| Things aren't looking good in Italy 19:40 - Nov 18 with 866 views | StokieBlue |
It seems the healthcare system there is overstretched and can't cope with the surge in C19.
They have doubled the number of ICU beds and increased their number of ventilators but there aren't enough ICU specialists to ramp up in the same way and it's causing huge problems:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/18/brutal-second-wave-of-covid-expose
The last 2 days have been 731 and 753 deaths. It also seems that healthcare workers are being discriminated against which I find incredible:
"Much like in other countries, Italians clapped and sang from their balconies as they supported healthcare workers during the early days of the pandemic.
Then came a rise in discrimination as people considered them to be carriers of the virus. According to a survey led by Grasselli and other colleagues in Lombardy in the spring, 25% of the 627 medics interviewed across the region reported being targets of discrimination or aggression."
Awful.
SB
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| Things aren't looking good in Italy on 19:45 - Nov 18 with 825 views | Ace_High1 |
Sad but not surprising.
I was saying a month or two back how come they were doing so well when us, Germany, France, Spain all seemed to be spiking again.
The daily vaccine news is all positive, so fingers crossed! |  | | |
| Things aren't looking good in Italy on 19:48 - Nov 18 with 804 views | bluelagos |
Any knowledge on the geographic spread? Last time it was concentrated in the north, wondering if that's the case again? |  |
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| Things aren't looking good in Italy on 19:51 - Nov 18 with 800 views | eastangliaisblue |
| Things aren't looking good in Italy on 19:48 - Nov 18 by bluelagos |
Any knowledge on the geographic spread? Last time it was concentrated in the north, wondering if that's the case again? |
I believe a lot of the cases are centered in the Calabria region. Being in the south the health care system is not as good as the north, hence why they are struggling. |  | | |
| Things aren't looking good in Italy on 19:52 - Nov 18 with 796 views | StokieBlue |
| Things aren't looking good in Italy on 19:48 - Nov 18 by bluelagos |
Any knowledge on the geographic spread? Last time it was concentrated in the north, wondering if that's the case again? |
It's Lombardy and the north again that are getting hit the hardest I believe but this time it is also affecting other regions as well.
"Italy registered over 32,000 new coronavirus infections on Tuesday. Lombardy is still the worst affected region but while the pandemic was mostly constricted to the north during the first wave, the virus is now raging across the country and seriously testing the ability of hospitals, especially those in the poorer south, to deal with it."
From the Guardian.
SB [Post edited 18 Nov 2020 19:54]
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| Things aren't looking good in Italy on 19:54 - Nov 18 with 808 views | BlueBadger |
Part of the issue they've had in Italy with demand is that, as a healthcare culture, they don't appear to have a particularly strong grasp of the concept of the 'advanced wish discussion' and 'ceilings of care' as in 'who is it appropriate to admit to ITU and/or 'do everything' with'.
They've historically worked on the basis of 'first come, first served', which meant that their ITU capacity was overwhelmed, very, very quickly back in February/March because they'd filled up with people who people that most physicians over here wouldn't even think of referring to ITU, because they were too frail to start with to be able to cope with the added strain that intubation, invasive ventilation and monitoring, dialysis and advanced cardiac support places upon the body.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/italian-doctors-propose-intensive-care-age-l [Post edited 18 Nov 2020 19:58]
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