Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell 21:46 - Dec 15 with 2832 views | Steve_M | We make the game joyless and so much hard work to watch. Should have done far better after a good start but there is so little belief in this squad, players content to play safely and in doing so creating problems. Once Burton got organised - from about 15 minutes to 75 - we achieved very little, outside of that we stretched them and just about deserved the win. It's tedious stuff though, not good enough for a squad with the budget we have in this division, even with injuries. How much more of it do we have to endure? It's not as if Lambert is enjoying being here any longer is it? [Post edited 15 Dec 2020 21:54]
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 21:50 - Dec 15 with 2777 views | Reuser_is_God | Think your last sentence is key. 2 years ago he was running up & down the touch line organising & kicking every ball & now he can’t be bothered. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 21:50 - Dec 15 with 2764 views | Herbivore | Scraping a win against the worst side in the league means we'll have to endure this a while longer I expect. [Post edited 15 Dec 2020 22:33]
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 21:51 - Dec 15 with 2740 views | Chrisd | Completely agree Steve. It takes the joy out of watching them play, I just feel hugely underwhelmed, we've won the game and results have gone in our favour tonight and I'm still sitting here nonplussed. That's PL's ITFC for you I suppose? It's not great. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 21:52 - Dec 15 with 2729 views | Sarge |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 21:50 - Dec 15 by Herbivore | Scraping a win against the worst side in the league means we'll have to endure this a while longer I expect. [Post edited 15 Dec 2020 22:33]
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I don’t think losing would have done much to hurry it up though. There’s been 4 games in the last month alone where realistically he should have gone. |  | |  |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 21:53 - Dec 15 with 2708 views | portmanking | I switched off iFollow as soon as the full time whistle went. Couldn't give a damn about over analysing that one. Joyless is the perfect word. Even when we score right now I can only seem to muster a smile. Still, while there's people on Twitter (and probably offline) that are just happy to look at the points on the board rather than the bigger picture, it's clear Evans won't do a thing. |  | |  |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:00 - Dec 15 with 2600 views | Radlett_blue | I think your point that the players keep looking for the safe option & then invariably pass the ball backwards is the issue. I don't know if that is out of fear or an instruction to keep possession at all costs, but it means that an organised team (and most sides at this level are organised) is very hard to break down. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:07 - Dec 15 with 2547 views | Steve_M |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:00 - Dec 15 by Radlett_blue | I think your point that the players keep looking for the safe option & then invariably pass the ball backwards is the issue. I don't know if that is out of fear or an instruction to keep possession at all costs, but it means that an organised team (and most sides at this level are organised) is very hard to break down. |
That throw just before halftime epitomises the mindset at the moment, attacking position 45 seconds to go and the ball ends up back with Cornell. There were brighter bits, first ten minutes and late on as Burton tired but not enough and not with enough intensity to trouble a better side. Against a poor Burton it was enough to create sufficient chances that one would go in. Sometimes possession football is tedious, just a. bit too slow or passes not quite coming off - Magilton's team were like that at times particularly in 06-07 but it what they were trying to achieve was far clearer than whatever it is Lambert is aiming for at the moment. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:13 - Dec 15 with 2488 views | ArnieM |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:00 - Dec 15 by Radlett_blue | I think your point that the players keep looking for the safe option & then invariably pass the ball backwards is the issue. I don't know if that is out of fear or an instruction to keep possession at all costs, but it means that an organised team (and most sides at this level are organised) is very hard to break down. |
We actually kill dead, odour own momentum by needless back passes. I think Chambers ONLY ever passed the back to the CBs . Throw insin opposition half often found its way back into our defending half. Keeping possession doesn’t ( shouldn’t ), mean playing the game in our own half. The only difference between this style of play under Lambert, from that of McCarthy’s is the inevitable hooof you’d always get under McCarthy. Our game is soulless at present. And just when the hell are our injured players ever going to be fit for the first team this season?? It’s ridiculous! |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:14 - Dec 15 with 2481 views | southnorfolkblue |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 21:50 - Dec 15 by Herbivore | Scraping a win against the worst side in the league means we'll have to endure this a while longer I expect. [Post edited 15 Dec 2020 22:33]
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I don’t think they are the worst team in the division and reckon they will stay up. They have had a lousy start but their recent form is pretty decent. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:16 - Dec 15 with 2451 views | clive_baker | Didn't watch but sounds like another 90 minutes of t0ss. It's a shame, as I still believe we've got enough about us in terms of quality in the squad, but we're playing within ourselves, very predictable, pedestrian, unimaginative. It's not new news either, it's been the case for a year now at least. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:17 - Dec 15 with 2422 views | Reuser_is_God |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:16 - Dec 15 by clive_baker | Didn't watch but sounds like another 90 minutes of t0ss. It's a shame, as I still believe we've got enough about us in terms of quality in the squad, but we're playing within ourselves, very predictable, pedestrian, unimaginative. It's not new news either, it's been the case for a year now at least. |
Was the first game I’ve watched for a little while & we were abject for the most part. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:21 - Dec 15 with 2390 views | Illinoisblue | First ten mins aside, we are so fking pedestrian and labored on everything we do. It’s exhausting watch us play. Bright spots: Bennetts lively - then injured of course - Dobra some nice touches. McGuiness got through a game without making a mistake. How me miss Bishop’s runs and creativity. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:28 - Dec 15 with 2354 views | Darth_Koont | It was definitely in spite of Lambert and our supposed preferred style. But I quite enjoyed tonight. Nothing for the purist but I liked the battles and how all the players tried to get things working. We want more but the players are certainly trying to take those small steps. I even detected some awareness of teammates. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:29 - Dec 15 with 2347 views | BlueBadger |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 21:50 - Dec 15 by Reuser_is_God | Think your last sentence is key. 2 years ago he was running up & down the touch line organising & kicking every ball & now he can’t be bothered. |
He couldn't be bothered coaching and organising two years ago. He's just given up pretending. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:31 - Dec 15 with 2328 views | TieDyedIn95 | Evans will be happy with Playoffs anyway so I don't know why anyone would expect any different. We'll finish 7th though and be told it was an improvement anyway. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 09:28 - Dec 16 with 2116 views | itfcjoe |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:07 - Dec 15 by Steve_M | That throw just before halftime epitomises the mindset at the moment, attacking position 45 seconds to go and the ball ends up back with Cornell. There were brighter bits, first ten minutes and late on as Burton tired but not enough and not with enough intensity to trouble a better side. Against a poor Burton it was enough to create sufficient chances that one would go in. Sometimes possession football is tedious, just a. bit too slow or passes not quite coming off - Magilton's team were like that at times particularly in 06-07 but it what they were trying to achieve was far clearer than whatever it is Lambert is aiming for at the moment. |
Just before they scored we had started retreating......and then when Chambers got caught out by McGuinness underhitting the switch you knew we would go back into our shell We rely on 2 35 year old footballers to supply any width, but they become reticent to attack and we then have no options forward We deserved the win, but the winning goal summed up the quality of the game. We talk about all the injuries we have, but look at that team we were able to put out last night - packed full of tier 2 experience, international experience, youth internationals, etc. It was never going to be pretty, but after 10 minutes or so i thought it may be a decent comfortable win, I didn't think it would be as ugly as it was and it just buys the wrong man more time by being able to point at the league table and the injury record |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 09:47 - Dec 16 with 2069 views | Steve_M |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 09:28 - Dec 16 by itfcjoe | Just before they scored we had started retreating......and then when Chambers got caught out by McGuinness underhitting the switch you knew we would go back into our shell We rely on 2 35 year old footballers to supply any width, but they become reticent to attack and we then have no options forward We deserved the win, but the winning goal summed up the quality of the game. We talk about all the injuries we have, but look at that team we were able to put out last night - packed full of tier 2 experience, international experience, youth internationals, etc. It was never going to be pretty, but after 10 minutes or so i thought it may be a decent comfortable win, I didn't think it would be as ugly as it was and it just buys the wrong man more time by being able to point at the league table and the injury record |
Yes, that period before the goal reminded me of the Oxford match at PR in February. A much better performance than last night for 35 minutes, we should have been ahead really, but then visibly retreated giving Oxford two chances at the end of the half and they took one of them. I think I would be prepared to give Lambert more time if he showed some of the positivity and dynamism that he did when he first arrived. Some modest realism about recent performances but with a more upbeat outlook in public and - presumably - to the players is surely better than the surly adolescent demeanour. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 09:56 - Dec 16 with 2033 views | Radlett_blue |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:07 - Dec 15 by Steve_M | That throw just before halftime epitomises the mindset at the moment, attacking position 45 seconds to go and the ball ends up back with Cornell. There were brighter bits, first ten minutes and late on as Burton tired but not enough and not with enough intensity to trouble a better side. Against a poor Burton it was enough to create sufficient chances that one would go in. Sometimes possession football is tedious, just a. bit too slow or passes not quite coming off - Magilton's team were like that at times particularly in 06-07 but it what they were trying to achieve was far clearer than whatever it is Lambert is aiming for at the moment. |
We've done this throw in routine umpteen times in decent weeks. Most teams - unless they are trying to slow down the game - take an attacking throw in very quickly & forwards & even if it is thrown to a marked player, he's often in position to draw a foul or win another throw in. A Town player picks up the ball, has a think & then transfers the ball to another player. By this time, every Town player is closely marked & the opposition defence is organised. So we throw it 10 yards back to a Town player who is immediately put under pressure so another sideways or backwards pass ensues & inevitably the ball is passed back to Cornell, who hoofs it upfield with the opposition in tight formation. I wish someone would explain what we are trying to achieve by this. |  |
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Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 10:47 - Dec 16 with 1970 views | hadleighboyblue |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 22:21 - Dec 15 by Illinoisblue | First ten mins aside, we are so fking pedestrian and labored on everything we do. It’s exhausting watch us play. Bright spots: Bennetts lively - then injured of course - Dobra some nice touches. McGuiness got through a game without making a mistake. How me miss Bishop’s runs and creativity. |
Watching that last night didn't have me rushing to go back , it was just so boring . Very little to get excited about , you would get more passion and commitment watching a local football match . Watching from home , rather than watching in the atmosphere of a crowd just makes it look so much worse , the fact that we are still top 6 just shows what a rubbish division we are in . I used to want a win any way possible , but it's reached the point where I want to have some entertainment as well . Last night's win just felt empty . The manager looks disinterested and until he goes I fear this poor entertainment will continue to drive fans away |  | |  |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 10:55 - Dec 16 with 1958 views | N2_Blue |
Well, just about enough in the end but bloody hell on 21:50 - Dec 15 by Reuser_is_God | Think your last sentence is key. 2 years ago he was running up & down the touch line organising & kicking every ball & now he can’t be bothered. |
Exactly this. The players will notice and be aware of this. How are they going to be motivated and try raise their game when they can see the manager isn't even committed to the cause anymore. As a player, if I had a manger that was kicking every ball, screaming encouragement at every opportunity then have the demeanour of a cardboard cut-out I'd struggle to raise my game. This is why we are screwed. Burton were weak enough for us to get a win, but if we go behind against any decent oppo there is no way we are coming back because there is no incentive to do so with this manager. [Post edited 16 Dec 2020 10:57]
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