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Wonderful docu on The Queen Mary just finished on BBC4 (rpt) 23:39 - Nov 12 with 347 viewsRyorry

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07d2wy4/the-queen-mary-greatest-ocean-lin

Her origins on the Clyde & various roles, incl transporting Jewish refugees from Germany & Austria to New York in the late 1930s. Particularly moving was the story of how Commander Robert Irving, one of her captains, held up her sailing for 6 hours at the request of one particular refugee family, the Katzensteins, who were on a train heading to board her at Cherbourg but who were held up when some Gestapo officers boarded the train and stated their papers weren't in order. Ludwig Katzenstein, then age 4, recounted how his father made his way to the front of the train & personally asked the driver to telegraph the ship, which he did - and unbelievably, Cdr Irving did wait for them. Ludwig recounting how it felt to see the Statue of Liberty as they got into New York harbour was something else - "miracles do happen".

Followed by a Timeshift docu 'The Men who built the Liners' - just about to get onto iPlayer - superb stuff.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00nnm7k

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Wonderful docu on The Queen Mary just finished on BBC4 (rpt) on 10:40 - Nov 13 with 266 viewssolemio

Saw this first time round and still remember a lot from it. Very good prog.
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Wonderful docu on The Queen Mary just finished on BBC4 (rpt) on 11:18 - Nov 13 with 256 viewsjaykay

saw a different t.v. doc last night .when channel hopping about how she collided with her support vessel. several hundred lives were lost as she couldn't stop to pick up survivors due to the sub wolf packs and she had thousands of troops on board.

bring back callis ,young footers and let phil ham back in the press box

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Wonderful docu on The Queen Mary just finished on BBC4 (rpt) on 11:35 - Nov 13 with 250 viewsRyorry

Wonderful docu on The Queen Mary just finished on BBC4 (rpt) on 11:18 - Nov 13 by jaykay

saw a different t.v. doc last night .when channel hopping about how she collided with her support vessel. several hundred lives were lost as she couldn't stop to pick up survivors due to the sub wolf packs and she had thousands of troops on board.


That was part of the same docu, and yes, tragic. 337 lives on the support vessel HMS Curacoa, a C-class light cruiser were lost as the QM, which had a stopping distance of 20 miles, was on submarine-losing zig-zag which cut the other vessel in two.

Afterwards, the blame was apportioned 40% to the QM & 60% to the Curacoa. The QM's construction was so strong that her bow was only dented by the collision & she was able to carry on sailing shored up by a bit of cement, with proper repairs being carried out nuch later.

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Wonderful docu on The Queen Mary just finished on BBC4 (rpt) on 13:20 - Nov 13 with 229 viewsjaykay

Wonderful docu on The Queen Mary just finished on BBC4 (rpt) on 11:35 - Nov 13 by Ryorry

That was part of the same docu, and yes, tragic. 337 lives on the support vessel HMS Curacoa, a C-class light cruiser were lost as the QM, which had a stopping distance of 20 miles, was on submarine-losing zig-zag which cut the other vessel in two.

Afterwards, the blame was apportioned 40% to the QM & 60% to the Curacoa. The QM's construction was so strong that her bow was only dented by the collision & she was able to carry on sailing shored up by a bit of cement, with proper repairs being carried out nuch later.


yes , i did see that part. it was either history channel or yesterday channel where i saw it last night

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Wonderful docu on The Queen Mary just finished on BBC4 (rpt) on 18:23 - Nov 13 with 200 viewsRyorry

Wonderful docu on The Queen Mary just finished on BBC4 (rpt) on 13:20 - Nov 13 by jaykay

yes , i did see that part. it was either history channel or yesterday channel where i saw it last night


'Yesterday' probably, v. good at repeating top qual docus.

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