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On the whole it was abysmal 17:41 - Nov 7 with 5846 viewsBluefish

As per usual

It isnt the players because we had 9 changes, it is the system that just simply doesn't work. Not only is it not an effective way to win games, it is dire to watch

Get this clown out

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On the whole it was abysmal on 23:42 - Nov 7 with 2066 viewsEireannach_gorm

On the whole it was abysmal on 21:15 - Nov 7 by TJS

Last time we lost in round one of the FA Cup was 1955.
That’s right - 65 years ago.
Hope Evans and Lambert are proud of themselves.
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Lambert brings another milestone.
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On the whole it was abysmal on 23:55 - Nov 7 with 2050 viewsNthsuffolkblue

On the whole it was abysmal on 18:12 - Nov 7 by jayessess

Tell Lambert that -
First XI today = 5 x Lambert signings, 4 x Lambert contract extensions.
Subs = 2 x Lambert signings, 2 x Lambert contract extensions.
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5? Cornell, McGuinness, Bennetts, Hawkins. Who is the 5th?

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On the whole it was abysmal on 23:55 - Nov 7 with 2050 viewsEireannach_gorm

On the whole it was abysmal on 20:44 - Nov 7 by Chrisd

The fact you have to ask is more a concern.


Thats a bit of a facile answer. There clearly is a good team to be made from our large squad which is proven by when we play well. Unfortunately we only play well in fits and starts which has to be down to the manager. That allied to poor game management points to the problem. For example why did so much of the first team need to be left out today? Its not like they are going to be exhausted with the upcoming games. Why was Dobra not even a sub? Judge seems to be required to play every game. Anyway what do I know as the current plan is working so well.
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On the whole it was abysmal on 08:52 - Nov 8 with 1994 viewsKropotkin123

On the whole it was abysmal on 18:17 - Nov 7 by Chrisd

Our reserve squad had a good 30 minutes, that is all. Out of our ‘reserves’ we’ve got a lot of them that have got considerable first team experience too - Nsiala, Kenlock, Huws, Nolan to name a few, but let’s call them reserves because that works well for your argument. I know you’re not PL’s biggest fan and nor am I to be honest and I do accept that he will carry the can ultimately of our failings, but equally I’m not fooled either that we have this incredible depth of pool of players to select from. There’s some that would struggle to play regularly in a L2 side.
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Who would be your first 11 and if you can be bothered, please put a number next to them to indicate

1 - No other option/L2 at best
2 - Okay/L1 at best
3 - Good/Could hold their own in the Championship

This isn't a launching pad to disagree, I'm genuinely interested.

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On the whole it was abysmal on 09:04 - Nov 8 with 1981 viewsChrisd

On the whole it was abysmal on 23:55 - Nov 7 by Eireannach_gorm

Thats a bit of a facile answer. There clearly is a good team to be made from our large squad which is proven by when we play well. Unfortunately we only play well in fits and starts which has to be down to the manager. That allied to poor game management points to the problem. For example why did so much of the first team need to be left out today? Its not like they are going to be exhausted with the upcoming games. Why was Dobra not even a sub? Judge seems to be required to play every game. Anyway what do I know as the current plan is working so well.


But haven't you not just answered my point? There's a good team to be made from our 'large' squad. I just believe within that large pool of players there's a lot we could afford to get rid of and I've felt that for some time, we haven't got this amazing dearth of talent that we can afford to make mass changes and not expect it to impact on performances and results. Lets not forget, there was quite a lot that played yesterday that have significant first team experience, we aren't talking about a team of inexperienced youngsters in that starting XI. I certainly feel that PL has his role to play, he should've gone months ago, but ME made that impossible with the ridiculous 5 year contract for the manager. Sacking PL a couple of months after signing it would've made ME look comical.

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On the whole it was abysmal on 09:08 - Nov 8 with 1980 viewsGavTWTD

On the whole it was abysmal on 18:05 - Nov 7 by Chrisd

I know you keep saying, but there’s players in our squad that aren’t good enough and that’s clear as day. Until we start accepting that we won’t move forward.


It seems he's learned nothing from last season. Why make all those changes and expect them all to work? Make 5 changes at most and keep a core together. It took the first half to get the players to "gel" and I use the term loosely.

That said, pleased to see McGavin, and I hope the goal for Norwood will be a positive for the rest of the season.

Disappointed with Huws again.

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On the whole it was abysmal on 09:10 - Nov 8 with 1978 viewsChrisd

On the whole it was abysmal on 08:52 - Nov 8 by Kropotkin123

Who would be your first 11 and if you can be bothered, please put a number next to them to indicate

1 - No other option/L2 at best
2 - Okay/L1 at best
3 - Good/Could hold their own in the Championship

This isn't a launching pad to disagree, I'm genuinely interested.


These type of discussions are futile because it is subjective Kropotkin, there's not going to be much agreement as people have their own opinions on players. I've tried to start a discussion like this before, but it wasn't greeted warmly. I'm quite happy to stick with my own view about certain players, like others on this forum and football fans generally. What I say doesn't mean it's right, nor does it with what others suggest either.....it's just a point of view.
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On the whole it was abysmal on 09:29 - Nov 8 with 1946 viewsHerbivore

On the whole it was abysmal on 09:10 - Nov 8 by Chrisd

These type of discussions are futile because it is subjective Kropotkin, there's not going to be much agreement as people have their own opinions on players. I've tried to start a discussion like this before, but it wasn't greeted warmly. I'm quite happy to stick with my own view about certain players, like others on this forum and football fans generally. What I say doesn't mean it's right, nor does it with what others suggest either.....it's just a point of view.
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So you've claimed that a number of our first team squad would struggle to get regular football in League 2 - a pretty bold claim by any measure - but you aren't prepared to stick your neck out and say which players?

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On the whole it was abysmal on 09:30 - Nov 8 with 1951 viewsMonkeyAlan

4 4 2 would work much better with the players we have. This 4 4 3 isn't working as we just don't have the personal to play that system. Tapping it around at the back doesn't hurt the opposition. Pompey were quite happy to sit back and watch.
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On the whole it was abysmal on 09:43 - Nov 8 with 1937 viewsHerbivore

On the whole it was abysmal on 09:30 - Nov 8 by MonkeyAlan

4 4 2 would work much better with the players we have. This 4 4 3 isn't working as we just don't have the personal to play that system. Tapping it around at the back doesn't hurt the opposition. Pompey were quite happy to sit back and watch.


That's a horrible shout.

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On the whole it was abysmal on 10:27 - Nov 8 with 1913 viewsChrisd

On the whole it was abysmal on 09:29 - Nov 8 by Herbivore

So you've claimed that a number of our first team squad would struggle to get regular football in League 2 - a pretty bold claim by any measure - but you aren't prepared to stick your neck out and say which players?


Lame

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On the whole it was abysmal on 10:34 - Nov 8 with 1908 viewsportmanroadblue

It can work, but firstly, you need better movement in front of the back 4 by both the midfield and forwards, secondly, you need defenders comfortable on the ball and can distribute the ball, and thirdly, you need a plan B if all the above is not happening.
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On the whole it was abysmal on 10:43 - Nov 8 with 1899 viewsportmanroadblue

On the whole it was abysmal on 09:08 - Nov 8 by GavTWTD

It seems he's learned nothing from last season. Why make all those changes and expect them all to work? Make 5 changes at most and keep a core together. It took the first half to get the players to "gel" and I use the term loosely.

That said, pleased to see McGavin, and I hope the goal for Norwood will be a positive for the rest of the season.

Disappointed with Huws again.


Think McGavin looked very good and composed, would like to see him playing alongside Dozzell, Downes and Bishop.
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On the whole it was abysmal on 13:17 - Nov 8 with 1862 viewsHerbivore

On the whole it was abysmal on 10:27 - Nov 8 by Chrisd

Lame


Not at all. What's lame is making a claim about the quality of our players whilst clearly not being prepared to try to back it up.

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On the whole it was abysmal on 13:38 - Nov 8 with 1852 viewsChrisd

On the whole it was abysmal on 13:17 - Nov 8 by Herbivore

Not at all. What's lame is making a claim about the quality of our players whilst clearly not being prepared to try to back it up.


You keep believing otherwise, but that's fine too.

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On the whole it was abysmal on 18:02 - Nov 8 with 1811 viewsHerbivore

On the whole it was abysmal on 13:38 - Nov 8 by Chrisd

You keep believing otherwise, but that's fine too.


It's pretty clear that you've realised you can't actually name first team squad players that would struggle to get regular game time in League 2. That's fine, it was a silly claim made in the heat of the moment. It's not very classy to respond the way you have though.

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On the whole it was abysmal on 18:13 - Nov 8 with 1805 viewsChrisd

On the whole it was abysmal on 18:02 - Nov 8 by Herbivore

It's pretty clear that you've realised you can't actually name first team squad players that would struggle to get regular game time in League 2. That's fine, it was a silly claim made in the heat of the moment. It's not very classy to respond the way you have though.


No, I very much stand by what I’ve said. What I have learnt through experience is that if I post an answer to this type of question I’d have to keep justifying my opinion because it must concur with your view, so what’s the point? It’s a lot of wasted time and energy. To be honest, I'm not too sure you know too much about being 'classy', so that's very much a moot point.
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On the whole it was abysmal on 18:15 - Nov 8 with 1803 viewsIpswichBoyBlue

On the whole it was abysmal on 09:30 - Nov 8 by MonkeyAlan

4 4 2 would work much better with the players we have. This 4 4 3 isn't working as we just don't have the personal to play that system. Tapping it around at the back doesn't hurt the opposition. Pompey were quite happy to sit back and watch.


If we play 4-4-3 we will win the league by some distance. Unfortunately, it is 11 a side.
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On the whole it was abysmal on 18:22 - Nov 8 with 1794 viewsIpswichBoyBlue

On the whole it was abysmal on 18:13 - Nov 8 by Chrisd

No, I very much stand by what I’ve said. What I have learnt through experience is that if I post an answer to this type of question I’d have to keep justifying my opinion because it must concur with your view, so what’s the point? It’s a lot of wasted time and energy. To be honest, I'm not too sure you know too much about being 'classy', so that's very much a moot point.
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None of our first team squad would struggle in L2. They are all capable L1 players. The manager however would struggle no matter what league he is in.
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