| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" 16:59 - Nov 14 with 3942 views | positivity |
when we played them, apparently. now? |  |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:59 - Nov 14 with 675 views | jayessess |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:53 - Nov 14 by gordon |
Don't really understand this thread - When we played Crewe, loads of people posted on here and in the chat that that was exactly how they'd like to see Ipswich play, and again when we played MK Dons the consensus was that they played good football but lacked a cutting edge and we were lucky to get away with a point - it certainly wasn't that they were rubbish (by the standards of the league anyway). |
I think the point is that apparently the manager should get a pass when teams with much fewer resources out-play us because they're good teams. |  |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:00 - Nov 14 with 671 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:50 - Nov 14 by jayessess |
2017-18 12th in the Championship (19 points clear of relegation).
2018-19 24th in the Championship (13 points adrift of safety).
2019-20 11th in League One
2020-21 We've played less than half the league so far.
Dropping 10+ places per season is not a gentle decline, it's a death drop. |
nonsense, the decline was well under way in 2017-18.
if you think a 36 game season is indicative, look at mick's last 36 games until he announced his exit,;our final points score was artificially inflated with those freak wins in the first 4 (i think we scored with every shot on target?) and a slight up-tick after mick's exit was announced.
we've played less than the half the league so far, but we're doing better than our finishing spot last season.
if we were dropping 10 places a season we should be 21st by the end. is that what you think our current league position is telling you? it's telling me that we're 3rd! | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:02 - Nov 14 with 659 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:53 - Nov 14 by gordon |
Don't really understand this thread - When we played Crewe, loads of people posted on here and in the chat that that was exactly how they'd like to see Ipswich play, and again when we played MK Dons the consensus was that they played good football but lacked a cutting edge and we were lucky to get away with a point - it certainly wasn't that they were rubbish (by the standards of the league anyway). |
i'm more going by what was said in the chatroom, masses of people flouncing because we couldn't beat "rubbish teams". definitely the consensus amongst a certain type of fan! | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:05 - Nov 14 with 654 views | jayessess |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:00 - Nov 14 by positivity |
nonsense, the decline was well under way in 2017-18.
if you think a 36 game season is indicative, look at mick's last 36 games until he announced his exit,;our final points score was artificially inflated with those freak wins in the first 4 (i think we scored with every shot on target?) and a slight up-tick after mick's exit was announced.
we've played less than the half the league so far, but we're doing better than our finishing spot last season.
if we were dropping 10 places a season we should be 21st by the end. is that what you think our current league position is telling you? it's telling me that we're 3rd! |
If you fancy arbitrarily removing early season games, I've bad news for you about what 2019-20 looks like. | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:05 - Nov 14 with 654 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:59 - Nov 14 by jayessess |
I think the point is that apparently the manager should get a pass when teams with much fewer resources out-play us because they're good teams. |
nope, you misunderstand.
i'm saying we're not as bad as many say we are
i'm saying you'll always have the odd bad result or performance, but as long as we stay up near the top, stay close to 2 points per game then we're doing OK. | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:07 - Nov 14 with 646 views | PJH |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:00 - Nov 14 by positivity |
nonsense, the decline was well under way in 2017-18.
if you think a 36 game season is indicative, look at mick's last 36 games until he announced his exit,;our final points score was artificially inflated with those freak wins in the first 4 (i think we scored with every shot on target?) and a slight up-tick after mick's exit was announced.
we've played less than the half the league so far, but we're doing better than our finishing spot last season.
if we were dropping 10 places a season we should be 21st by the end. is that what you think our current league position is telling you? it's telling me that we're 3rd! |
There was actually no up-tick after Mick's leaving was announced. Four games were played of which two were lost, one drawn and one won(despite the efforts of the North Stand). That is an average of one point per game which is well below the average per game prior to his leaving being announced.
If you rule out those four wins in the first four games,which you seem to be trying to do, then it is closer. |  | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:08 - Nov 14 with 644 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:05 - Nov 14 by jayessess |
If you fancy arbitrarily removing early season games, I've bad news for you about what 2019-20 looks like. |
and makes this season's up-tick even more pronounced!
it's not arbitrary, those were freak results which gave mick an extra 6 months to wreak his havoc on our club | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:10 - Nov 14 with 635 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:07 - Nov 14 by PJH |
There was actually no up-tick after Mick's leaving was announced. Four games were played of which two were lost, one drawn and one won(despite the efforts of the North Stand). That is an average of one point per game which is well below the average per game prior to his leaving being announced.
If you rule out those four wins in the first four games,which you seem to be trying to do, then it is closer. |
his departure was announced before the barnsley game, so that's at least 2 wins. | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:11 - Nov 14 with 630 views | IpswichBoyBlue |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:05 - Nov 14 by positivity |
nope, you misunderstand.
i'm saying we're not as bad as many say we are
i'm saying you'll always have the odd bad result or performance, but as long as we stay up near the top, stay close to 2 points per game then we're doing OK. |
"i'm saying we're not as bad as many say we are". Have you seen us this season? |  | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:12 - Nov 14 with 629 views | PJH |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:08 - Nov 14 by positivity |
and makes this season's up-tick even more pronounced!
it's not arbitrary, those were freak results which gave mick an extra 6 months to wreak his havoc on our club |
Certainly wish that we had that sort of havoc now. | | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:12 - Nov 14 with 631 views | jayessess |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:05 - Nov 14 by positivity |
nope, you misunderstand.
i'm saying we're not as bad as many say we are
i'm saying you'll always have the odd bad result or performance, but as long as we stay up near the top, stay close to 2 points per game then we're doing OK. |
And I'm saying I'm not convinced by our performances so far that we're any better than the team that collapsed from January to March this year. | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:14 - Nov 14 with 625 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:11 - Nov 14 by IpswichBoyBlue |
"i'm saying we're not as bad as many say we are". Have you seen us this season? |
many times, we look like a good league one side, no more, no less. that's pretty encouraging given the ongoing injury debacle.
have you seen how bad many say we are, listen to them and we're lucky to stay up this year" | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:15 - Nov 14 with 619 views | PJH |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:10 - Nov 14 by positivity |
his departure was announced before the barnsley game, so that's at least 2 wins. |
Wrong again.
After his departure was announced we LOST at Birmingham, DREW with Millwall, LOST at Brentford, WON against Barnsley (despite the efforts of the North Stand).
After MM had left we again got 4 points from 4 games. [Post edited 14 Nov 2020 18:16]
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:17 - Nov 14 with 615 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:12 - Nov 14 by PJH |
Certainly wish that we had that sort of havoc now. |
really?
douglas over dozzell?
tabb over bishop?
coke over mcgavin?
i think we're looking in better shape for the future than the ageing journeymen and prehistoric football mick had us playing! | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:20 - Nov 14 with 610 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:15 - Nov 14 by PJH |
Wrong again.
After his departure was announced we LOST at Birmingham, DREW with Millwall, LOST at Brentford, WON against Barnsley (despite the efforts of the North Stand).
After MM had left we again got 4 points from 4 games. [Post edited 14 Nov 2020 18:16]
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ok, my memory was that he'd said he was going before the barnsley game, so I took it from there.
if that's wrong, my "slight up-tick" may have been a dead cat bounce then! however you spin it, we were going downhill fast that season! | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:27 - Nov 14 with 598 views | PJH |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:20 - Nov 14 by positivity |
ok, my memory was that he'd said he was going before the barnsley game, so I took it from there.
if that's wrong, my "slight up-tick" may have been a dead cat bounce then! however you spin it, we were going downhill fast that season! |
Yes, downhill from the lower final position the previous season. | | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:43 - Nov 14 with 578 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:27 - Nov 14 by PJH |
Yes, downhill from the lower final position the previous season. |
we were definitely going downhill that season.
from 4 freak wins (1st)
to relegation form (c21st)
if 10 places over a whole season is a death spiral, what's 20 in less than that?! | |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:49 - Nov 14 with 575 views | longtimefan |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:14 - Nov 14 by positivity |
many times, we look like a good league one side, no more, no less. that's pretty encouraging given the ongoing injury debacle.
have you seen how bad many say we are, listen to them and we're lucky to stay up this year" |
Indeed. I’m no Lambert apologist but people seem to forget we’ve currently been playing without probably our four most influential players from last season. | | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:52 - Nov 14 with 571 views | longtimefan |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:17 - Nov 14 by positivity |
really?
douglas over dozzell?
tabb over bishop?
coke over mcgavin?
i think we're looking in better shape for the future than the ageing journeymen and prehistoric football mick had us playing! |
Are you talking about the bloke who actually introduced Dozzell, Bishop, Downes, Kenlock and Emmanuel to the team? | | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 19:02 - Nov 14 with 562 views | PJH |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:43 - Nov 14 by positivity |
we were definitely going downhill that season.
from 4 freak wins (1st)
to relegation form (c21st)
if 10 places over a whole season is a death spiral, what's 20 in less than that?! |
If the spiral that we are on this season, having been 1st earlier and now 3rd, is not stopped soon then we will finish as low as we did last season.
I thought in one of your earlier posts you were trying to discount those 4 very good wins at the start of 2017/18 but now you seem to want to include them. | | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 19:17 - Nov 14 with 542 views | backwaywhen |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 19:02 - Nov 14 by PJH |
If the spiral that we are on this season, having been 1st earlier and now 3rd, is not stopped soon then we will finish as low as we did last season.
I thought in one of your earlier posts you were trying to discount those 4 very good wins at the start of 2017/18 but now you seem to want to include them. |
Children children come along now ..... time to brush your teeth ! | | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 19:41 - Nov 14 with 532 views | jas0999 |
We were very lucky to beat Crewe. Better side. | | | |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 19:48 - Nov 14 with 527 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:27 - Nov 14 by positivity |
we beat two top 6 teams last month (one was in the cup and came courtesy of our reserve team, but still top 6!)
even if we take the defeatist view of being unable to beat the top 6, we could still maintain our average with 3 wins and 3 draws. i'd rather look at the glass half-full and say 4 of the 6 are at home, and we're yet to lose, draw or let in a goal in the league |
Hold on so our reserves beat a weakened side they put out in the cup? I can only imagine you are referring to Gillingham because we lost to Portsmouth, Fulham and Arsenal kids. Gillingham are 16th in League 1.
The other top 6 team we beat last month? Accrington (11th), Blackpool (15th) or Gillingham (16th). I think you need to look at the league table or did we win an U23 game or something? It is the league that matters and the stat is worrying. [Post edited 14 Nov 2020 19:51]
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 19:49 - Nov 14 with 523 views | BlueBadger |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 17:46 - Nov 14 by positivity |
you can pick form to prove most things,
-over 3 games, only charlton in the top 6 have done better, over the season
-over 8-12 (ie this season) we're 4th on form.
i hope lambert's class at this level is permanent, he was top in his last full season! |
Sadly, that was over ten years ago and he's failed at a host of clubs since then. |  |
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| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 21:19 - Nov 14 with 477 views | positivity |
| crewe and mk were "rubbish teams" on 18:52 - Nov 14 by longtimefan |
Are you talking about the bloke who actually introduced Dozzell, Bishop, Downes, Kenlock and Emmanuel to the team? |
then played his proper blokes ahead of them? that's the one! | |
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