| Be more positive 10:15 - Nov 22 with 4321 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
That’s my message. We are 3rd after 12 games. Unless I’m looking at the table upside down, I don’t see what Lambert could improve or change right now that suddenly takes us where after 12 games... 3rd?
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| Be more positive on 11:02 - Nov 22 with 1510 views | BlueBadger |
| Be more positive on 10:56 - Nov 22 by patrickswell |
There was no luck in any of those matches. We gutted it out, stayed strong and took chances. We didn’t get a leg up from the referee - although Sam Ricketts felt they should have had three penalties, which is one more than we should have had.
We also need to stop harping back to last season. I think they are trying to build solid foundations, but it would help if we weren’t losing player after player to injuries, COVID isolation, suspension etc. |
Solid foundations?
Our starting line up yesterday included four players over 30 and a loanee. The style of play is deeply dysfunctional and the manager is unwilling to take a chance on altering his tactics if they're not working and only throws in promising young players if they are loanees or he has no option. |  |
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| Be more positive on 11:03 - Nov 22 with 1509 views | noggin |
| Be more positive on 10:56 - Nov 22 by BlueBadger |
It was because we were playing moribund football and stagnating in the Championship. Now, we're playing moribund football and languishing in the third division. |
To be fair, I was equally frustrated with Mick in the end. |  |
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| Be more positive on 11:03 - Nov 22 with 1507 views | StokieBlue |
| Be more positive on 10:54 - Nov 22 by SomethingBlue |
The idea that there's a significant amount of "we are third, all is well" stuff is serious straw man territory though. |
It's exactly what a couple of posters are saying in this thread, the ones I've responded to.
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| Be more positive on 11:03 - Nov 22 with 1508 views | BlueBadger |
| Be more positive on 10:59 - Nov 22 by patrickswell |
Which comes back to the self-defeating nature of pursuing ITFC related “purity” while sitting where we are currently. |
I don't think that wanting more than 'just about getting away with it in the third division whilst playing terrible football' is massively entitled and unreasonable, to be honest. | |
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| Be more positive on 11:03 - Nov 22 with 1503 views | patrickswell |
| Be more positive on 10:48 - Nov 22 by StokieBlue |
I've not seen Peterborough play, I don't know if they are in a false position or not. You've based your entire post on results when people are pointing out that results can be false and hide a longer-term trend of poor performances which will bite that team at some point.
If you want to base your opinion on results (which isn't the full picture) then recent they have smashed Shrewsbury at home and beaten Hull away.
It's not snobbishness, it's realism. We didn't deserve to win and all this "we are 3rd, all is well" is just heads in the sand stuff. We just don't look like dominating games against anyone and it order to win a league or get out of a division that is what we need to do.
SB [Post edited 22 Nov 2020 10:50]
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We dominated Blackpool who beat Peterborough.
Crazy game, football... |  | | |
| Be more positive on 11:04 - Nov 22 with 1498 views | BlueBadger |
| Be more positive on 11:03 - Nov 22 by noggin |
To be fair, I was equally frustrated with Mick in the end. |
He definitely stayed on a season too long and we missed a massive opportunity to properly restructure the club to be able to build properly on a budget when he went. | |
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| Be more positive on 11:05 - Nov 22 with 1497 views | Keno |
| Be more positive on 11:02 - Nov 22 by BlueBadger |
Solid foundations?
Our starting line up yesterday included four players over 30 and a loanee. The style of play is deeply dysfunctional and the manager is unwilling to take a chance on altering his tactics if they're not working and only throws in promising young players if they are loanees or he has no option. |
Lambert build solid foundations .....
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| Be more positive on 11:08 - Nov 22 with 1479 views | IpswichKnight |
| Be more positive on 10:53 - Nov 22 by N2_Blue |
Danny Cowley? Why
I really don't get the appeal at all. Managers with a good record at one club is not a good indicator. Hurst, Keane, Jewell and Lambert have all had successes at one club.
He struggled at Huddersfield and i just don't like his style and don't think he is the right man at all.
Now Paul Cook....he looks ideal to me. |
He kept a poor Huddersfield side in the championship which is more than the fraud Lambert did with us.
They are pragmatists they will play with what they have, they played it on the deck at Concord in the National league. They are also local and out of work.
I sadly expect both Hull and Charlton to beat us this week coming. |  | | |
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| Be more positive on 11:08 - Nov 22 with 1473 views | patrickswell |
| Be more positive on 10:48 - Nov 22 by BlueBadger |
For every game like that though, there's one like yesterday and Crewe where we deserve nothing.
Blaming the officials is yet another way of ignoring what's going on with US, we have a deeply dysfunctional style of play that's only 'working' because most of the sides we've played have been so dreadful and a lot of us fear, with some justification, that the wheels are about to come off.
Again. |
“A lot of us hope, with some justification, that the wheels are about to come off.”
Just fixing that for you. | | | |
| Be more positive on 11:13 - Nov 22 with 1448 views | pointofblue |
| Be more positive on 11:08 - Nov 22 by patrickswell |
“A lot of us hope, with some justification, that the wheels are about to come off.”
Just fixing that for you. |
No supporter of Ipswich Town is hoping for the wheels to come off. However, if you’re seeing a car being driven along the road with only three attached it’s not being overly critical to say it has a problem.
ETA - ‘a’ not ‘an’ problem [Post edited 22 Nov 2020 11:18]
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| Be more positive on 11:15 - Nov 22 with 1442 views | HealysBackPocket |
| Be more positive on 11:13 - Nov 22 by pointofblue |
No supporter of Ipswich Town is hoping for the wheels to come off. However, if you’re seeing a car being driven along the road with only three attached it’s not being overly critical to say it has a problem.
ETA - ‘a’ not ‘an’ problem [Post edited 22 Nov 2020 11:18]
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Awfully generous to give us three functioning wheels currently! I'd liken us to one of those stunt cars that drive on two wheels - all fine and dandy when upright but a slight wobble and it's all going to end in tears. |  | | |
| Be more positive on 11:22 - Nov 22 with 1423 views | patrickswell |
I have to leave now to do some work. In conclusion, I will say that we are where we deserve to be in the table, because we’ve worked hard for those wins even in games when we haven’t been at our best. An improvement is needed this week for the two big tests coming up. Without that improvement, we will probably lose. But if we ally that improvement to the determination and grit we’ve shown in some of these wins which I’m told we deserved nothing from, we can have a good week. | | | |
| Be more positive on 11:23 - Nov 22 with 1421 views | eireblue |
| Be more positive on 10:56 - Nov 22 by BlueBadger |
It was because we were playing moribund football and stagnating in the Championship. Now, we're playing moribund football and languishing in the third division. |
To languish, perchance to stagnate aye, there's the rub,
For in that sleep of stagnation, what dreams may have come. |  | | |
| Be more positive on 11:27 - Nov 22 with 1413 views | bracknell_blue |
| Be more positive on 10:26 - Nov 22 by IPSWICHFANITFC |
There’s always improvements to be had game on game and I’m not saying we deserved it, but we won the game at the end of the day and that’s 3 more points to getting out of this league.
Here’s some positives
- 3 points
- 6 home wins out of 6
- Goals from midfield - and that’s without our two top scorers on the pitch
- 1st goal conceded at home in the league
- 3rd in the league - that’s all I can ask for with a quarter of the season played |
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only behind 2nd placed team on goals scored and with a game in hand. |  |
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| Be more positive on 11:27 - Nov 22 with 1411 views | patrickswell |
| Be more positive on 11:02 - Nov 22 by BlueBadger |
Solid foundations?
Our starting line up yesterday included four players over 30 and a loanee. The style of play is deeply dysfunctional and the manager is unwilling to take a chance on altering his tactics if they're not working and only throws in promising young players if they are loanees or he has no option. |
Yes, solid foundations - I think the balance of the side has been generally pretty good this season, albeit compromised slightly by injuries, COVID isolations.
Of the four over 30s named yesterday, 2 are automatic selections based on their performances this season (Chambers and Ward) .Judge And Sears did not distinguish themselves I agree, though both should have scored. I’d also say that 4 over 30s in a starting 11 isn’t exactly in the realms of Paul Jewell picking 9 of them at Millwall back in the day.
I suspect Woolfenden will be back in for McGuinness on Tuesday. | | | |
| Be more positive on 12:30 - Nov 22 with 1387 views | BlueBadger |
| Be more positive on 11:22 - Nov 22 by patrickswell |
I have to leave now to do some work. In conclusion, I will say that we are where we deserve to be in the table, because we’ve worked hard for those wins even in games when we haven’t been at our best. An improvement is needed this week for the two big tests coming up. Without that improvement, we will probably lose. But if we ally that improvement to the determination and grit we’ve shown in some of these wins which I’m told we deserved nothing from, we can have a good week. |
Yep, its fair to say that Paul Lambert is wholly deserving of being in the top half of the third division, given his efforts here. | |
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| Be more positive on 12:32 - Nov 22 with 1386 views | BlueBadger |
| Be more positive on 11:01 - Nov 22 by Keno |
but before Lambert arrived we were playing crap football in a higher division
now we are playing crap football in the third tier of English football
and some want us to rejoice and be happy
what a time to be a Town fan |
Weirdly, the people who want us to be happy with crap football in the third division are also the same people who were saying that mid-table Championship football was entirely unacceptable.
I don't get it, mediocrity is mediocrity, regardless of if it's happening under 'your man' or not. | |
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| Be more positive on 12:33 - Nov 22 with 1388 views | BlueBadger |
| Be more positive on 11:27 - Nov 22 by patrickswell |
Yes, solid foundations - I think the balance of the side has been generally pretty good this season, albeit compromised slightly by injuries, COVID isolations.
Of the four over 30s named yesterday, 2 are automatic selections based on their performances this season (Chambers and Ward) .Judge And Sears did not distinguish themselves I agree, though both should have scored. I’d also say that 4 over 30s in a starting 11 isn’t exactly in the realms of Paul Jewell picking 9 of them at Millwall back in the day.
I suspect Woolfenden will be back in for McGuinness on Tuesday. |
It's pretty laughable to claim that the side is balanced when we're constantly playing people out of position to accommodate the always-missing Judge. | |
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| Be more positive on 12:47 - Nov 22 with 1371 views | lazyblue |
Got to agree, didn’t play well yesterday but look at injuries during week to key players, the injuries during the game which disrupted us and the loss of forward thinking Dozzell.
Classic Ipswich fans calling for managers head when joint second in bloody league. If it changes then fair enough but at the moment it’s ok. | | | |
| Be more positive on 15:09 - Nov 22 with 1323 views | TheBoyBlue |
I think people - myself included - are worried about how we very nearly dropped points against one of the poorest teams in this division and would've done if it hadn't been for some sheer good fortune (although I don't deny that we have deserved that!). It is patently obvious that we aren't going to get much from 7/8 of the better teams in this division (I'll be amazed if we get more than one or two points from the next two games) and so we need every possible available point from the rest.
Last season we had a similar evening against Wimbledon. Won 2-1 in the last minute, people went nuts, saying how it showed that we were great team that could win games by playing badly, whereas it was a warning sign that things weren't right. We ignored those warning signs and look how it turned out.
We don't want to make the same mistake again this season. Let's not just gloss over this and say everything's fine because we won and then allow old attitudes to sneak in. [Post edited 22 Nov 2020 15:15]
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| Be more positive on 16:54 - Nov 22 with 1283 views | Herbivore |
| Be more positive on 11:27 - Nov 22 by patrickswell |
Yes, solid foundations - I think the balance of the side has been generally pretty good this season, albeit compromised slightly by injuries, COVID isolations.
Of the four over 30s named yesterday, 2 are automatic selections based on their performances this season (Chambers and Ward) .Judge And Sears did not distinguish themselves I agree, though both should have scored. I’d also say that 4 over 30s in a starting 11 isn’t exactly in the realms of Paul Jewell picking 9 of them at Millwall back in the day.
I suspect Woolfenden will be back in for McGuinness on Tuesday. |
The balance of the side has been pretty good? We're the oldest team in the league as per a thread on here the other day. The manager constantly shoehorns Judge into the side ahead more talented and dynamic young players. I know you want to be optimistic and I understand why, but it feels like a whole lot of straw clutching. We aren't playing well and there's no signs of progress or building anything. |  |
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| Be more positive on 17:45 - Nov 22 with 1256 views | jimmyvet |
| Be more positive on 11:22 - Nov 22 by patrickswell |
I have to leave now to do some work. In conclusion, I will say that we are where we deserve to be in the table, because we’ve worked hard for those wins even in games when we haven’t been at our best. An improvement is needed this week for the two big tests coming up. Without that improvement, we will probably lose. But if we ally that improvement to the determination and grit we’ve shown in some of these wins which I’m told we deserved nothing from, we can have a good week. |
Good post 👠and points well made. We have been very hit and miss but we are 3rd and I will take that. | | | |
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