| Vaccine priority List 10:21 - Dec 2 with 25871 views | itfcpaul |
Just been published and looks like the majority of us won't get it for months, maybe even after Spring at the earliest, looks like a long haul to get this vaccine to everyone, that's even if we can get 120 million that we need.....
And on a football note, please Mr. Lambert will you leave our club
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| Vaccine priority List on 13:49 - Dec 4 with 2413 views | Herbivore |
| Vaccine priority List on 13:26 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
You’re obviously not reading what I’m writing. Stokie is engaging in a conversation. You are jumping on the let’s all bash Paz bandwagon. [Post edited 4 Dec 2020 13:27]
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I'm reading it just fine, thanks. |  |
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| Vaccine priority List on 13:59 - Dec 4 with 2402 views | SpruceMoose |
| Vaccine priority List on 13:49 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
He has made his points and made them very well. I look at things slightly different to him but applaud the way he has made his points. It’s not a case of one poster looking to ‘skewer’ another. It’s an exchange of views, that’s what a forum should be. |
He's got you over a barrel. |  |
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| Vaccine priority List on 14:05 - Dec 4 with 2378 views | 26_Paz |
| Vaccine priority List on 13:59 - Dec 4 by SpruceMoose |
He's got you over a barrel. |
Not everyone is as adversarial as you. Some people quite like reading opinions that are different to theirs. |  |
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| Vaccine priority List on 14:12 - Dec 4 with 2384 views | Herbivore |
| Vaccine priority List on 14:05 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
Not everyone is as adversarial as you. Some people quite like reading opinions that are different to theirs. |
I don't want to speak for Stokie, but he's a good guy and I'm sure he'd rather read you showing some empathy and compassion for once. | |
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| Vaccine priority List on 14:14 - Dec 4 with 2380 views | footers |
| Vaccine priority List on 14:05 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
Not everyone is as adversarial as you. Some people quite like reading opinions that are different to theirs. |
I doubt Stokie likes reading your dimwitted drivel to be fair. |  |
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| Vaccine priority List on 14:29 - Dec 4 with 2355 views | SpruceMoose |
| Vaccine priority List on 14:05 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
Not everyone is as adversarial as you. Some people quite like reading opinions that are different to theirs. |
It's all in your posts. People can, and seemingly have, judge for themselves. | |
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| Vaccine priority List on 14:41 - Dec 4 with 2340 views | eireblue |
| Vaccine priority List on 10:49 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
You seem to have misunderstood the point I was making.
What I’m saying is that a number of the Covid deaths, and I’m not sure how large a number that is, were already ‘condemned to their grave’ regardless of corona virus. Therefore, it is misleading to include them in the the death figures.
As I said, I don’t know how large a number that is, but I would like to know. I think the public need to know in order for them to accurately judge the risk profile. |
Why shouldn’t that be true of everything.
Everyone is going to die.
Why shouldn’t people be able to judge how fast and how many pints will effect their driving.
And some people don’t quite get the risk calculation correct, because they are ill-informed, but what’s the worse that can happen, some people that were going to die, die.
Isn’t the purpose of a government to govern in the interests of all, not Paz. |  | | |
| Vaccine priority List on 16:07 - Dec 4 with 2301 views | 26_Paz |
| Vaccine priority List on 14:41 - Dec 4 by eireblue |
Why shouldn’t that be true of everything.
Everyone is going to die.
Why shouldn’t people be able to judge how fast and how many pints will effect their driving.
And some people don’t quite get the risk calculation correct, because they are ill-informed, but what’s the worse that can happen, some people that were going to die, die.
Isn’t the purpose of a government to govern in the interests of all, not Paz. |
We need to move away from this idea that somehow everyone who doesn’t wholeheartedly support lockdowns is in some way selfish. There are very real economic concerns that in my opinion are not given the weight they merit. | |
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| Vaccine priority List on 16:26 - Dec 4 with 2299 views | Herbivore |
| Vaccine priority List on 16:07 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
We need to move away from this idea that somehow everyone who doesn’t wholeheartedly support lockdowns is in some way selfish. There are very real economic concerns that in my opinion are not given the weight they merit. |
We all know that it's mainly about you going to the pub and going on holiday, you don't need to pretend. | |
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| Vaccine priority List on 16:36 - Dec 4 with 2284 views | Harry_Palmer |
| Vaccine priority List on 17:06 - Dec 3 by BlueBadger |
The context in the wider picture is that they quite possibly wouldn't have died id we'd be able to effectively vaccinate against it. You're effectively writing off a whole swathe of people to try and push your irresponsible, selfish and f*ckwitted agenda. |
You know it's a real shame that you don't seem to have the maturity or general intelligence to discuss this subject in a civil way.
Tell me, how do you feel about the Government and your employer turning there backs on frontline workers in 2009 and leaving them on the scrapheap after a vaccine caused them life changing and permanent disability? Do you not have an opinion on this or is it just easier to ignore it because it doesn't fit with your worldview?
You say that I am misrepresenting and 'plain making sh!t up' so come on then please, put your money where your mouth is and point out exactly where I have done these things.
It's so easy to sling the insults from behind your keyboard isn't it, I wonder if you would be quite as brave face to face? somehow I doubt it. Speaking of which, I would quite happily sit face to face with you for a friendly debate on vaccines any day of the week, I could even bring along my family member who suffered a vaccine injury, resulting in a life long condition, she's 11. She is really disturbed right now seeing nothing but news items about vaccines and how good they are, and can't understand why people think it is such good news.
It has been explained to her that she was very unfortunate and that for the vast majority of people there is no problem however I don't think that is much consolation to a child. She is terrified that she might have to have the C19 vaccine and that it might be made mandatory. Perhaps you could explain to her why her life experience around vaccines doesn't matter and how her fears are based around nothing more than an "irresponsible, selfish and f*ckwitted agenda"
I really try to keep personal details off this board as much as possible but perhaps with a little more insight you and others might at least try to understand where I am coming from. I know that this all leads to a certain degree of confirmation bias on my behalf, and I try to mitigate against this as best I can. But show me somebody that says they are not not prone to a at least a small degree of bias based on their life experiences and I will show you a liar.
I am not going to stop putting across my views on this subject for your convenience so may I politely request that if you find my posts uncomfortable or you aren't able to muster the intelligence to debate them in a respectful way, that you simply use the ignore function. I am pretty thick-skinned but I am not going to indefinitely accept abuse, lies and character slurs from you. Thanks. |  | | |
| Vaccine priority List on 16:54 - Dec 4 with 2270 views | 26_Paz |
| Vaccine priority List on 16:26 - Dec 4 by Herbivore |
We all know that it's mainly about you going to the pub and going on holiday, you don't need to pretend. |
I’m going out for a substantial meal with my support bubble tonight so I’m ok, it’s not all about me. I have some empathy for all the small business owners going bust but hey ho, what does that matter to some of you?! [Post edited 4 Dec 2020 17:31]
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| Vaccine priority List on 17:25 - Dec 4 with 2256 views | Herbivore |
| Vaccine priority List on 16:54 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
I’m going out for a substantial meal with my support bubble tonight so I’m ok, it’s not all about me. I have some empathy for all the small business owners going bust but hey ho, what does that matter to some of you?! [Post edited 4 Dec 2020 17:31]
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It's almost like you forget we all know your posting history. This is and always has been about you being able to go about your business as normal. It has nothing to do with caring about small businesses. | |
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| Vaccine priority List (n/t) on 17:33 - Dec 4 with 2251 views | SpruceMoose |
| Vaccine priority List on 16:54 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
I’m going out for a substantial meal with my support bubble tonight so I’m ok, it’s not all about me. I have some empathy for all the small business owners going bust but hey ho, what does that matter to some of you?! [Post edited 4 Dec 2020 17:31]
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| Vaccine priority List on 17:47 - Dec 4 with 2229 views | 26_Paz |
| Vaccine priority List (n/t) on 17:33 - Dec 4 by SpruceMoose |
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| Vaccine priority List on 18:39 - Dec 4 with 2211 views | eireblue |
| Vaccine priority List on 16:07 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
We need to move away from this idea that somehow everyone who doesn’t wholeheartedly support lockdowns is in some way selfish. There are very real economic concerns that in my opinion are not given the weight they merit. |
I didn’t use the word selfish.
Just like drink driving, it was meant to be the death knell of the country pub.
I guess you were one of the ones more worried about country pubs, and knew how much you were able to drink safely. | | | |
| Vaccine priority List on 18:40 - Dec 4 with 2208 views | eireblue |
| Vaccine priority List on 16:54 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
I’m going out for a substantial meal with my support bubble tonight so I’m ok, it’s not all about me. I have some empathy for all the small business owners going bust but hey ho, what does that matter to some of you?! [Post edited 4 Dec 2020 17:31]
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If you are worried about a small business and were going to spend money with them, just send them the money you were going to spend, plus a bit extra that you save on travel. | | | |
| Vaccine priority List on 19:43 - Dec 4 with 2181 views | jimmyvet |
| Vaccine priority List on 17:47 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
You are a very strange man |
He’s a very offensive person .... that is so offensive why has be not been banned ? Maybe he thinks he’s funny but he’s not disgusting and not acceptable I hope Phil deals with this. | | | |
| Vaccine priority List on 19:48 - Dec 4 with 2173 views | jeera |
| Vaccine priority List on 19:43 - Dec 4 by jimmyvet |
He’s a very offensive person .... that is so offensive why has be not been banned ? Maybe he thinks he’s funny but he’s not disgusting and not acceptable I hope Phil deals with this. |
You hope Phil deals with what exactly?
You're ok with someone saying that lives don't matter if they're not personally connected with the poster who insists on repeating this vile sh1t, but you have an issue with those pulling him up on it.
You need to get your priorities in order or learn how to read pal.
How can you be so wrong and not know? [Post edited 4 Dec 2020 19:56]
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| Vaccine priority List on 20:33 - Dec 4 with 2110 views | footers |
| Vaccine priority List on 16:07 - Dec 4 by 26_Paz |
We need to move away from this idea that somehow everyone who doesn’t wholeheartedly support lockdowns is in some way selfish. There are very real economic concerns that in my opinion are not given the weight they merit. |
"There are very real economic concerns that in my opinion are not given the weight they merit,"said a staunch Brexiteer.
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| Vaccine priority List on 22:44 - Dec 4 with 2060 views | jimmyvet |
| Vaccine priority List on 19:48 - Dec 4 by jeera |
You hope Phil deals with what exactly?
You're ok with someone saying that lives don't matter if they're not personally connected with the poster who insists on repeating this vile sh1t, but you have an issue with those pulling him up on it.
You need to get your priorities in order or learn how to read pal.
How can you be so wrong and not know? [Post edited 4 Dec 2020 19:56]
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The fact that in 2020 you think it’s acceptable to use such vile, offensive and disgusting terms says a lot more about you than me ! If Paz or whoever they are had used such language you would be outraged and rightfully so but apparently it’s acceptable? | | | |
| Vaccine priority List on 22:49 - Dec 4 with 2053 views | StokieBlue |
| Vaccine priority List on 22:44 - Dec 4 by jimmyvet |
The fact that in 2020 you think it’s acceptable to use such vile, offensive and disgusting terms says a lot more about you than me ! If Paz or whoever they are had used such language you would be outraged and rightfully so but apparently it’s acceptable? |
In isolation you'd be right but you've got no idea of the context in which it was posted.
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| Vaccine priority List on 23:08 - Dec 4 with 2039 views | 26_Paz |
| Vaccine priority List on 22:44 - Dec 4 by jimmyvet |
The fact that in 2020 you think it’s acceptable to use such vile, offensive and disgusting terms says a lot more about you than me ! If Paz or whoever they are had used such language you would be outraged and rightfully so but apparently it’s acceptable? |
In his defence he is referring back to an old conversation. He repeats it like a broken record. If you stick around here you’ll see it roughly 4 times a week. It’s his dreadful attempt at humour or ‘calling me out’ or something. He’s not being homophobic. | |
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| Vaccine priority List on 23:09 - Dec 4 with 2039 views | jimmyvet |
| Vaccine priority List on 22:49 - Dec 4 by StokieBlue |
In isolation you'd be right but you've got no idea of the context in which it was posted.
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Forget context in 2020 that is just so wrong. It is crass, vile and disgusting and so offensive and how anybody can condone that type of language is beyond me. It’s not funny on any level and what has gone before is no excuse for using that term on a football forum or any forum. The fact someone sat behind a keyboard thinks it’s ok is so wrong and Sorry if you think it’s ok because I don’t. It should be removed from this forum. | | | |
| Vaccine priority List on 23:11 - Dec 4 with 2038 views | SpruceMoose |
| Vaccine priority List on 22:44 - Dec 4 by jimmyvet |
The fact that in 2020 you think it’s acceptable to use such vile, offensive and disgusting terms says a lot more about you than me ! If Paz or whoever they are had used such language you would be outraged and rightfully so but apparently it’s acceptable? |
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.
If you want to have a browse of Paz's posting history and then come back to remove your boot from my bottom and insert it into his then that would be lovely thanks. | |
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Nothing wrong with my conduct on here, unlike some who I see wading in and sticking up for homophobes and blokes who couldn't give a toss about others dying from Covid.