| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. 09:13 - Nov 12 with 2373 views | MonkeyAlan |
To help prop up sandwich bars, coffee shops etc who arnt doing the trade they were. Good idea? Would our government follow suit if the German's did it? [Post edited 12 Nov 2020 9:19]
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:15 - Nov 12 with 387 views | Mookamoo |
How about we get the likes of Amazon, Google to pay their fair share of tax to help support local high streets and reduce overheads for sandwich shops etc. |  | | |
| The opposite actually.... on 10:16 - Nov 12 with 384 views | footers |
| The opposite actually.... on 09:42 - Nov 12 by Bloots |
...you can claim tax relief for working from home.
I just got about £180 back. |
Indeed. I'm supposed to be doing that today. Apparently it takes just five minutes to do.
We've let a lot of people go during this pandemic because they hot-footed it to somewhere else in the world for months on end and something's now awry with their tax affairs or summat. Seems a bit harsh to me, but I guess the company didn't have much of a choice. |  |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:19 - Nov 12 with 371 views | footers |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:15 - Nov 12 by Mookamoo |
How about we get the likes of Amazon, Google to pay their fair share of tax to help support local high streets and reduce overheads for sandwich shops etc. |
Don't be daft! They already pay enough tax through their employees apparently...And of course once we leave the EU for the sunlit uplands we'll be even less capable of collecting any taxes owed by these multinationals. How convenient. | |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:22 - Nov 12 with 363 views | StokieBlue |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:14 - Nov 12 by hype313 |
Flexible working, the option to split your time accordingly as long as productivity doesn't get compromised, which given what we have seen since March hasn't happened. |
I think what you say is certainly true during the start of the pandemic but there are some studies saying the longer WFH goes on it seems the productivity gains are decreasing or weren't there in the first place. Some research has also seen other issues like lack of connection and engagement to ones team (this is an issue from anecdotal evidence).
https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlin
I am sure there are of course studies that say the exact opposite.
I don't think many companies are going to allow people to dictate their entire work schedule like you are saying, it would be nice but I don't think it will happen. For instance I don't think many companies will allow someone to WFH for two weeks then come in the office a few days then back to WFH for another few weeks.
I guess we will see, I certainly hope that companies retain as much flexible working as possible.
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| The opposite actually.... on 10:24 - Nov 12 with 346 views | StokieBlue |
| The opposite actually.... on 10:16 - Nov 12 by footers |
Indeed. I'm supposed to be doing that today. Apparently it takes just five minutes to do.
We've let a lot of people go during this pandemic because they hot-footed it to somewhere else in the world for months on end and something's now awry with their tax affairs or summat. Seems a bit harsh to me, but I guess the company didn't have much of a choice. |
This has happened a lot. If you spend more than X days out of the country working then all kinds of tax issues start to rear their head.
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:43 - Nov 12 with 323 views | ElderGrizzly |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:32 - Nov 12 by StokieBlue |
I think a lot of people might be surprised around the middle of next year when they are expected to be in the office a lot more than they think. It was already starting to happen in October, the nudge emails and articles from the higher ups saying that WFH didn't produce as much innovation.
Those who have already fled the cities might get annoyed when they are expected back in at least 3 days a week. I do think WFH will be far more frequent and won't be looked on with suspicion by some as it was before but the idea of WFH for 4 days and in the office 1 day or 1 day every two weeks isn't going to be the reality in my opinion.
I guess we will see next year. I do hope that companies retain some of the flexibility they have learnt over the pandemic. It's good for everyone.
SB [Post edited 12 Nov 2020 10:06]
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We’re being told don’t even think about coming to office until January, unless business critical.
I know FCO isn’t exactly innovative by tradition, but the part I lead has done some of its best work and most innovative work during Covid where my entire team has been WFH. It is helped by us all being remote before Covid anyway, but when most of our work involves meeting people face to face all round the world it is still a challenge.
There is still too much of a portrayal of WFH as some kind of doss, when reality is you work longer hours. |  | | |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:48 - Nov 12 with 314 views | StokieBlue |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:43 - Nov 12 by ElderGrizzly |
We’re being told don’t even think about coming to office until January, unless business critical.
I know FCO isn’t exactly innovative by tradition, but the part I lead has done some of its best work and most innovative work during Covid where my entire team has been WFH. It is helped by us all being remote before Covid anyway, but when most of our work involves meeting people face to face all round the world it is still a challenge.
There is still too much of a portrayal of WFH as some kind of doss, when reality is you work longer hours. |
I'm not talking about now or even January - I was citing the middle of next year. We will see how companies handle it, I just think from the small nudges I've been seeing that some people are going to be quite surprised and put off when they are told they need to be in the office sometimes.
I agree with you that there was a historical view of WFH which has hopefully been banished.
SB [Post edited 12 Nov 2020 10:50]
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:49 - Nov 12 with 311 views | BlueBlueBluex2 |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:13 - Nov 12 by StokieBlue |
What is a "WFH" option? Every day? A few times a week?
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Flexi working.
I’ve not been to the office since March now and have just renegotiated my contract to permit a minimum of three days a week WFH when all this is over.
It’s the future. |  | | |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:50 - Nov 12 with 309 views | footers |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 10:43 - Nov 12 by ElderGrizzly |
We’re being told don’t even think about coming to office until January, unless business critical.
I know FCO isn’t exactly innovative by tradition, but the part I lead has done some of its best work and most innovative work during Covid where my entire team has been WFH. It is helped by us all being remote before Covid anyway, but when most of our work involves meeting people face to face all round the world it is still a challenge.
There is still too much of a portrayal of WFH as some kind of doss, when reality is you work longer hours. |
That last part certainly rings true for me. Before the WFH stuff kicked in I could more or less leave work at the office bar any emergencies, but now there's a sort of unspoken expectation for you to answer every email from the moment you wake up until you go to bed.
That being said, my team and the company as a whole have responded really well to the extra demand and we're being more productive than we were before. It sucks not being able to see people outside your immediate working groups or go for a coffee and a bullsh1t, but it's a nice trade off for not having to commute :) | |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 11:42 - Nov 12 with 288 views | monytowbray |
Not really the story. What it is is Deutschebank who have a lot riding on corporate property, deciding a measure we should be actively rewarding to help go green, should actually be punished in their own best interests.
They’ve paid some economists to weigh in on a bias study then got a PR firm to push it.
To call them a bank would be too generous, they’re actually a money laundering front for the super rich, many of which include corporate landlords.
Ask lots of questions, don’t eat the bullshi1t. |  |
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| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 11:57 - Nov 12 with 273 views | GeoffSentence |
| German banks wanting to charge extra tax for home workers. on 09:23 - Nov 12 by itfcjoe |
I think it makes sense in many ways, ultimately those people WFH are generally going to be middle and higher income workers so will be the obvious target.
Put it this way, for those working from home, would you go back to the office if you had to pay a couple of % extra in tax by not doing so? |
As my daily commute would be 125 miles each way, no.
I would feel rather hard done by though.
I also think it is a crp idea. WFH should be encouraged for the benefit ofthe environment and local services, not discouraged in order to prop up London branches of Pret. |  |
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