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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown 17:27 - Dec 21 with 1219 viewsFrimleyBlue

Poor bloke having to be lead by boris

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 17:29 - Dec 21 with 1218 viewspointofblue

Reporter: Stop over-promising and under delivering.
Boris: We’ll be in much better position by Easter.

It’d be hilarious if this wasn’t so serious.

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 17:34 - Dec 21 with 1169 viewsChurchman

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 17:29 - Dec 21 by pointofblue

Reporter: Stop over-promising and under delivering.
Boris: We’ll be in much better position by Easter.

It’d be hilarious if this wasn’t so serious.


He didn’t say which Easter, to be fair
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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 17:39 - Dec 21 with 1149 viewsPinewoodblue

The most obvious restriction would be to impose a limit as to how far you can travel from your home ( main residence) should have been done already.

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 17:42 - Dec 21 with 1127 viewspointofblue

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 17:39 - Dec 21 by Pinewoodblue

The most obvious restriction would be to impose a limit as to how far you can travel from your home ( main residence) should have been done already.


They must surely be preparing for a national lockdown after Christmas; I’m not sure why they’re against saying it? Probably because of the backbenchers who all have supposedly much better ideas on how to handle this.

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 17:42 - Dec 21 with 1122 viewsWestStanderLaLaLa

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 17:29 - Dec 21 by pointofblue

Reporter: Stop over-promising and under delivering.
Boris: We’ll be in much better position by Easter.

It’d be hilarious if this wasn’t so serious.


*cancels plans for Easter*
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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 19:47 - Dec 21 with 965 viewsbluebudgie

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 17:42 - Dec 21 by pointofblue

They must surely be preparing for a national lockdown after Christmas; I’m not sure why they’re against saying it? Probably because of the backbenchers who all have supposedly much better ideas on how to handle this.


Why another national lockdown?,,its not as if the others have worked !

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 19:49 - Dec 21 with 956 viewsm14_blue

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 19:47 - Dec 21 by bluebudgie

Why another national lockdown?,,its not as if the others have worked !


Define what you mean by ‘worked’.

They were never designed to eradicate the virus, they were meant to slow the spread of the virus.

How many cases/deaths do you think we would have had without the lockdowns?
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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 23:36 - Dec 21 with 794 viewsStokieBlue

Seems the calls for a national lockdown are growing:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/21/calls-for-national-lockdown-in-

He won't change it before Christmas so I expect a press conference on the 26th/27th and a national lockdown to be announced. Hard to see how anything else can happen if they want any hope at all of containing the strain (and even a national lockdown in the previous forms won't be enough).

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 23:43 - Dec 21 with 780 viewsvapour_trail

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 23:36 - Dec 21 by StokieBlue

Seems the calls for a national lockdown are growing:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/21/calls-for-national-lockdown-in-

He won't change it before Christmas so I expect a press conference on the 26th/27th and a national lockdown to be announced. Hard to see how anything else can happen if they want any hope at all of containing the strain (and even a national lockdown in the previous forms won't be enough).

SB


What’s your thinking on schools?

I’m anticipating my boy in primary going back, perhaps a week late.

My daughter in secondary going on line, with years 11 and 13 in the classroom. My daughter learning online until Easter minimum.

If it’s worse than that, I’m in bits.

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 23:51 - Dec 21 with 761 viewsStokieBlue

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 23:43 - Dec 21 by vapour_trail

What’s your thinking on schools?

I’m anticipating my boy in primary going back, perhaps a week late.

My daughter in secondary going on line, with years 11 and 13 in the classroom. My daughter learning online until Easter minimum.

If it’s worse than that, I’m in bits.


I think that's probably all reasonable as a baseline.

However there are unconfirmed theories that the new virus spreads easier via children, possibly because the increased infectiousness is due to the virus being able to create a large load of itself within the host and thus probably enough to make children far more contagious.

If that turns out to be true then I expect you'll see all schools including primaries closed for a month or two.

Not ideal I know but at least the above is all only supposition.

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 23:55 - Dec 21 with 745 viewsvapour_trail

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 23:51 - Dec 21 by StokieBlue

I think that's probably all reasonable as a baseline.

However there are unconfirmed theories that the new virus spreads easier via children, possibly because the increased infectiousness is due to the virus being able to create a large load of itself within the host and thus probably enough to make children far more contagious.

If that turns out to be true then I expect you'll see all schools including primaries closed for a month or two.

Not ideal I know but at least the above is all only supposition.

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[Post edited 21 Dec 2020 23:51]


FFS.

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 23:59 - Dec 21 with 720 viewsStokieBlue

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 23:55 - Dec 21 by vapour_trail

FFS.


Don't worry yet:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-variant-children/uk-coronav

There is a hint in the data but more research is needed.

SB

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 00:09 - Dec 22 with 700 viewsJ2BLUE

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 17:29 - Dec 21 by pointofblue

Reporter: Stop over-promising and under delivering.
Boris: We’ll be in much better position by Easter.

It’d be hilarious if this wasn’t so serious.


He's almost certainly right though.

The numbers are going to be pretty bad for the next couple of months. That's already factored in. By Easter we'll have plenty vaccinated and the weather will be beginning to turn.

I very much doubt like will be back to 'normal' but it should be quite a bit better.

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 02:45 - Dec 22 with 643 viewsbluebudgie

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 19:49 - Dec 21 by m14_blue

Define what you mean by ‘worked’.

They were never designed to eradicate the virus, they were meant to slow the spread of the virus.

How many cases/deaths do you think we would have had without the lockdowns?


What I mean by worked is that if they had of worked there would be no need for lock down after lockdown. The case could also be used against masks ,if they worked why is there so many getting covid?

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Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 04:28 - Dec 22 with 599 viewsCoastalblue

Patrick basically saying yes we need national lockdown on 02:45 - Dec 22 by bluebudgie

What I mean by worked is that if they had of worked there would be no need for lock down after lockdown. The case could also be used against masks ,if they worked why is there so many getting covid?


But that's precisely the point of masks and lockdowns, to slow the spread and allow some semblance of life and productivity to continue. Masks and lockdowns aren't a cure, they're just a treatment to stop it getting so bad we can no longer cope as a country.

If we didn't have working vaccines, and hopefully we do, we'd be looking at masks and periodic lockdowns as on ongoing thing, potentially for years.

One person refusing to wear a mask could infect dozens of others, just because you have a mask on doesn't make you immune to the virus on surfaces where that selfish git sneezed, one inadvertant touch of your face or rub of your eyes could see you infected mask or no mask.

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