| Nsiala better than we thought? on 12:44 - Nov 15 with 1786 views | monty_radio |
I think it's because when Nsiala and Wilson have played keep-ball as they inch up the pitch,
Wilson is usually slightly ahead of him. |  |
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| Nsiala better than we thought? on 12:52 - Nov 15 with 1750 views | JakeITFC |
Not sure 13 accurate forward passes a game make up for the absolute calamity that he is a defender, unfortunately. |  | | |
| Nsiala better than we thought? on 13:16 - Nov 15 with 1677 views | gordon |
Need data on whether the passes triggered some kind of attack. Otherwise teams like us that keep hold of the ball at the back for too long will look better than we are. |  | | |
| Nsiala better than we thought? on 14:26 - Nov 15 with 1557 views | WD19 |
| Nsiala better than we thought? on 12:44 - Nov 15 by monty_radio |
I think it's because when Nsiala and Wilson have played keep-ball as they inch up the pitch,
Wilson is usually slightly ahead of him. |
Turns out that Dean Lewington is practically Pele too.... |  | | |
| Nsiala better than we thought? on 14:50 - Nov 15 with 1515 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Nsiala better than we thought? on 14:26 - Nov 15 by WD19 |
Turns out that Dean Lewington is practically Pele too.... |
Paul McShane and Richard Keogh are pretty amazing too ( missed out there ). |  | | |
| Nsiala better than we thought? on 15:19 - Nov 15 with 1474 views | GeoffSentence |
Cripes no. This sort of thing shows the limitations of these stats. You only need to watch him saunter slowly forwards, pass 6 feet forward to an under pressure midfielder who has to give it straight back, and do this repeatedly, to see:
a) why he is in that quadrant of the chart
b) why he is no Glenn Hoddle |  |
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| Nsiala better than we thought? on 13:49 - Nov 16 with 1057 views | captainfantastic |
| Nsiala better than we thought? on 13:16 - Nov 15 by gordon |
Need data on whether the passes triggered some kind of attack. Otherwise teams like us that keep hold of the ball at the back for too long will look better than we are. |
Forward passes would generally lead to an attack. Passing around the back wouldn't count towards these.
Hawkins passing stats from CB are hilarious |  |
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| Nsiala better than we thought? on 13:52 - Nov 16 with 1040 views | DanTheMan |
| Nsiala better than we thought? on 13:49 - Nov 16 by captainfantastic |
Forward passes would generally lead to an attack. Passing around the back wouldn't count towards these.
Hawkins passing stats from CB are hilarious |
"Forward passes would generally lead to an attack"
Why would they? If you pass to an under pressure midfielder who has had to come deep into their own half, I don't see how that is very helpful.
Stats can be useful but they do need some context. |  |
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| Nsiala better than we thought? on 13:53 - Nov 16 with 1033 views | Kieran_Knows |
Lets not get ahead of ourselves. |  |
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| Nsiala better than we thought? on 14:02 - Nov 16 with 1007 views | captainfantastic |
| Nsiala better than we thought? on 13:52 - Nov 16 by DanTheMan |
"Forward passes would generally lead to an attack"
Why would they? If you pass to an under pressure midfielder who has had to come deep into their own half, I don't see how that is very helpful.
Stats can be useful but they do need some context. |
So you're saying Nsiala only scores better than our other CB's on passing because he makes safer, simpler passes? | |
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| Nsiala better than we thought? on 14:03 - Nov 16 with 1005 views | Reuser_is_God |
No.
People need to start watching games with there on eyes, not through some geeks excel sheet. |  |
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| Nsiala better than we thought? on 14:12 - Nov 16 with 986 views | DanTheMan |
| Nsiala better than we thought? on 14:02 - Nov 16 by captainfantastic |
So you're saying Nsiala only scores better than our other CB's on passing because he makes safer, simpler passes? |
Potentially but it's very hard to tell, all we've got here is a percentage.
If Nsiala is making 4 of these passes a game (out of the approximately 8 trillion passes between the backline) and 3 of them are successful but go nowhere then you've got your 75% and it's still completely useless.
Someone else mentioned passes that actually lead to an attacking move being a better metric.
But at the end of the day, I think all of us having watched this season can probably conclude he is not exactly a marauding centre back by any means. And even if he was, his penchant for mistakes does not help matters. | |
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| Nsiala better than we thought? on 17:59 - Nov 16 with 807 views | wkj |
I wouldn't call him an outright bad player, much of what he does is actually quite good. However, he's routinely doing things to be a liability which can, and on a number of occasions have, cost us games. |  |
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