| What is worse? 08:18 - Nov 4 with 3561 views | Bluefish |
PRP losing yet again to a top 10 side or Leadboots scoring the winner? |  |
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| What is worse? on 08:35 - Nov 4 with 2995 views | WD19 |
Well one of those is definitely more surprising than the other. |  | | |
| What is worse? on 08:59 - Nov 4 with 2961 views | Basuco |
The worse thing is the loss was caused by two very harsh referee decisions against us. |  | | |
| What is worse? on 09:11 - Nov 4 with 2951 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
When we win, you ignore results and focus on 'poor performances'.
When we lose your ignore 'good performance' and focus on poor result.
In true Bluefish style. |  |
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| What is worse? on 09:19 - Nov 4 with 2932 views | MattinLondon |
| What is worse? on 09:11 - Nov 4 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
When we win, you ignore results and focus on 'poor performances'.
When we lose your ignore 'good performance' and focus on poor result.
In true Bluefish style. |
The thing is, there is always some excuse which prevents PL from achieving what we expect from him.
Poor refereeing decisions, poor defensive lapses which he can’t predict or plain bad luck.
There will always be something getting in the way - PL is a poor tactician, poor coach and doesn’t react quickly enough. He goes from one extreme to the other and spins the story to the masses. |  | | |
| What is worse? on 09:19 - Nov 4 with 2926 views | Bluefish |
| What is worse? on 09:11 - Nov 4 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
When we win, you ignore results and focus on 'poor performances'.
When we lose your ignore 'good performance' and focus on poor result.
In true Bluefish style. |
What on earth are you talking about? | |
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| What is worse? on 09:23 - Nov 4 with 2924 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| What is worse? on 09:19 - Nov 4 by MattinLondon |
The thing is, there is always some excuse which prevents PL from achieving what we expect from him.
Poor refereeing decisions, poor defensive lapses which he can’t predict or plain bad luck.
There will always be something getting in the way - PL is a poor tactician, poor coach and doesn’t react quickly enough. He goes from one extreme to the other and spins the story to the masses. |
I think that is a fair assessment. Certainly doesn't seem to be the tactical type of manager, seems more in line with a man-motivator type.
There have been excuses in his post-match interviews which should wash over peoples head by now because they are so obviously in contradiction with what is actually happening on the pitch.
But last night I did agree with him, the officials took that one away from us, in what was actually a good away display. | |
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| What is worse? on 09:27 - Nov 4 with 2914 views | BlueBadger |
| What is worse? on 09:11 - Nov 4 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
When we win, you ignore results and focus on 'poor performances'.
When we lose your ignore 'good performance' and focus on poor result.
In true Bluefish style. |
Is this a re-run of the old 'yes, but the performances are improved' thing from the Limpest Relegation Ever Seen? |  |
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| Agreed, he's certainly not a tactician..... on 09:30 - Nov 4 with 2906 views | Bloots |
| What is worse? on 09:23 - Nov 4 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
I think that is a fair assessment. Certainly doesn't seem to be the tactical type of manager, seems more in line with a man-motivator type.
There have been excuses in his post-match interviews which should wash over peoples head by now because they are so obviously in contradiction with what is actually happening on the pitch.
But last night I did agree with him, the officials took that one away from us, in what was actually a good away display. |
....the problem is that he doesn't even talk to the players so he's not a man motivator either.
So what is he?
.....and by the way, it amazes me that people are overlooking the first 30 minutes last night, some of the dullest, most negative, pedestrian, ponderous football I have seen in years. |  |
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| Agreed, he's certainly not a tactician..... on 09:37 - Nov 4 with 2883 views | BlueBadger |
| Agreed, he's certainly not a tactician..... on 09:30 - Nov 4 by Bloots |
....the problem is that he doesn't even talk to the players so he's not a man motivator either.
So what is he?
.....and by the way, it amazes me that people are overlooking the first 30 minutes last night, some of the dullest, most negative, pedestrian, ponderous football I have seen in years. |
As far as I can work out based on what I've seen this season, Lamebert's our main tactic this season has been 'ponderously move the ball about and hope for an early-sh goal because the majority of the division is too crap to too come back effectively' and we've gotten away with it so far because we've mainly played cannon fodder and also-rans. | |
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| Agreed, he's certainly not a tactician..... on 09:37 - Nov 4 with 2884 views | Fixed_It |
| Agreed, he's certainly not a tactician..... on 09:30 - Nov 4 by Bloots |
....the problem is that he doesn't even talk to the players so he's not a man motivator either.
So what is he?
.....and by the way, it amazes me that people are overlooking the first 30 minutes last night, some of the dullest, most negative, pedestrian, ponderous football I have seen in years. |
The first 20 mins weren't great - but I assume you haven't watched our previous two away defeats if you say it was the 'dullest, most negative, pedestrian, ponderous football I have seen in years'. But for 70 minutes yesterday we were the better team, and got stronger as the match went on. We were even better than Sunderland when down to 10 men. But you just carry on focussing on the poor bits... |  |
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| Agreed, he's certainly not a tactician..... on 09:42 - Nov 4 with 2870 views | BlueBadger |
| Agreed, he's certainly not a tactician..... on 09:37 - Nov 4 by Fixed_It |
The first 20 mins weren't great - but I assume you haven't watched our previous two away defeats if you say it was the 'dullest, most negative, pedestrian, ponderous football I have seen in years'. But for 70 minutes yesterday we were the better team, and got stronger as the match went on. We were even better than Sunderland when down to 10 men. But you just carry on focussing on the poor bits... |
In all fairness, it's easy to remember the good bits given that that's they've been pretty few and far between. Even when we've won this season, we've rarely looked convincing. | |
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| I watch every game sunshine..... on 09:47 - Nov 4 with 2858 views | Bloots |
| Agreed, he's certainly not a tactician..... on 09:37 - Nov 4 by Fixed_It |
The first 20 mins weren't great - but I assume you haven't watched our previous two away defeats if you say it was the 'dullest, most negative, pedestrian, ponderous football I have seen in years'. But for 70 minutes yesterday we were the better team, and got stronger as the match went on. We were even better than Sunderland when down to 10 men. But you just carry on focussing on the poor bits... |
....and I stand by what I said.
We barely made any attempt to even pass the ball forward in that first 30 minutes (not 20) and in the whole match we only managed to muster up 2 shots on target.
Yes we absolutely improved as the game went on, I thought Bishop in particular was excellent last night.
Possession doesn't equate to points.
We lost. | |
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| What is worse? on 09:54 - Nov 4 with 2841 views | ITFC_Forever |
| What is worse? on 09:11 - Nov 4 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
When we win, you ignore results and focus on 'poor performances'.
When we lose your ignore 'good performance' and focus on poor result.
In true Bluefish style. |
It's certainly fair to say we haven't got what we deserved from the last three games.... |  |
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| What is worse? on 09:55 - Nov 4 with 2839 views | MattinLondon |
| What is worse? on 09:23 - Nov 4 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
I think that is a fair assessment. Certainly doesn't seem to be the tactical type of manager, seems more in line with a man-motivator type.
There have been excuses in his post-match interviews which should wash over peoples head by now because they are so obviously in contradiction with what is actually happening on the pitch.
But last night I did agree with him, the officials took that one away from us, in what was actually a good away display. |
Last night should easily be a ‘stand alone’ game in the sense that we had two very poor decisions. But it comes on top of continuous poor performances spanning since he arrived.
I cannot give him the benefit of the doubt for last night. | | | |
| I watch every game sunshine..... on 10:01 - Nov 4 with 2823 views | Fixed_It |
| I watch every game sunshine..... on 09:47 - Nov 4 by Bloots |
....and I stand by what I said.
We barely made any attempt to even pass the ball forward in that first 30 minutes (not 20) and in the whole match we only managed to muster up 2 shots on target.
Yes we absolutely improved as the game went on, I thought Bishop in particular was excellent last night.
Possession doesn't equate to points.
We lost. |
We deserved more from the game. Sunshine. | |
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| Agreed..... on 10:03 - Nov 4 with 2813 views | Bloots |
| I watch every game sunshine..... on 10:01 - Nov 4 by Fixed_It |
We deserved more from the game. Sunshine. |
....but that's football.
We didn't deserve to win against Crewe.
But that's football. | |
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| Agreed, he's certainly not a tactician..... on 10:23 - Nov 4 with 2774 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Agreed, he's certainly not a tactician..... on 09:30 - Nov 4 by Bloots |
....the problem is that he doesn't even talk to the players so he's not a man motivator either.
So what is he?
.....and by the way, it amazes me that people are overlooking the first 30 minutes last night, some of the dullest, most negative, pedestrian, ponderous football I have seen in years. |
No I'm not saying he is a good man motivator, I genuinely wouldn't know, we are not in camp and don't know how he treats the players on a day to day basis, so in essence none of us know.
The 30 minutes up to the goal was tedious to say the least agreed. It was boring, slow and lethargic, and unfortunately seen too frequent this year.
But the following 60 was such contrast, and I actually enjoyed watching us to play.
BUT it doesn't happen ioften enough, and I question whether it was purely just the inner talent of the players 'clicking', rather than the coaching of the staff, because if it were the coaching, surely we would be seeing it on a more consistent basis. | |
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| Agreed..... on 10:26 - Nov 4 with 2763 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Agreed..... on 10:03 - Nov 4 by Bloots |
....but that's football.
We didn't deserve to win against Crewe.
But that's football. |
It happens, no doubt about it, and we have to dust ourselves and move on.
But I don't like it when the game is decided by a poor refereeing decision, something that wasn't the case V Crewe, we were just more clinical on that particular day. | |
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| Agreed..... on 10:35 - Nov 4 with 2748 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Agreed..... on 10:03 - Nov 4 by Bloots |
....but that's football.
We didn't deserve to win against Crewe.
But that's football. |
The thing about Crewe is we won it with things we did (scored a goal, defended resolutely) rather than being helped out by the ref.
I thought we played really well for the most part last night, and were looking like we were going to win until the sending off. The penalty was just salt in the wound.
People have been right in that we've been unconvincing against the top sides, but last night we bossed a top side in their own back yard. People should take heart from that. |  |
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| What is worse? on 10:37 - Nov 4 with 2736 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| What is worse? on 09:19 - Nov 4 by Bluefish |
What on earth are you talking about? |
He's spot on to be fair.
I did smile when Edwards got another assist (and generally played very well). | |
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| Agreed..... on 10:40 - Nov 4 with 2718 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| Agreed..... on 10:35 - Nov 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
The thing about Crewe is we won it with things we did (scored a goal, defended resolutely) rather than being helped out by the ref.
I thought we played really well for the most part last night, and were looking like we were going to win until the sending off. The penalty was just salt in the wound.
People have been right in that we've been unconvincing against the top sides, but last night we bossed a top side in their own back yard. People should take heart from that. |
Amen. | |
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| Rent free (n/t) on 11:26 - Nov 4 with 2675 views | Bloots |
| What is worse? on 10:37 - Nov 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
He's spot on to be fair.
I did smile when Edwards got another assist (and generally played very well). |
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| We had 2 shots on target last night..... on 11:30 - Nov 4 with 2670 views | Bloots |
| Agreed..... on 10:35 - Nov 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
The thing about Crewe is we won it with things we did (scored a goal, defended resolutely) rather than being helped out by the ref.
I thought we played really well for the most part last night, and were looking like we were going to win until the sending off. The penalty was just salt in the wound.
People have been right in that we've been unconvincing against the top sides, but last night we bossed a top side in their own back yard. People should take heart from that. |
....if we'd scored them both we still wouldn't have won.
I'd hardly say we "bossed it".
I guess we'll see how it all turns out at the end of the season, but my view hasn't changed and from what I can see this is just a mirror image of last season but with more passing it around between defenders.
Rock n roll. | |
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| We had 2 shots on target last night..... on 11:34 - Nov 4 with 2648 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| We had 2 shots on target last night..... on 11:30 - Nov 4 by Bloots |
....if we'd scored them both we still wouldn't have won.
I'd hardly say we "bossed it".
I guess we'll see how it all turns out at the end of the season, but my view hasn't changed and from what I can see this is just a mirror image of last season but with more passing it around between defenders.
Rock n roll. |
Yeah but we would've had more shots if we hadn't been reduced to 10 men. Not only do I stand by my bossed it comment, we even looked the better team with 10 men. I can't remember a time that's ever been the case with ITFC. | |
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| We had 2 shots on target last night..... on 11:42 - Nov 4 with 2635 views | MattinLondon |
| We had 2 shots on target last night..... on 11:34 - Nov 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Yeah but we would've had more shots if we hadn't been reduced to 10 men. Not only do I stand by my bossed it comment, we even looked the better team with 10 men. I can't remember a time that's ever been the case with ITFC. |
We would have had more shots if...the trouble is there always seems to be a ‘would have’ aspect to PL tenure as manage. There is very rarely a definitive argument of dominant performances matching with three points.
There is always an excuse that PL unearths to justify poor performance. | | | |
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