| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? 17:16 - Dec 7 with 3669 views | Coastalblue |
Just wondered what people's ideas of our short term future are if the vaccines work as hoped?
I get the feeling that many people seem to think that by next summer we'll be back to life as it was up until this year. I don't see that, I think even with succesful vaccines we've probably got another disrupted year or two before things look like heading back to the way they were.
I think masks, social distancing and all that stuff is likely to carry on through most of next year and it will probably be 2022 before things really start to go back to how they were before (and hopefull a bit better with some things)
Perhaps it's just because this year has had such a massive impact on me personally that I'm finding it hard to feel too optimistic about the immediate future. I'm lucky that I didn't lose any friends or loved ones, my primary source of income disapeared literally overnight with lockdown and have been struggling by ever since. |  |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:00 - Dec 7 with 1161 views | jeera |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 17:49 - Dec 7 by StokieBlue |
Why would you wear it at any outdoor event.
This is specifically indoors, where most transmission will take place. I am not advocating wearing the all the time (we don't even wear them outdoors now), just in enclosed spaces.
As for a night out - people aren't wearing masks in pubs at the moment.
It's more a thing to do when the circumstances permit, which is the case in many indoor venues like shopping or transport.
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No I'm aware of that, I was replying to the point of football that Lagos brought up. Although the seats are in close proximity and at a couple of hours per visit there's plenty of opportunity to be catching someone's germs.
I simply mean there would be circumstances in which I would be happy for everyone to conform and others where it would be unrealistic.
As I also said, seriously, if people were to consider their personal hygiene a bit more conscientiously that would be a great help all round.
Clean hands touching items in shops as opposed to some dirty fecker who cannot be bothered to wash his/her hands...again, it's not complicated. |  |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:01 - Dec 7 with 1161 views | bluelagos |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 17:53 - Dec 7 by StokieBlue |
Those are fair points.
The counterpoint is that wearing them indoors in shops and transport will be protecting the vulnerable long into the future. Flu isn't anything like C19 but it could be cut down a lot as well just through something like this.
I don't tend to smile at a lot of people in the supermarket. Guess I'm miserable. I think it will be interesting to see how this develops in society over the next 2 years - I suspect you'll be right and not many will wear masks which will mean that in the end none will wear masks.
It will also be interesting to see if any studies come out showing the initial spread is places like Korea was much lower than in Western countries because people were routinely wearing masks.
SB [Post edited 7 Dec 2020 17:55]
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Funnily enough - the morale argument has persuaded me to have the Flu vaccine this year. I wasn't going to get one (Am over 50) but was pointed out that I would be helping protect the oldies so signed up.
I think we have adopted to mask wearing pretty well, but I am defo one of those who takes it off the minute I leave the shop :-) |  |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:08 - Dec 7 with 1153 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 17:38 - Dec 7 by StokieBlue |
To be honest there is an extremely good case to be made for using masks every winter from now on.
They use masks routinely in southeast Asia because it works in preventing transmission to others. Look at the low cases of other respiratory illness this year when there has been heavy mask use preventing the spread of flu as well as C19.
I don't think it's much of a hardship to wear a mask when shopping for 30 minutes or whatever given the huge potential upside.
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What with the Musk love, astronomy and all it is becoming increasingly clear that you are Star Trek's Spock and claim my £5. 🖖 [Post edited 7 Dec 2020 18:14]
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:09 - Dec 7 with 1148 views | factual_blue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 17:47 - Dec 7 by footers |
The vaccine companies missed a trick by not creating a subsidiary black market for once the vaccine has been used. It's sloppy decision-making. |
I'd love somebody to start a twitbook rumour that the vaccine is going to be added to the water supply. |  |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:10 - Dec 7 with 1144 views | factual_blue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 17:21 - Dec 7 by Coastalblue |
Why? You won't even know about it, your brain will have been wiped and your DNA altered to turn you into a man/pony hybrid for towing trolleys round enormous Amazon warehouses. |
That would work for me too.  | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:11 - Dec 7 with 1142 views | factual_blue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 17:37 - Dec 7 by jeera |
Who's being negative?
I am optimistically expecting this:
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Halesworth? | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:11 - Dec 7 with 1140 views | jeera |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:11 - Dec 7 by factual_blue |
Halesworth? |
Ends in 'worth'. | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:12 - Dec 7 with 1139 views | StokieBlue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:08 - Dec 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
What with the Musk love, astronomy and all it is becoming increasingly clear that you are Star Trek's Spock and claim my £5. 🖖 [Post edited 7 Dec 2020 18:14]
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There are worse things to be called.
Although a small correction: I don't like Musk as an individual, I do however think the technology and advances being made by some of this companies are impressive.
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:13 - Dec 7 with 1136 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 17:53 - Dec 7 by StokieBlue |
Those are fair points.
The counterpoint is that wearing them indoors in shops and transport will be protecting the vulnerable long into the future. Flu isn't anything like C19 but it could be cut down a lot as well just through something like this.
I don't tend to smile at a lot of people in the supermarket. Guess I'm miserable. I think it will be interesting to see how this develops in society over the next 2 years - I suspect you'll be right and not many will wear masks which will mean that in the end none will wear masks.
It will also be interesting to see if any studies come out showing the initial spread is places like Korea was much lower than in Western countries because people were routinely wearing masks.
SB [Post edited 7 Dec 2020 17:55]
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Rather than masks what would help is businesses understanding the need for people to take time off work when they are I'll without threat of warnings.
That way when you are Ill you can rest. Get better without the need to pass it on to others. |  |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:14 - Dec 7 with 1133 views | StokieBlue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:13 - Dec 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Rather than masks what would help is businesses understanding the need for people to take time off work when they are I'll without threat of warnings.
That way when you are Ill you can rest. Get better without the need to pass it on to others. |
Certainly that would also be excellent.
However isn't it a bit like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted? If you cut out the vectors of transmission then far less people are ill to begin with.
I don't see why both can't happen.
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:17 - Dec 7 with 1120 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:12 - Dec 7 by StokieBlue |
There are worse things to be called.
Although a small correction: I don't like Musk as an individual, I do however think the technology and advances being made by some of this companies are impressive.
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As would Spock!
Smile more in shops Stokie, especially at the people serving you! Oh, you use the automated checkout don't you!  | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:18 - Dec 7 with 1114 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:14 - Dec 7 by StokieBlue |
Certainly that would also be excellent.
However isn't it a bit like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted? If you cut out the vectors of transmission then far less people are ill to begin with.
I don't see why both can't happen.
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Very true
Altho I must admit I bloody hate the masks. Have to wear them for 11 hours for work and then in shops. Cold sores galore and my ears for some random reason hurt like mad | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:19 - Dec 7 with 1112 views | bluelagos |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:17 - Dec 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
As would Spock!
Smile more in shops Stokie, especially at the people serving you! Oh, you use the automated checkout don't you! |
You're a windup Bankster! Made me laugh though (sorry Stokie) :-) | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:19 - Dec 7 with 1110 views | StokieBlue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:17 - Dec 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
As would Spock!
Smile more in shops Stokie, especially at the people serving you! Oh, you use the automated checkout don't you! |
Everyone uses the automated checkouts.
Although using the local shops is nice and I am smiling under my mask.
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:20 - Dec 7 with 1100 views | bluelagos |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:19 - Dec 7 by StokieBlue |
Everyone uses the automated checkouts.
Although using the local shops is nice and I am smiling under my mask.
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Smile with your eyes! | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:21 - Dec 7 with 1097 views | jeera |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:19 - Dec 7 by StokieBlue |
Everyone uses the automated checkouts.
Although using the local shops is nice and I am smiling under my mask.
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I have felt obliged to learn a few basic sign language gestures so that an only be a good thing if people are at least trying that more. | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:22 - Dec 7 with 1096 views | StokieBlue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:20 - Dec 7 by bluelagos |
Smile with your eyes! |
You'll be getting a visit from the old bill.
I do agree it's nice to see the smiles but you have all spring, summer an autumn to do that!
I'm only saying that perhaps they should be worn in winter.
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:23 - Dec 7 with 1085 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:20 - Dec 7 by bluelagos |
Smile with your eyes! |
Am I the only one who keeps forgetting people can't see your mouth movements.
I've always had this habit where I'd visually say thank you as I pass. Now no one has a clue that's what I'm doing lol | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:24 - Dec 7 with 1079 views | bluelagos |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:21 - Dec 7 by jeera |
I have felt obliged to learn a few basic sign language gestures so that an only be a good thing if people are at least trying that more. |
To communicate with deaf people? That's very public spirited Jeera. | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:25 - Dec 7 with 1075 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:19 - Dec 7 by StokieBlue |
Everyone uses the automated checkouts.
Although using the local shops is nice and I am smiling under my mask.
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Bladdy Landan! Can you politely ask them to stop moving and bringing their ways here. | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:28 - Dec 7 with 1065 views | jeera |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:24 - Dec 7 by bluelagos |
To communicate with deaf people? That's very public spirited Jeera. |
Yes, it doesn't hurt to try.
I'm not very good but it's polite to at least make an effort. Plus make the most of a situation and all that.
When taxiing, I took a lad with Downs Syndrome for a few years and although his speech wasn't great, he could sign very well. He used to get very frustrated with me for not being very good, although in my defence I was trying to drive at the same time!
Edit: I should point out, he was trying to teach me. [Post edited 7 Dec 2020 18:30]
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:28 - Dec 7 with 1064 views | StokieBlue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:25 - Dec 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Bladdy Landan! Can you politely ask them to stop moving and bringing their ways here. |
Don't worry, they will all move back when they discover that they aren't actually allowed to work 5 days a week from home every week.
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| Bill Gates to telling everyone exactly what they've had for breakfast and when.. on 18:58 - Dec 7 with 1015 views | Basuco |
| Bill Gates to telling everyone exactly what they've had for breakfast and when.. on 17:55 - Dec 7 by BlueBadger |
..they've been and had a poo. |
It is not compatible with the iphone but is OK with Android. Def Info. |  | | |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 19:12 - Dec 7 with 1000 views | factual_blue |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 18:11 - Dec 7 by jeera |
Ends in 'worth'. |
Wandsworth?
Rickmansworth? | |
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| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 19:14 - Dec 7 with 993 views | jeera |
| What are you expecting if the vaccines are succesful? on 19:12 - Dec 7 by factual_blue |
Wandsworth?
Rickmansworth? |
Redgrave. | |
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