| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent 10:37 - Nov 21 with 4188 views | Illinoisblue |
Just upgraded from an iPhone 7 and wow, what a difference |  |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:25 - Nov 21 with 963 views | Trequartista |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 13:51 - Nov 21 by DanTheMan |
That's because it probably uses bluetooth features that are not available on older software.
Making everything backwards compatible for years and years and years causes all kinds of technical issues. |
I accept that to a degree, but phones are made not just for an elite band of technology enthusiasts, they are for mass consumption across all ages. Society demands more and more that you have to have a phone, and they need to be affordable on a long-term basis.
You often hear people criticising those who plead poverty yet can "still afford the latest phone". Well it's not entirely their fault that they are being forced to buy the latest phone, when an older phone more within their means simply stops working, |  |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:27 - Nov 21 with 957 views | Bluefish |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:25 - Nov 21 by Trequartista |
I accept that to a degree, but phones are made not just for an elite band of technology enthusiasts, they are for mass consumption across all ages. Society demands more and more that you have to have a phone, and they need to be affordable on a long-term basis.
You often hear people criticising those who plead poverty yet can "still afford the latest phone". Well it's not entirely their fault that they are being forced to buy the latest phone, when an older phone more within their means simply stops working, |
They still make calls |  |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:29 - Nov 21 with 956 views | SpruceMoose |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:25 - Nov 21 by Trequartista |
I accept that to a degree, but phones are made not just for an elite band of technology enthusiasts, they are for mass consumption across all ages. Society demands more and more that you have to have a phone, and they need to be affordable on a long-term basis.
You often hear people criticising those who plead poverty yet can "still afford the latest phone". Well it's not entirely their fault that they are being forced to buy the latest phone, when an older phone more within their means simply stops working, |
I would say that if you're still using an iPhone 6 at this point then it has indeed proved itself to be affordable on a long term basis. iPhone 6 came out six years ago. Most people use their phones on and off all day every day. On that basis I'd argue that you haven't had a bad deal. |  |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:31 - Nov 21 with 952 views | tonybied |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:25 - Nov 21 by Trequartista |
I accept that to a degree, but phones are made not just for an elite band of technology enthusiasts, they are for mass consumption across all ages. Society demands more and more that you have to have a phone, and they need to be affordable on a long-term basis.
You often hear people criticising those who plead poverty yet can "still afford the latest phone". Well it's not entirely their fault that they are being forced to buy the latest phone, when an older phone more within their means simply stops working, |
TVs, consoles, PCs, WiFi routers these are all mass consumption items as well but you don't expect a 6 year old TV to be able to decode 4k images, a PlayStation 4 to be able to play PlayStation 5 games, a six year old pc to play the latest games and a six year old router to be WiFi 6 compatible. Why is it any different for a phone? |  | | |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:32 - Nov 21 with 950 views | Bluefish |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:29 - Nov 21 by SpruceMoose |
I would say that if you're still using an iPhone 6 at this point then it has indeed proved itself to be affordable on a long term basis. iPhone 6 came out six years ago. Most people use their phones on and off all day every day. On that basis I'd argue that you haven't had a bad deal. |
I'm just annoyed because my Austin allegro won't connect up to those tesla superchargers | |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:35 - Nov 21 with 948 views | SpruceMoose |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:32 - Nov 21 by Bluefish |
I'm just annoyed because my Austin allegro won't connect up to those tesla superchargers |
This has been my most enjoyable consumer complaint on here since Bully was complaining about CD racks. | |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:38 - Nov 21 with 944 views | DanTheMan |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:25 - Nov 21 by Trequartista |
I accept that to a degree, but phones are made not just for an elite band of technology enthusiasts, they are for mass consumption across all ages. Society demands more and more that you have to have a phone, and they need to be affordable on a long-term basis.
You often hear people criticising those who plead poverty yet can "still afford the latest phone". Well it's not entirely their fault that they are being forced to buy the latest phone, when an older phone more within their means simply stops working, |
Your phone hasn't stopped working, it's not compatible. There's a difference. |  |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:47 - Nov 21 with 938 views | Trequartista |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:38 - Nov 21 by DanTheMan |
Your phone hasn't stopped working, it's not compatible. There's a difference. |
OK apps have stopped working if we're going to be pedantic | |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:56 - Nov 21 with 929 views | Trequartista |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:21 - Nov 21 by DanTheMan |
"What bleeding edge technology was absolutely necessary in this app that the latest apple product of 6 years ago couldn't handle"
Bluetooth low energy? Feck me, try doing even the smallest amount of research. |
You're missing the point entirely. I am not doubting they have put technologies in it that render it unusable for a product of 6 years ago, i am saying they were not absolutely necessary, they could have made something everyone could use (Unless you are saying that in 2014 it would have been impossible to create a test and trace app with the technology of that year which i find highly unlikely)
This app is more essential for older people as well who now have to fork out hundreds of pounds to get a new phone. It's just one big money making machine. | |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:57 - Nov 21 with 927 views | SpruceMoose |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:47 - Nov 21 by Trequartista |
OK apps have stopped working if we're going to be pedantic |
It's like buying a DVD and complaining your VHS player won't work with it. | |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:59 - Nov 21 with 927 views | Trequartista |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:29 - Nov 21 by SpruceMoose |
I would say that if you're still using an iPhone 6 at this point then it has indeed proved itself to be affordable on a long term basis. iPhone 6 came out six years ago. Most people use their phones on and off all day every day. On that basis I'd argue that you haven't had a bad deal. |
It's 6 years old, not 26, just 6!
And i haven't had it 6 years either, its refurbished, the as new price is not justifiable. | |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 15:00 - Nov 21 with 927 views | Trequartista |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:57 - Nov 21 by SpruceMoose |
It's like buying a DVD and complaining your VHS player won't work with it. |
Was the lifespan of VHS just 6 years? No. | |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 15:08 - Nov 21 with 923 views | SpruceMoose |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:59 - Nov 21 by Trequartista |
It's 6 years old, not 26, just 6!
And i haven't had it 6 years either, its refurbished, the as new price is not justifiable. |
I'm not sure what you're complaining about to be honest. Technology advances quickly and as such you buy the device you can afford/judge reasonable value at the time you're looking for a phone.
You don't buy a device second hand and then half a decade later expect the manufacturer to keep upgrading it to the latest technology for free (even if that was technologically possible). It still performs the vast majority of functions it's designed to do and the number of people out there still using that phone is ever dwindling. You can also buy a different new phone for a fraction of the price of an iPhone.
If you're buying second hand phone then it's a bit much to then complain that it doesn't have all the advanced featured of the newest device. If you want the newest features buy the newest device.
It's all a bit wanting the moon on a stick.
Anyway, fook it. 1-0 down. | |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 15:11 - Nov 21 with 918 views | Trequartista |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 15:08 - Nov 21 by SpruceMoose |
I'm not sure what you're complaining about to be honest. Technology advances quickly and as such you buy the device you can afford/judge reasonable value at the time you're looking for a phone.
You don't buy a device second hand and then half a decade later expect the manufacturer to keep upgrading it to the latest technology for free (even if that was technologically possible). It still performs the vast majority of functions it's designed to do and the number of people out there still using that phone is ever dwindling. You can also buy a different new phone for a fraction of the price of an iPhone.
If you're buying second hand phone then it's a bit much to then complain that it doesn't have all the advanced featured of the newest device. If you want the newest features buy the newest device.
It's all a bit wanting the moon on a stick.
Anyway, fook it. 1-0 down. |
Well i disagree for reasons already given so think we've exhausted it and it's been a cordial discussion, I take all the points onboard, and i've got that off my chest and even provided some amusement, so all good.
Apart from the scoreline. | |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 15:12 - Nov 21 with 914 views | SpruceMoose |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 15:11 - Nov 21 by Trequartista |
Well i disagree for reasons already given so think we've exhausted it and it's been a cordial discussion, I take all the points onboard, and i've got that off my chest and even provided some amusement, so all good.
Apart from the scoreline. |
Lambert and Big Tech out! [Post edited 21 Nov 2020 15:13]
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 17:17 - Nov 21 with 897 views | Churchman |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 13:55 - Nov 21 by SpruceMoose |
Can't believe I couldn't play RDR2 on my Commodore 64. What a rip off. |
I had one of those. Dropped a cup of coffee and later mushroom chop suey all over it and in it. The thing still worked, |  | | |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 17:20 - Nov 21 with 896 views | Swansea_Blue |
Still rocking my iPhone 5. Going strong and it's not the size of a house brick to carry around. |  |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 17:41 - Nov 21 with 889 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 12:09 - Nov 21 by Superblue95 |
Think I’m still on a 6. Halfway there I guess |
"Whoa! You're halfway there, Whoa-0a! Livin' on a Prayer!"
I guess you bought it on a Pray As You Go deal, then.
Although the instructions will say that the case is waterproof, they are easy to drop because they're Slippery When Wet.
Just a joke, it's good to be Bon Jovial sometimes.
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 17:51 - Nov 21 with 887 views | DinDjarin |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 10:38 - Nov 21 by Bluefish |
Probably catching up with the Samsung s7 or s8 |
Which are still catching up with the Huawei |  | | |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 17:59 - Nov 21 with 880 views | wkj |
Im quite impressed with the Google Pixel 4A camera, not bad for people in the "budget" smartphone arena (£350 ish)
I always buy my phones upfront and never over the 24 month contract, so can't stomach stumping up over a grand for the flagships. [Post edited 21 Nov 2020 18:01]
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 18:04 - Nov 21 with 873 views | thebooks |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 17:20 - Nov 21 by Swansea_Blue |
Still rocking my iPhone 5. Going strong and it's not the size of a house brick to carry around. |
Blimey, that's good going. I've got the old SE, which is a 5s with a modern chip, and that runs really well, but I'm surprised the 5 works as it's — what? — 8 years old now?
The 12 mini looks brilliant. Smaller phones are better — that's what I'll be buying next.
But I agree with the dude arguing that phones should last longer — there's no physical reason for his phone not to work.
Ironically enough, Apple are relatively good on this. Any new device will get updates for 5 years, and probably work OK after that for a bit. I do have a 2013 iPad that's still good for browsing, email, Netflix etc. |  | | |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 18:05 - Nov 21 with 875 views | DanTheMan |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 14:56 - Nov 21 by Trequartista |
You're missing the point entirely. I am not doubting they have put technologies in it that render it unusable for a product of 6 years ago, i am saying they were not absolutely necessary, they could have made something everyone could use (Unless you are saying that in 2014 it would have been impossible to create a test and trace app with the technology of that year which i find highly unlikely)
This app is more essential for older people as well who now have to fork out hundreds of pounds to get a new phone. It's just one big money making machine. |
Look, if you don't know how this technology works you really shouldn't just assume that you know what you're talking about
Pre-BLE Bluetooth is incredibly battery intensive. It would have just used all of the power incredibly quickly, meaning everyone would have uninstalled it.
Would it have been impossible to do? No. It just wouldn't have worked very well.
Now it is possible for Apple to go back and try and patch BLE into iOS but it just would not be worth their time, if it would have even worked at all.
If you care about keeping a phone up to date, get an Android and learn how to patch your phone yourself. | |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 18:56 - Nov 21 with 855 views | Trequartista |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 18:05 - Nov 21 by DanTheMan |
Look, if you don't know how this technology works you really shouldn't just assume that you know what you're talking about
Pre-BLE Bluetooth is incredibly battery intensive. It would have just used all of the power incredibly quickly, meaning everyone would have uninstalled it.
Would it have been impossible to do? No. It just wouldn't have worked very well.
Now it is possible for Apple to go back and try and patch BLE into iOS but it just would not be worth their time, if it would have even worked at all.
If you care about keeping a phone up to date, get an Android and learn how to patch your phone yourself. |
So are you saying if the pandemic had struck in 2014, we wouldn't have been able to create a functioning test and trace app that wouldn't kill the battery? | |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 19:01 - Nov 21 with 847 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 11:21 - Nov 21 by Illinoisblue |
My five year old iPad is pretty much useless now. As are a pair of shoes I bought five years ago. Buy use replace. It’s what we do. |
At work I sometimes drive a 55 year old diesel tractor. Maybe they should make an electric one you replace every 5 years to save the planet! |  |
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| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 20:43 - Nov 21 with 819 views | tonybied |
| The camera on the iPhone 12 is quite excellent on 18:56 - Nov 21 by Trequartista |
So are you saying if the pandemic had struck in 2014, we wouldn't have been able to create a functioning test and trace app that wouldn't kill the battery? |
Finally, you seem to understand technological advancement!
Yes, much the same as if the pandemic had got in the 90's there would've been no such thing as phone apps or Bluetooth and there wouldn't be the remotest chance of tracking contacts via technology. | | | |
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