| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 18:14 - Dec 20 with 4560 views | Ryorry |
Whilst a couple of other European countries (Denmark, which may have been down to mink? & the Netherlands) have a small number of cases, the numbers have obviously been considerably more here.
Is the mutant version here down to mink too? or something else - anyone know?
Whilst out walking the mutt a couple of hours ago, met neighbour who's a NHS medic who assured me that the vaccine being rolled out does also protect against this mutant strain, which is at least something. [Post edited 20 Dec 2020 18:15]
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| Why did this mutant strain originate solely from SE England? 🤔 on 18:17 - Dec 20 with 3388 views | positivity |
i don't think anyone knows yet (or at least it's not public knowledge.
mutations can happen for many reasons, but can be totally random, a more successful mutation will then reproduce more quickly |  |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:30 - Dec 20 with 3305 views | pistonbroke |
Now I keep reading about this so called new strain that is meant to be according to the figures 70% more transmittable , now if that is the case why is the r number not 70 instead of around the 1 | | | |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:32 - Dec 20 with 3294 views | lowhouseblue |
because the mutation happened here. that simple i guess. with the dna tracking they're using they will be able to narrow it down pretty precisely to a time and place. |  |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:38 - Dec 20 with 3266 views | factual_blue |
Because we have Taken Back Control. |  |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:40 - Dec 20 with 3243 views | StokieBlue |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:30 - Dec 20 by pistonbroke |
Now I keep reading about this so called new strain that is meant to be according to the figures 70% more transmittable , now if that is the case why is the r number not 70 instead of around the 1 |
That would be 7000%.
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:41 - Dec 20 with 3230 views | pistonbroke |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:30 - Dec 20 by pistonbroke |
Now I keep reading about this so called new strain that is meant to be according to the figures 70% more transmittable , now if that is the case why is the r number not 70 instead of around the 1 |
My bad maths , a 70% more infectable virus would push the r number to 1.7 which it is not | | | |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:44 - Dec 20 with 3212 views | StokieBlue |
Mutations are random and can happen anywhere, there is no reason to compare mutations in one place to another by the number of cases. For instance, before this latest strain most of the cases in the UK and around Europe were from a strain which originated in Spain in the summer.
The reason this one has taken off is simply because the mutations are beneficial. Everything is then played out via Darwinism.
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:48 - Dec 20 with 3183 views | eireblue |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:41 - Dec 20 by pistonbroke |
My bad maths , a 70% more infectable virus would push the r number to 1.7 which it is not |
Up to 70%.
The rise in CV-19 has happened with Tiers in place. It was expected R would fall.
It is estimated to be between 1.2 and. 1.4, with up to 0.4 of that being attributed to the new strain. |  | | |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:53 - Dec 20 with 3149 views | pistonbroke |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:48 - Dec 20 by eireblue |
Up to 70%.
The rise in CV-19 has happened with Tiers in place. It was expected R would fall.
It is estimated to be between 1.2 and. 1.4, with up to 0.4 of that being attributed to the new strain. |
Up to 70% so it’s guess work then | | | |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:56 - Dec 20 with 3139 views | jeera |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:53 - Dec 20 by pistonbroke |
Up to 70% so it’s guess work then |
You have literally just posted this:
"Now I keep reading about this so called new strain that is meant to be according to the figures 70% more transmittable , now if that is the case why is the r number not 70 instead of around the 1"
and then dismissed people who work in the field as using guess work. |  |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:57 - Dec 20 with 3129 views | Keno |
Make you proud that we have the best mutants |  |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 19:02 - Dec 20 with 3110 views | Ryorry |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:44 - Dec 20 by StokieBlue |
Mutations are random and can happen anywhere, there is no reason to compare mutations in one place to another by the number of cases. For instance, before this latest strain most of the cases in the UK and around Europe were from a strain which originated in Spain in the summer.
The reason this one has taken off is simply because the mutations are beneficial. Everything is then played out via Darwinism.
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Ah, thanks. | |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 19:10 - Dec 20 with 3075 views | eireblue |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:53 - Dec 20 by pistonbroke |
Up to 70% so it’s guess work then |
Why a guess and not a mathematical estimate? | | | |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 19:26 - Dec 20 with 3023 views | StokieBlue |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:53 - Dec 20 by pistonbroke |
Up to 70% so it’s guess work then |
No, it's an informed upper limit based on observable facts and modelling.
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 19:39 - Dec 20 with 2962 views | J2BLUE |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:30 - Dec 20 by pistonbroke |
Now I keep reading about this so called new strain that is meant to be according to the figures 70% more transmittable , now if that is the case why is the r number not 70 instead of around the 1 |
Genius |  |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 20:22 - Dec 20 with 2885 views | factual_blue |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:57 - Dec 20 by Keno |
Make you proud that we have the best mutants |
You always have to make it about norfolk, don't you? | |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 20:23 - Dec 20 with 2868 views | Ryorry |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 20:22 - Dec 20 by factual_blue |
You always have to make it about norfolk, don't you? |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 20:35 - Dec 20 with 2819 views | factual_blue |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:44 - Dec 20 by StokieBlue |
Mutations are random and can happen anywhere, there is no reason to compare mutations in one place to another by the number of cases. For instance, before this latest strain most of the cases in the UK and around Europe were from a strain which originated in Spain in the summer.
The reason this one has taken off is simply because the mutations are beneficial. Everything is then played out via Darwinism.
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The strain from Spain came mainly on the plane. | |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 22:25 - Dec 20 with 2579 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 20:35 - Dec 20 by factual_blue |
The strain from Spain came mainly on the plane. |
But in Herefordshire it hardly ever happens. |  |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 22:53 - Dec 20 with 2511 views | factual_blue |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 22:25 - Dec 20 by Pinewoodblue |
But in Herefordshire it hardly ever happens. |
In Herefordshire nothing ever happens. | |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 22:56 - Dec 20 with 2508 views | factual_blue |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 19:10 - Dec 20 by eireblue |
Why a guess and not a mathematical estimate? |
Next you'll be telling me these scientists, epidemiologists and statisticians know what they're doing. | |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 23:10 - Dec 20 with 2475 views | Ryorry |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 22:56 - Dec 20 by factual_blue |
Next you'll be telling me these scientists, epidemiologists and statisticians know what they're doing. |
Apparently they don't always! Really interesting prog on BBC R4 earlier this eve, 'Scientists in the Spotlight'. Jim Al-Khalili finds out how The Life Scientific has changed during the pandemic -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000q9gj | |
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 00:40 - Dec 21 with 2370 views | HARRY10 |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 18:30 - Dec 20 by pistonbroke |
Now I keep reading about this so called new strain that is meant to be according to the figures 70% more transmittable , now if that is the case why is the r number not 70 instead of around the 1 |
because the r number is just guesswork
about one step up from what Russel Grant peddles | | | |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 07:58 - Dec 21 with 2189 views | StokieBlue |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 00:40 - Dec 21 by HARRY10 |
because the r number is just guesswork
about one step up from what Russel Grant peddles |
What's the point in posting rubbish like this?
There is a difference between informed estimation and guesswork and calling one the other really isn't helpful.
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| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 08:08 - Dec 21 with 2167 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Why did this mutant strain originate from SE England? 🤔 on 07:58 - Dec 21 by StokieBlue |
What's the point in posting rubbish like this?
There is a difference between informed estimation and guesswork and calling one the other really isn't helpful.
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Is this now being regarded as different to the Danish variant?
Saying this morning that the spike is different...what are you instincts about efficacy of the vaccines in this regard? |  |
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