| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" 16:59 - Nov 14 with 3424 views | positivity |
when we played them, apparently. now? |  |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:02 - Nov 14 with 1711 views | backwaywhen |
Crewe were a very good side , MK now have Jerome and he will always score goals in this league. | | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:02 - Nov 14 with 1702 views | BlueBadger |
They're 18th and 19th, so yes, they're rubbish? |  |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:03 - Nov 14 with 1693 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Truth is all teams will slip up against lesser ones at times. We only got 1 point off MK Dons.
However, the thing we need to worry about is getting the points we need and until we can get more against the better teams, we are not going up. |  |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:04 - Nov 14 with 1683 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:02 - Nov 14 by BlueBadger |
They're 18th and 19th, so yes, they're rubbish? |
yet, when we were 1st we were also "rubbish"! | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:05 - Nov 14 with 1668 views | BlueBadger |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:04 - Nov 14 by positivity |
yet, when we were 1st we were also "rubbish"! |
Yes, because both those teams made us look worse than them. | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:07 - Nov 14 with 1654 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:03 - Nov 14 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Truth is all teams will slip up against lesser ones at times. We only got 1 point off MK Dons.
However, the thing we need to worry about is getting the points we need and until we can get more against the better teams, we are not going up. |
we just need the points to get in the top 2 (or top 6), which we're pretty much doing.
doesn't matter who they're against (though it does make it easier!) | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:09 - Nov 14 with 1642 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:05 - Nov 14 by BlueBadger |
Yes, because both those teams made us look worse than them. |
so, by your logic, sunderland (6th) and peterborough (1st) must be rubbish too.
one metric for us, one for our opponents! | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:11 - Nov 14 with 1627 views | BlueBadger |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:09 - Nov 14 by positivity |
so, by your logic, sunderland (6th) and peterborough (1st) must be rubbish too.
one metric for us, one for our opponents! |
In all fairness, it's the third division. It's all rubbish. | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:13 - Nov 14 with 1609 views | jayessess |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:09 - Nov 14 by positivity |
so, by your logic, sunderland (6th) and peterborough (1st) must be rubbish too.
one metric for us, one for our opponents! |
The logic that has us as "rubbish" is that we've been on a downward spiral for 2 seasons and don't look radically different to how we did last year. It's not just because we couldn't get the ball off Crewe or MK Dons for most of the game. |  |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:14 - Nov 14 with 1609 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:07 - Nov 14 by positivity |
we just need the points to get in the top 2 (or top 6), which we're pretty much doing.
doesn't matter who they're against (though it does make it easier!) |
If we finish 3-6th we will need to better 2 of the other teams who do and one of them over two legs. Since we have not beaten a side above 8th in this division since early last season that would seem very far-fetched.
To finish in the top two we would need to improve on our current league position. If we are going to improve on it in the next 6 matches I refer you back to my point in the first paragraph since 3 of those 6 games are against top 8 sides and 1 of the others is against Plymouth (9th). | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:15 - Nov 14 with 1604 views | WD19 |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:04 - Nov 14 by positivity |
yet, when we were 1st we were also "rubbish"! |
The 10 teams around us all have better league form than us. Without exception.
Outside of the league our form is worse still.
Yay. |  | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:15 - Nov 14 with 1599 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
They are all rubbish teams. That is the point. L1 sucks. |  | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:19 - Nov 14 with 1572 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:11 - Nov 14 by BlueBadger |
In all fairness, it's the third division. It's all rubbish. |
maybe we'll go up then! | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:21 - Nov 14 with 1561 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:13 - Nov 14 by jayessess |
The logic that has us as "rubbish" is that we've been on a downward spiral for 2 seasons and don't look radically different to how we did last year. It's not just because we couldn't get the ball off Crewe or MK Dons for most of the game. |
if we're on a "downward spiral" (from struggling championship side to challenging league one side), what the hell are sunderland on?! | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:21 - Nov 14 with 1552 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Also Blackpool were pretty good before we played them, with several on here predicting we'd lose. Then we stuffed them 1-4 and they were apparently rubbish after all. |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:26 - Nov 14 with 1543 views | jayessess |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:21 - Nov 14 by positivity |
if we're on a "downward spiral" (from struggling championship side to challenging league one side), what the hell are sunderland on?! |
From mid-table Championship side (2017-18) to one of the worst Championship sides ever (2018-19) to mid-table in League One (2019-20) is a downward spiral, whatever you make of our current 11-game-old season. Sunderland is also a very badly run football club. | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:27 - Nov 14 with 1537 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:14 - Nov 14 by Nthsuffolkblue |
If we finish 3-6th we will need to better 2 of the other teams who do and one of them over two legs. Since we have not beaten a side above 8th in this division since early last season that would seem very far-fetched.
To finish in the top two we would need to improve on our current league position. If we are going to improve on it in the next 6 matches I refer you back to my point in the first paragraph since 3 of those 6 games are against top 8 sides and 1 of the others is against Plymouth (9th). |
we beat two top 6 teams last month (one was in the cup and came courtesy of our reserve team, but still top 6!)
even if we take the defeatist view of being unable to beat the top 6, we could still maintain our average with 3 wins and 3 draws. i'd rather look at the glass half-full and say 4 of the 6 are at home, and we're yet to lose, draw or let in a goal in the league | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:30 - Nov 14 with 1521 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:15 - Nov 14 by WD19 |
The 10 teams around us all have better league form than us. Without exception.
Outside of the league our form is worse still.
Yay. |
form is temporary, do you mean over 3 games? 11 games? what's your arbitrary number of games to come up with that?
i'd agree that our 2nd and 3rd teams haven't covered themselves in glory in the cups though! if we played those players every week we wouldn't be 3rd... | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:35 - Nov 14 with 1497 views | WD19 |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:30 - Nov 14 by positivity |
form is temporary, do you mean over 3 games? 11 games? what's your arbitrary number of games to come up with that?
i'd agree that our 2nd and 3rd teams haven't covered themselves in glory in the cups though! if we played those players every week we wouldn't be 3rd... |
Whilst I don’t disagree that Lamberts level of class is permanent, I merely glanced at a league table that showed last 5 league results alongside. We were the worst on the page. Not sure why you are prickly about that. | | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:38 - Nov 14 with 1484 views | wkj |
Aiye, Crewe are not a bad side at all. I am not in anyway surprised to see them where they are. |  |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:41 - Nov 14 with 1473 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:26 - Nov 14 by jayessess |
From mid-table Championship side (2017-18) to one of the worst Championship sides ever (2018-19) to mid-table in League One (2019-20) is a downward spiral, whatever you make of our current 11-game-old season. Sunderland is also a very badly run football club. |
2017-18, won 4 games then relegation form until mick left(c42nd best team in england)
2018-19, relegation form (44th)
2019-20, upper mid-table league one (55th)
2020-21, 3rd in league one (47th)
more of a shallow backward tick than a spiral... | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:46 - Nov 14 with 1441 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:35 - Nov 14 by WD19 |
Whilst I don’t disagree that Lamberts level of class is permanent, I merely glanced at a league table that showed last 5 league results alongside. We were the worst on the page. Not sure why you are prickly about that. |
you can pick form to prove most things,
-over 3 games, only charlton in the top 6 have done better, over the season
-over 8-12 (ie this season) we're 4th on form.
i hope lambert's class at this level is permanent, he was top in his last full season! | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:50 - Nov 14 with 1422 views | jayessess |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:41 - Nov 14 by positivity |
2017-18, won 4 games then relegation form until mick left(c42nd best team in england)
2018-19, relegation form (44th)
2019-20, upper mid-table league one (55th)
2020-21, 3rd in league one (47th)
more of a shallow backward tick than a spiral... |
2017-18 12th in the Championship (19 points clear of relegation).
2018-19 24th in the Championship (13 points adrift of safety).
2019-20 11th in League One
2020-21 We've played less than half the league so far.
Dropping 10+ places per season is not a gentle decline, it's a death drop. | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:51 - Nov 14 with 1409 views | bournemouthblue |
If you added some decent strikers to that Crewe side, they'd be very useful |  |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:53 - Nov 14 with 1402 views | gordon |
Don't really understand this thread - When we played Crewe, loads of people posted on here and in the chat that that was exactly how they'd like to see Ipswich play, and again when we played MK Dons the consensus was that they played good football but lacked a cutting edge and we were lucky to get away with a point - it certainly wasn't that they were rubbish (by the standards of the league anyway). |  | | |
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