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National lockdown looms, according to the Times 22:00 - Oct 30 with 6057 viewsitfcjoe


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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:02 - Oct 30 with 2932 viewsEdmundo

Country's been taken over by snowflakes and scientists.

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:04 - Oct 30 with 2920 viewsWD19

It’s true. Rommie said so.
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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:05 - Oct 30 with 2911 viewsitfcjoe

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:04 - Oct 30 by WD19

It’s true. Rommie said so.


His is a few weeks later than this one...

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:05 - Oct 30 with 2905 viewsEdmundo

Since when did the media run our country? Oh bbc yeah, about 1994.

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:11 - Oct 30 with 2881 viewsStokieBlue

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:02 - Oct 30 by Edmundo

Country's been taken over by snowflakes and scientists.


Why don't you tell that to the families of the 250 who died today or the 300 who die tomorrow and the 300 the day after that.

We are miles above the "worst case scenario" which was laid out at the start of October - that had deaths at around 100 a day at this point.

SB

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:12 - Oct 30 with 2865 viewsSpruceMoose

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:02 - Oct 30 by Edmundo

Country's been taken over by snowflakes and scientists.


Say what?

If it had been we wouldn't be in this mess.

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:13 - Oct 30 with 2865 viewsStokieBlue

Unfortunately I don't see how we can do anything else at this stage. Deaths are nearly 3 times the expected "worst-case" at this point and seem to be rising.

France, Belgium and Germany have already locked down. Do we risk leaving it too late again - it's possible we already have.

It's horrible and nobody wants another lockdown but the alternative is a continued growth in the numbers. Even if we lockdown tomorrow the numbers will still keep increasing for the next couple of weeks.

SB

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:16 - Oct 30 with 2848 viewsBlueBadger

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:11 - Oct 30 by StokieBlue

Why don't you tell that to the families of the 250 who died today or the 300 who die tomorrow and the 300 the day after that.

We are miles above the "worst case scenario" which was laid out at the start of October - that had deaths at around 100 a day at this point.

SB


I wouldn't ask him to do that many.

Just this person's family. Just one. The lack of empathy of these t0ssers will see me doing a stretch, I swear.

Despatches From The Front Line Part Seven: Back in Blue by BlueBadger 18 May 2020 16:56
As always, all names and locations have been changed.
Trigger warning: This post contains content you may find upsetting.

So far, My Adventures With Covid-19 have been all about my work as an Outreach nurse, supporting the wards with the sickest of the sick 'in the wild'. That's done with for the time being as 3 weeks ago I was semi-voluntarily redeployed back to the ITU I worked upon for 12 years to shore up numbers and add much-needed experience to the team(the title of this post reflects my uniform colour change - my usual outfit is a rather natty custom made set of scrubs in turquoise - I'm now in varying shades of blue, depending on what's available in the changing room).

It's been a not particularly gentle reintroduction, it's fair to say.
12 hours in full PPE of gown(fabric if you're lucky, super hot plastic-lined paper if you're not), gloves, visor(a choice of light-but-misty-to-look-through medical visors or heavy-but-clear-vision 'helmets' donated by a local builders' merchant) and FFP3 mask(with a filter if you're lucky - you'll live without one, but you'll be a lot more comfortable with one. Oh, and those pictures in the news showing healthcare workers with facial pressures sores after being in them all day - totally A Thing) is no fun for starters, particularly if, like me, you're starting to develop a distinctly 'middle aged' bladder.
Then there's the patients - I'll probably go over this in more detail in the future when I feel closer to the top of the Covid ITU learning curve, but let's just say they stay longer, get sicker and are more unstable than any other ITU patient group in my experience apart from maybe severely septic surgical patients.

Days 1-5 are busy but nothing I can't cope with without a bit of a 'I've had a year out of this, give me some time here please' run-up at them.

Then comes day 6.
There comes a time in the beginning of every ITU nurse's careers when they have *that* day - the one that overwhelms you utterly - either by the sheer amount of work involved in keeping someone alive, a sudden rapid deterioration of condition or Something Else Horrible.
I might have 12 years ITU service under my belt and I'm not a greenhorn by any means but I'm still finding my feet at this point and so I figure I'm allowed a second *that* day.

The patient is in their early 60's and has a previous history of type 2 diabetes and only one working kidney following a renal carcinoma a few years ago but this was successfully treated(by removing the offending organ) and they have enjoyed good health since.
They've been in ITU 18 days and spent 17 of those intubated.
Handover comes from Kim, a lass in her early 30's with a wealth of ITU experience who's married to a serviceman and has thus, never spent longer than 2 years working anywhere.
Despite the head-to-toe PPE I can see she's worried and extremely tired from two nights spent struggling with this patient.
An A-E assessment and handover tells me the following:

A - Airway is safe, due to the presence of an ET tube which is safely secured with fabric ties and an inflatable cuff somewhere just above the patient's larynx.

B - Breathing is severely compromised - the patient is on 70% oxygen via the ventilator, which, due to severe ARDS reducing lung compliance, is needing high airway pressures to inflate the lungs adequately. In an attempt to make the lungs more compliant, the patient has been started on a muscle relaxant drug(sometimes called a 'paralysing agent by anaesthetists) to reduce the amount of 'fight' the lungs have against the ventilator.

C - Cardiovascularly, they're requiring a high dose of noradrenaline to support blood pressure, are running a slightly fast heart rate and the one kidney is in a severe stage 3 AKI and needing dialysis. An estimated 20%+ of ITU patients with covid will suffer an AKI severe enough to need dialysis. On top of this, Kim tells me that any slight movement or change of the patient's position results in either them dropping their oxygen saturation levels, their blood pressure, or both. Urine out is, unsurprisingly given the AKI, low BP and fluid removal on dialysis, minimal.

D - Disability. The 'neuro' bit. When I teach people A-E assessment, I tend to informally refer to 'D' as 'drowsy', so it concentrates the thinking a bit better. the patient is heavily sedated on two strong sedatives - propofol, an anaesthetic agent and fentanyl, a strong opioid. This is needed for two reasons 1 - ET tube tolerance and 2 - being under the influence of muscle relaxants is deeply distressing if you're in any way awake - those stories of patients 'awake' on the operating table but being unable to move you heard a lot about in the 90's? That's what muscle relaxants are like if you're not properly sedated - drugs with huge potential to cause a massive amount of mental trauma. In addition we're running an insulin infusion to control blood sugar - it's running high, unsurprisingly, given the severity of the patient's illness.

E - Exposure or, as I teach it, 'everything else'. There's pressure sores around their mouth from ET tube ties, a nasogastric(NG) tube in place for feeding and bowels haven't been open for around 6 days now. Ominously, Kim reports that the patient appears not to be digesting their feed - she's aspirated 500mls from their stomach at 6 when doing a routine 'are they absorbing' test.

So, three organs confirmed as being 'in failure' and it seems like the gut is coming out in sympathy. and that's before we get into the persistently high blood sugar and skin damage.
I do some checks of my bed space and start tweaking and fine-tuning around my kit and drugs to see if I can improve ANYTHING. Adjusting the ventilator settings results in improved oxygenation but at the cost of much higher airway pressures(and the potential for lung damage) and dropping blood pressure(thanks to the effects of a raised intra-thoracic pressure courtesy of the ventilator pressures on BP), so I abandon that.
Fiddling with sedation(propofol in particular is notorious for lowering blood pressure) results in slightly better blood pressure at the cost of an increasing heart rate - the patient is likely waking on some level and becoming distressed, so I abandon that as well.
Long story short, any and all of the tricks I try(and I have a LOT of tricks) results in one thing mildly improving at the expense of something else getting worse.

After an hour and a half of this, I'm resigned to a very long and depressing day of struggling to control anything for this very unstable, very sick patient and with no control comes no improvement and sit down to ponder my options when Anji and Sanjay appear. Anji and Sanjay are our two consultants for the day - Anji and Sanjay are both Indian, Anji is in her late 30's who's polite and soft approach masks a steely interior and and Sanjay is an astonishingly clever guy in his late 40's who's clinical knowledge is pretty much peerless but his communication and 'people' skills are sometimes lacking - he's not rude as such, just a bit 'on the spectrum' and definitely a chap you need to get to know, if I might be permitted to use a rather vulgar term.
Two consultants at a bed space before 10 is not A Good Sign.
'How are we doing here BB' Anji asks me. I explain the above to her and she exchanges glances with Sanjay, who nods very slightly.
'Yeah, I think you're probably right about this poor soul' says Sanjay.
Anji turns back to face me and says 'I'm going to speak to the family. I've been looking at this one for a few days now and we're getting nowhere. I Think we're at the stage of prolonging death now, rather than saving life'.
This would be why she's brought Sanjay in then. A second opinion and confirmation that we're all on the page.
Anji goes off to speak to the family and, after further discussion with Sanjay, we decide to stop the dialysis machine in anticipation of withdrawing care later.

Anji reappears after an hour to tell me that she's spoken to family an they've requested a Zoom call so that they can say goodbye. I call our family liaison officer to arrange a time and myself and Tomasz, another returnee to the unit stop and strip down the dialysis machine and smarten up the patient up with a fresh gown, top sheet and some 'bits that show' personal care(typical things you'd do here would be a shave, face wash, hairbrush and changing of ET tube ties) and then the call happens.
The family are heartbreakingly dignified and composed in the face of not only the worst news ever, but happening in the worst possible fashion.
When they've said their goodbyes I explain to the family how withdrawal of care will work, reassure them them that their loved one will not suffer through the process and ask if there's anything they'd me to do for them.
They ask that they're not left alone and that I talk to them about happier times - grandchildren, holidays and the garden. I make notes on things to say and close the Zoom chat.
Then it's the business of withdrawal of care.

It's important to remember that when you withdraw the care, you are not 'killing' the patient, you are withdrawing any and all support and allowing nature to take its course. This is what we tell to junior embers of the team when we're doing it and, on a cold logical level, it's true.

It's still feels like murder though. Every time.

Thankfully I've only had to do it half a dozen times my career(you remember them all) but it feels like murder every time.

The process starts with me giving a generous bolus of both sedatives. When I say 'generous, I mean 'generous'. The doses involved would generally be good enough for a general anaesthetic. I then stop the muscle relaxant and increase the rate of infusion on my sedatives. Next to stop are the insulin and feed and for good measure I aspirate the NG tube. There's 400mls of undigested feed sat there, so I'm sure they'll feel better for getting rid of that sitting there.
The final stage of the process is weaning down oxygen, ventilator support and blood pressure support. This takes me about 30 minutes all told and I'm talking to the patient all the way through, monitoring for signs of distress(increasing heart rate, rising blood pressure) and adjusting sedation accordingly.
Finally, with everything off or, in the case of the ventilator, at minimal settings I sit and hold the patient's hand, chatting to them about the things their family wanted them to hear and watch as the life signs gradually fade out over the next half hour.
With the ECG flat and no spontaneous breaths happening, I check for a carotid and femoral pulse, switch off the ventilator and monitor and inform the duty SHO so they can certify the patient's passing.

As for me, after calling the family to let them know that their loved one has passed peacefully, I'm headed for a cuppa(I NEED some 'out time) before laying them out and sending them to 'Rose Cottage'.

Stay safe all.

Additional reading(all pretty technical):

AKI in Covid-19:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30229-0/fulltext

Intra-thoracic pressure and blood pressure:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/thorax-pressure

Abbreviations and explanations : https://wwww.twtd.co.uk/forum/478292/4576782/common-

Previously...

Part one: https://wwww.twtd.co.uk/forum/478292/despatches-from-the-front-line-part-one/#0

Part two : https://wwww.twtd.co.uk/forum/478646/despatches-from-the-front-line-part-two-a-s

Part three : https://wwww.twtd.co.uk/forum/478885/despatches-from-the-front-line-part-three-w

Part four: https://wwww.twtd.co.uk/forum/479197/despatches-from-the-front-line-part-four-id

Part Five: https://wwww.twtd.co.uk/forum/479404/despatches-from-the-front-line-part-five-ho

Part Six: https://wwww.twtd.co.uk/forum/480252/despatches-from-the-front-line-part-six-arrested-developments#480252


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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:19 - Oct 30 with 2813 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Good to see that eating out helped out!
Schools' turn to help out now....maybe the government should have given money for laptops and remote learning resources rather than lining their mates' pockets.

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:19 - Oct 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

Good to see that eating out helped out!
Schools' turn to help out now....maybe the government should have given money for laptops and remote learning resources rather than lining their mates' pockets.


Do you realise how difficult it was to get kids to engage during lockdown and how hard it was for teachers? Remote learning is a two way process teachers did their part some kids just will not engage even with a free laptop, and lots were given out.
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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:55 - Oct 30 with 2657 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:35 - Oct 30 by gazzer1999

Do you realise how difficult it was to get kids to engage during lockdown and how hard it was for teachers? Remote learning is a two way process teachers did their part some kids just will not engage even with a free laptop, and lots were given out.


That 2 way process and engagement is a lot easier for public skool kids with 9 till 3:30 online lessons though innit!

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:03 - Oct 30 with 2629 viewsJ2BLUE

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:11 - Oct 30 by StokieBlue

Why don't you tell that to the families of the 250 who died today or the 300 who die tomorrow and the 300 the day after that.

We are miles above the "worst case scenario" which was laid out at the start of October - that had deaths at around 100 a day at this point.

SB


Was he not joking? Scientists?

The only other person i've seen say something that stupid and not be joking is the leader of the free world...

Truly impaired.
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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:04 - Oct 30 with 2625 viewsFixed_It

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:13 - Oct 30 by StokieBlue

Unfortunately I don't see how we can do anything else at this stage. Deaths are nearly 3 times the expected "worst-case" at this point and seem to be rising.

France, Belgium and Germany have already locked down. Do we risk leaving it too late again - it's possible we already have.

It's horrible and nobody wants another lockdown but the alternative is a continued growth in the numbers. Even if we lockdown tomorrow the numbers will still keep increasing for the next couple of weeks.

SB


Should have gone for the circuit breaker whilst they could and as they were advised Too late....again.

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:05 - Oct 30 with 2609 viewsSitfcB

Let’s wait and see if Elder confirms. 🕵🏻‍♂️

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:08 - Oct 30 with 2594 viewsPlums

Weeks late and reactive once again. They’ve learned nothing. Utter shambles of a ‘government’

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:10 - Oct 30 with 2578 viewsStokieBlue

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:03 - Oct 30 by J2BLUE

Was he not joking? Scientists?

The only other person i've seen say something that stupid and not be joking is the leader of the free world...


Hard to tell anymore to be honest.

SB

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:24 - Oct 30 with 2525 viewsSomethingBlue

Blood on the government's hands. When this is over and people are safe the reckoning needs to be savage.

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:28 - Oct 30 with 2507 viewsDubtractor

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:24 - Oct 30 by SomethingBlue

Blood on the government's hands. When this is over and people are safe the reckoning needs to be savage.


Alas, we all know it won't be.

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:29 - Oct 30 with 2503 viewsghostofescobar

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:02 - Oct 30 by Edmundo

Country's been taken over by snowflakes and scientists.


Wish it had. It’s much, much worse than that, it’s Boris. Hence the fvck up after fvck up after fvck up.......

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:39 - Oct 30 with 2471 viewsDinDjarin

A load of chaps I know, 7 or 8 playing golf at Stowmarket course have all tested positive for covid.

Some of them in their 60's and quite poorly.
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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 22:35 - Oct 30 by gazzer1999

Do you realise how difficult it was to get kids to engage during lockdown and how hard it was for teachers? Remote learning is a two way process teachers did their part some kids just will not engage even with a free laptop, and lots were given out.


It works well in Estonia...
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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 07:37 - Oct 31 with 2139 viewsitfcjoe

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 23:04 - Oct 30 by Fixed_It

Should have gone for the circuit breaker whilst they could and as they were advised Too late....again.


Reported in Spectator that Johnson “can’t” because Starmer has called for it so will look bad politically.

That’s what we are dealing with here

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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 07:37 - Oct 31 by itfcjoe

Reported in Spectator that Johnson “can’t” because Starmer has called for it so will look bad politically.

That’s what we are dealing with here


Should have had a government of national unity the minute Johnson went into ICU.
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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 07:44 - Oct 31 with 2094 viewsFenoit

Any idea what this looks like for those in the building industry? Shutdown again? Unable to purchase supplies?
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National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 07:46 - Oct 31 with 2081 viewsAce_High1

National lockdown looms, according to the Times on 07:44 - Oct 31 by Fenoit

Any idea what this looks like for those in the building industry? Shutdown again? Unable to purchase supplies?


I think it will be that certain industries will be able to claim they are "essential".

Same happened in March, a lot of my customers who had construction sites claimed they were essential and over time that was backed by industry bodies.

The issue for my staff is if the restaurants and hotels shut it makes it very difficult as due to travel each week we often have staff staying away during the week when working on site.
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