| David Artell 14:45 - Nov 25 with 1064 views | wkj |
If we ever go the young an hungry route and someone that might be tempted to come here. I actually think the Cowley's would see us as a step back now. |  |
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| David Artell on 14:52 - Nov 25 with 1029 views | BlueBadger |
I suspect that Artell has benefitted from a a strongly structured club with a long-established ethos would have his career destroyed by our dysfunctional set-up.
The Cowleys are the current flavour-of-the-month who'll be yet another name on the merry-go-round in five years time. Bit like our current manager. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 14:58]
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| David Artell on 14:55 - Nov 25 with 1018 views | itfcjoe |
My concern with Artell is that he was at Crewe as Academy Manager for 2 and a half years before going in to be first team manager - I think sometimes it is underestimated how big a help that is to hit the ground running. Every club is unique, and knowing everything about it is a big help to start from.
We are a step back for the Cowley's no doubt - they were bought out of their Lincoln contract by Huddersfield for a serious amount of money - and now would find themselves back in League 1.
But they are local, and we are a big club at this level with potential - if they can get us up and competing at the right end of the division above then they will be highly sought after - their alternative is to wait for a Championship relegation candidate and try and work their magic to save them again |  |
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| David Artell on 14:56 - Nov 25 with 1004 views | itfcjoe |
| David Artell on 14:52 - Nov 25 by BlueBadger |
I suspect that Artell has benefitted from a a strongly structured club with a long-established ethos would have his career destroyed by our dysfunctional set-up.
The Cowleys are the current flavour-of-the-month who'll be yet another name on the merry-go-round in five years time. Bit like our current manager. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 14:58]
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What makes the Cowleys the flavour of the month as opposed to a very good management team who have had success all throughout the leagues? | |
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| David Artell on 14:56 - Nov 25 with 993 views | catch74 |
As I said in another post, maybe need his equivalent - he spent 2 1/2 years as academy director there, I imagine he has built up a relationship and knowledge of his team over that time. |  |
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| David Artell on 14:57 - Nov 25 with 989 views | J2BLUE |
You can't be serious? He's the kind of nutter we should be avoiding. |  |
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| David Artell on 14:58 - Nov 25 with 983 views | wkj |
| David Artell on 14:56 - Nov 25 by itfcjoe |
What makes the Cowleys the flavour of the month as opposed to a very good management team who have had success all throughout the leagues? |
Aiye, when people wanted them to replace Mick I would have said flavour of the month, but now, they are right to be coveted by us. They were dreadfully hard done by when Huddersfield fired them. | |
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| David Artell on 14:59 - Nov 25 with 968 views | wkj |
| David Artell on 14:57 - Nov 25 by J2BLUE |
You can't be serious? He's the kind of nutter we should be avoiding. |
What makes him a nutter in your opinion? | |
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| David Artell on 15:03 - Nov 25 with 947 views | BlueBadger |
| David Artell on 14:56 - Nov 25 by itfcjoe |
What makes the Cowleys the flavour of the month as opposed to a very good management team who have had success all throughout the leagues? |
Mainly a vague hunch more than anything solid, tbh. But they seem to be on a similar trajectory to Lambert - spectacular early success before a 'big' job that wasn't really suited to them. | |
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| David Artell on 15:10 - Nov 25 with 908 views | LankHenners |
| David Artell on 15:03 - Nov 25 by BlueBadger |
Mainly a vague hunch more than anything solid, tbh. But they seem to be on a similar trajectory to Lambert - spectacular early success before a 'big' job that wasn't really suited to them. |
I'm not sure that's really fair. Huddersfield had dropped like a stone out of the Prem and had started the season in the Champ dreadfully when the Cowleys were brought in. Their remit was to turn their fortunes around and get them competitive in the division, which they did, then were sacked because the club wanted a 'different direction' and hired Bielsa's assistant.
I wasn't too keen on them before as, like most people, it seemed a bit of a risk at the time and it was unclear how much they relied on playing to the strengths of the fat bloke they had up front. Since then, when you look at their career to date, they look like pretty shrewd guys who know how to get a team organised and competitive, which is exactly what we need right now. |  |
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| David Artell on 15:10 - Nov 25 with 906 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| David Artell on 14:55 - Nov 25 by itfcjoe |
My concern with Artell is that he was at Crewe as Academy Manager for 2 and a half years before going in to be first team manager - I think sometimes it is underestimated how big a help that is to hit the ground running. Every club is unique, and knowing everything about it is a big help to start from.
We are a step back for the Cowley's no doubt - they were bought out of their Lincoln contract by Huddersfield for a serious amount of money - and now would find themselves back in League 1.
But they are local, and we are a big club at this level with potential - if they can get us up and competing at the right end of the division above then they will be highly sought after - their alternative is to wait for a Championship relegation candidate and try and work their magic to save them again |
I think League 1 is where the Cowleys are now.
They failed their audition in the Champ, and I don't think are high on Championship owners' lists.
They would take the ITFC job in my view. |  |
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| David Artell on 15:17 - Nov 25 with 882 views | itfcjoe |
| David Artell on 15:10 - Nov 25 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I think League 1 is where the Cowleys are now.
They failed their audition in the Champ, and I don't think are high on Championship owners' lists.
They would take the ITFC job in my view. |
They certainly didn't fail at Huddersfield, but think they will only get a very tough job and continuing to walk that tightrope is very difficult. | |
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| David Artell on 15:18 - Nov 25 with 879 views | monty_radio |
| David Artell on 15:10 - Nov 25 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I think League 1 is where the Cowleys are now.
They failed their audition in the Champ, and I don't think are high on Championship owners' lists.
They would take the ITFC job in my view. |
Not expecting it to happen unless Evan's contractual tie-up with P.L. is more easily sorted than those ITK suggest, but Cowleys would know the size and potential of the club and the time and lack of interference that managers get here.
Bit ironic actually (having written that) since more interference is what many on here feel is required. But I like the fact that, if we can't have a management structure, then at least there would be two of them! |  |
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| David Artell on 15:21 - Nov 25 with 870 views | homer_123 |
| David Artell on 15:10 - Nov 25 by LankHenners |
I'm not sure that's really fair. Huddersfield had dropped like a stone out of the Prem and had started the season in the Champ dreadfully when the Cowleys were brought in. Their remit was to turn their fortunes around and get them competitive in the division, which they did, then were sacked because the club wanted a 'different direction' and hired Bielsa's assistant.
I wasn't too keen on them before as, like most people, it seemed a bit of a risk at the time and it was unclear how much they relied on playing to the strengths of the fat bloke they had up front. Since then, when you look at their career to date, they look like pretty shrewd guys who know how to get a team organised and competitive, which is exactly what we need right now. |
Moreover, they have historically undertaken the bulk of their work within financially constrained clubs. |  |
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| David Artell on 15:26 - Nov 25 with 846 views | wkj |
| David Artell on 15:21 - Nov 25 by homer_123 |
Moreover, they have historically undertaken the bulk of their work within financially constrained clubs. |
And as a team they could probably survive the Evans' total club management expectation better than a traditional Gaffer/Assistant duo. | |
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| David Artell on 16:09 - Nov 25 with 773 views | MrTown |
| David Artell on 14:52 - Nov 25 by BlueBadger |
I suspect that Artell has benefitted from a a strongly structured club with a long-established ethos would have his career destroyed by our dysfunctional set-up.
The Cowleys are the current flavour-of-the-month who'll be yet another name on the merry-go-round in five years time. Bit like our current manager. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 14:58]
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Think that is a little harsh. Have only had success wherever they have been, even securing safety for Huddersfield, and were wrongly axed for that.
Only sitting 16th in the Championship, I find it hard to believe that after a pre season together, the Cowleys would have them any worse than that right now. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 16:12]
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