you're reading this wrong. They aren't scared at all. The EFL are the group begging for help. Two rich clubs just saw an opportunity. Nothing to do with fear.
Us EFL fans who didn't like the proposals really owe our thanks to the Premier League clubs who opposed this. |
I don't think the Big Clubs are scared exactly, but... I do think the EFL clubs under-estimate their leverage here a bit, as evidenced by their (now slightly embarrassing) desperation to accept Project Big Picture.
The divisions within the Premier League are right there to exploit if the EFL owners are smart. Add to that a general desire to maintain stability in the current economic climate and the bad politics of letting venerable social institutions in provincial towns and cities die right now, and I think they've a fair bit of room to manoeuvre. |  |
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| Finally, something really worth discussing on 22:21 - Oct 15 with 950 views | deano85 |
What do we think would happen if the EFL basicly said "we dont want anything to do with the EPL" Called the championship the top league (which it is for them) and canceled promotion...
The EFL would be seen as the official football pyramid in england, they would get the tv cash and the EPL would just be a stupid franchise with no way in or out... Big clubs woyld soon want back in... | | | |
| Finally, something really worth discussing on 09:23 - Oct 16 with 846 views | J2BLUE |
| Finally, something really worth discussing on 22:21 - Oct 15 by deano85 |
What do we think would happen if the EFL basicly said "we dont want anything to do with the EPL" Called the championship the top league (which it is for them) and canceled promotion...
The EFL would be seen as the official football pyramid in england, they would get the tv cash and the EPL would just be a stupid franchise with no way in or out... Big clubs woyld soon want back in... |
That's incredibly naive mate. That plan has more holes than a slice of emmental. | |
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| Finally, something really worth discussing on 09:44 - Oct 16 with 824 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Erm - no just the first step towards taking foreign owned clubs into a foreign owned league with broader horizons than England and probably Europe.
You need to be aware of dead cat negotiating - throw a dead cat on the table and say you want it.... it gets rejected, but the things you really want get through as you give way on the dead cst you never wanted.
There were a number of good points in the 'plan' which will eventually be adopted - but the big picture for the franchise owners is a global league - starting with what they already have in the NFL - games abroad. | |
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| Finally, something really worth discussing on 10:06 - Oct 16 with 806 views | deano85 |
| Finally, something really worth discussing on 09:23 - Oct 16 by J2BLUE |
That's incredibly naive mate. That plan has more holes than a slice of emmental. |
Im not saying its a plan, far from it.. As you say. A lot of holes...
Just highlights tge fact the EPL is nothing wirhout the efl... | | | |
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