| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here 08:01 - Nov 25 with 1901 views | itfcjoe |
And it is all fair
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/stu-says-ipswich-0-3-hull-1-6944128
Paul Lambert is either gas lighting us all or completely delusional. And I don’t know which is worse.
Always we hear about how ‘football wise’ he is pleased with how the team ‘dominates the ball’ and that he ‘can’t ask for anything more’.
At times, you begin to question your own sanity. Maybe it’s not been that bad? But then you trust your own judgement again. |  |
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:08 - Nov 25 with 1549 views | homer_123 |
Not sure he's going in heavy Joe - merely reporting the 'facts'. |  |
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:09 - Nov 25 with 1551 views | JakeITFC |
I don’t think that is objectively untrue tbf - first half yesterday we definitely did control the game for pretty much the entirety of minutes 2-45. The problem is that there is absolutely no point to doing that if we create nothing with it and give up chances so easily.
It has been our problem since the very first game in this league - we generally have enough quality to bundle one or two goals together against the bad teams in this division, and our lucky that they are bad at finishing and so don’t punish our mistakes at the back. As soon as we face a team that is semi-competent (in either box) we are completely undone.
It does give some sort of hope that the players have an idea of how to keep and move the ball such that a new manager would have a genuine chance of turning them into a half decent team, but it clearly isn’t working as it stands. |  | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:09 - Nov 25 with 1544 views | gordon |
Good to see that someone is calling it what it is. |  | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:12 - Nov 25 with 1512 views | Chrisd |
Good on Stuart Watson, it’s really difficult to disagree with anything he has written there. I sensed listening to the KOA podcast on Monday evening that even he was turning. He’s normally quite diplomatic with his responses and shows reasoning, but his thoughts were a little more opinionated and forthright. PL is completely delusional, Trump-esque with his comments. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 8:13]
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:15 - Nov 25 with 1479 views | tractorboy1978 |
You've got to hope Klug and O'Neill are in ME's ear telling him it is time for a change.
I reckon if you ran a poll now you'd get a comprehensive 90%+ 'Lambert out' result. | | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:19 - Nov 25 with 1433 views | Herbivore |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:09 - Nov 25 by JakeITFC |
I don’t think that is objectively untrue tbf - first half yesterday we definitely did control the game for pretty much the entirety of minutes 2-45. The problem is that there is absolutely no point to doing that if we create nothing with it and give up chances so easily.
It has been our problem since the very first game in this league - we generally have enough quality to bundle one or two goals together against the bad teams in this division, and our lucky that they are bad at finishing and so don’t punish our mistakes at the back. As soon as we face a team that is semi-competent (in either box) we are completely undone.
It does give some sort of hope that the players have an idea of how to keep and move the ball such that a new manager would have a genuine chance of turning them into a half decent team, but it clearly isn’t working as it stands. |
Having lots of the ball and controlling the game are two entirely different things and people need to start realising that. We often controlled games under Mick with less than 50% possession. Wycombe controlled the game at PR last season with about 30% possession. We didn't control the game last night, Hull happily let us have the ball and waited for us to shoot ourselves in the foot. |  |
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:26 - Nov 25 with 1380 views | PJH |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:19 - Nov 25 by Herbivore |
Having lots of the ball and controlling the game are two entirely different things and people need to start realising that. We often controlled games under Mick with less than 50% possession. Wycombe controlled the game at PR last season with about 30% possession. We didn't control the game last night, Hull happily let us have the ball and waited for us to shoot ourselves in the foot. |
Yes our CD-GK-CD possession triangle was a threat to our own goal but not too much threat to theirs.
You are quite right because just because you have the lions share of the ball does not necessarily mean that you have control of the game, not until the day that possession stats decide a result and not goals scored/conceded. |  | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:29 - Nov 25 with 1361 views | homer_123 |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:09 - Nov 25 by JakeITFC |
I don’t think that is objectively untrue tbf - first half yesterday we definitely did control the game for pretty much the entirety of minutes 2-45. The problem is that there is absolutely no point to doing that if we create nothing with it and give up chances so easily.
It has been our problem since the very first game in this league - we generally have enough quality to bundle one or two goals together against the bad teams in this division, and our lucky that they are bad at finishing and so don’t punish our mistakes at the back. As soon as we face a team that is semi-competent (in either box) we are completely undone.
It does give some sort of hope that the players have an idea of how to keep and move the ball such that a new manager would have a genuine chance of turning them into a half decent team, but it clearly isn’t working as it stands. |
I think this very much depends on how you define controlling.
If you define it as having possession of the ball, then there is a case that Lambert is and your view in your reply is 'possibly' correct.
But there is a big difference, Hull were happy for us to have possession, we didn't control having it. They were 1 up inside 2 mins and could tell that we didn't have the ability to hurt them. They were quite happy to let us have possession because our possession rarely leads to sustained attacking pressure or chances - as perfectly illustrated yesterday.
I would argue that it was Hull that controlled the entire game, allowing us to have possession at the back and pressing us when we tried to get forward, sitting and giving us the chance to make mistakes and errors that they could then capitalise on. | |
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:37 - Nov 25 with 1279 views | JakeITFC |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:19 - Nov 25 by Herbivore |
Having lots of the ball and controlling the game are two entirely different things and people need to start realising that. We often controlled games under Mick with less than 50% possession. Wycombe controlled the game at PR last season with about 30% possession. We didn't control the game last night, Hull happily let us have the ball and waited for us to shoot ourselves in the foot. |
That is true, but not of last night - we were 20 yards higher up the pitch than Shrewsbury and generally moved the ball well. That we ultimately ended up in wide areas and wasted the chances is a comment on the passage of play itself, more just bad decision making coupled with bad tactics and shape. | | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:37 - Nov 25 with 1259 views | Herbivore |
I don't see how anyone could read that piece and still conclude that Lambert is worth persisting with. He doesn't have a clue. | |
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:38 - Nov 25 with 1245 views | Herbivore |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:37 - Nov 25 by JakeITFC |
That is true, but not of last night - we were 20 yards higher up the pitch than Shrewsbury and generally moved the ball well. That we ultimately ended up in wide areas and wasted the chances is a comment on the passage of play itself, more just bad decision making coupled with bad tactics and shape. |
If you honestly think we controlled the game last night then I'd have to respectfully disagree, Paul. | |
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:43 - Nov 25 with 1209 views | ElderGrizzly |
Its all very well writing it in the paper, but it needs him to say it to his face in a press conference |  | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:49 - Nov 25 with 1147 views | MonkeyAlan |
Good on Watson. Someone needs to man up to Lambert. None of the other media seems to have the nuts to question him. He just gets defensive and talks utter gobbledygook that you need subtitles to understand if anyone confronts him face to face. The man is clueless. The players arnt blameless, they are weak as water and the owner is a muppet. |  | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:50 - Nov 25 with 1139 views | JakeITFC |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:38 - Nov 25 by Herbivore |
If you honestly think we controlled the game last night then I'd have to respectfully disagree, Paul. |
Not the game, but certainly minutes 2-44.
It doesn't matter hugely, we both come to the same conclusion. | | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:50 - Nov 25 with 1136 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:08 - Nov 25 by homer_123 |
Not sure he's going in heavy Joe - merely reporting the 'facts'. |
It will be interesting to see if Watson puts these facts to Lambert face to face in a presser. He won't of course, as the clubs reaction is likely to be to ban him. |  |
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:51 - Nov 25 with 1126 views | Harry_Palmer |
Bang on the money again from Watson. If we ever want to be serious top two contenders he has to go, Its a simple as that. |  | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:52 - Nov 25 with 1107 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:50 - Nov 25 by JakeITFC |
Not the game, but certainly minutes 2-44.
It doesn't matter hugely, we both come to the same conclusion. |
Controlled the game in our own half. That’s the problem | | | |
| Good for Watson on 08:54 - Nov 25 with 1100 views | Dyland |
Enough is enough.
It is scandalous that Lambert is still employed by Evans. And it's not "only football" or "just a game". |  |
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:57 - Nov 25 with 1060 views | Herbivore |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:52 - Nov 25 by ElderGrizzly |
Controlled the game in our own half. That’s the problem |
Even then Hull looked a threat on the break, which was their game plan essentially, and were happy to cede possession to us. I can't agree that we were controlling the game in the first half. We weren't playing terribly, we weren't as bad as against Shrewsbury, but we didn't look a threat and still looked porous at the back. It played into Hull's hands as the away side sitting on a lead. | |
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:57 - Nov 25 with 1065 views | IpswichKnight |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:52 - Nov 25 by ElderGrizzly |
Controlled the game in our own half. That’s the problem |
We did play higher up the pitch but with the same result back and across several times, lose the ball and hit on the counter.
We have no idea what to do when teams set up in front of us we have no one running at them to try and go past or get a foul even more so with Bishop and Edwards out, this makes leaving Dobra out even more baffling. | | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:59 - Nov 25 with 1044 views | urbanblue |
So Lambert is saying that with all the players we have, he could not put out a side with two up top that would be anything other then hopeless.
That would indicate to the players that he doesn't rate them or he is admitting that he is an absolute fraud to call himself a manager.
Jesus wept! |  | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 09:04 - Nov 25 with 992 views | BryanPlug |
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 09:04 - Nov 25 with 991 views | Guthrum |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:43 - Nov 25 by ElderGrizzly |
Its all very well writing it in the paper, but it needs him to say it to his face in a press conference |
Tho that is just likely to end up in a row and possibly further silliness. You don't get to be a top-level manager without a thick skin, a massive stubborn streak and enormous self-confidence.
Would a falling-out with the local press be that much of an influence on Evans? Especially if finance has a major bearing upon any decision.
The longer things go on, the dafter that five-year contract seems. |  |
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| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 09:05 - Nov 25 with 976 views | marchy |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 08:57 - Nov 25 by Herbivore |
Even then Hull looked a threat on the break, which was their game plan essentially, and were happy to cede possession to us. I can't agree that we were controlling the game in the first half. We weren't playing terribly, we weren't as bad as against Shrewsbury, but we didn't look a threat and still looked porous at the back. It played into Hull's hands as the away side sitting on a lead. |
"Own half", not "first half". | | | |
| Stuart Watson goes in heavy on Lambert here on 09:11 - Nov 25 with 931 views | MrTown |
He can't have long, it feels like the end is nigh.
All fair from Dr Watson. Never asks Lambert any real tough questions, as don't any of the journalists to be fair. |  |
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