| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK 16:13 - Jan 8 with 6086 views | Darth_Koont |
We’ve even seen the UK warning signs over the last 5 years or so, as this article points out.
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2021/01/americas-capitol-riots-could-come-to-britain-to
One particular aspect that jumps out is that 45% of Republicans supported the siege even seeing the footage. That’s not extremism in the classic image of loons on the fringe but this is saying that there’s a foundation of normalised support – and I definitely think we’ve seen a similar mainstream radicalisation in the UK around Brexit and identity issues. Coupled with the rapid rise in far-right domestic terrorism and an already flawed, untrusted democracy, it doesn’t seem we’re a massive leap away from something major if the “wrong” people get into power. Or even just challenge the narrative like BLM did.
The latest addition of GB News and News UK TV into an already over-represented right-wing media, the new BBC Chairman and Director General both being Tories and the government being Tory itself don’t mean that the sting is taken out of it and that people will stand down. Quite the opposite – this is part and parcel of the normalisation that will embolden extremism. In fact there may be a battle over consumers and voters (and giving people what they want) that confirms beliefs and pushes the nationalism, identity and othering even further.
And on that cheery note, time for a Friday beer and the start of the weekend! COYB! 😀
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 02:12 - Jan 9 with 1290 views | monytowbray |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 02:02 - Jan 9 by bournemouthblue |
Lest we forget that Jo Cox was killed by a far-right terrorist
And there have been other plots to kill MPs that have been foiled so it is happening
Tommy Robinson managed to have a protest by his supporters outside Bellmarsh for example
It is certainly possible |
But let’s not also forget if/when it happens there will probably be a few left wing folks floating around the area too. Which is a bit weird and suspicious, isn’t it?!
Imagine thinking you are politically informed and then sharing the same disproven fake narrative as right wing Qbots?!
Thank the lord for balance. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 2:13]
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:02 - Jan 9 with 1240 views | lowhouseblue |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 02:12 - Jan 9 by monytowbray |
But let’s not also forget if/when it happens there will probably be a few left wing folks floating around the area too. Which is a bit weird and suspicious, isn’t it?!
Imagine thinking you are politically informed and then sharing the same disproven fake narrative as right wing Qbots?!
Thank the lord for balance. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 2:13]
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who used the word suspicious? - i only referred to it as stupid.
i haven't shared a disproven fake narrative - i have copied something from the bbc that seems to be undisputed and I then described what the person did as weird and stupid.
which bit upsets you - me copying something undisputed from the bbc or me describing what the person did as weird and stupid? |  |
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:21 - Jan 9 with 1216 views | PhilTWTD |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 02:12 - Jan 9 by monytowbray |
But let’s not also forget if/when it happens there will probably be a few left wing folks floating around the area too. Which is a bit weird and suspicious, isn’t it?!
Imagine thinking you are politically informed and then sharing the same disproven fake narrative as right wing Qbots?!
Thank the lord for balance. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 2:13]
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Although in this instance not actually the case:
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-protester-antifa-photo/fact-check-p |  | | |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:21 - Jan 9 with 1215 views | DanTheMan |
Yeah, he gets around. Lots of pictures of him at other protests with QAnon signs. Guy is obviously a bit of a nutter. |  |
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:32 - Jan 9 with 1199 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:21 - Jan 9 by DanTheMan |
Yeah, he gets around. Lots of pictures of him at other protests with QAnon signs. Guy is obviously a bit of a nutter. |
A nutter? Whatever gave yiu that idea?
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:35 - Jan 9 with 1195 views | DanTheMan |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:32 - Jan 9 by GlasgowBlue |
A nutter? Whatever gave yiu that idea?
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Ah some old school conspiracy theories in there too. Can't get away from the classic ones based on antisemitism it seems. | |
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:43 - Jan 9 with 1191 views | GlasgowBlue |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:35 - Jan 9 by DanTheMan |
Ah some old school conspiracy theories in there too. Can't get away from the classic ones based on antisemitism it seems. |
Scratch the surface of most conspiracy theories and that’s what it tends to come back to.
Marlon Solomon does a very good one man show upon the subject of conspiracies. | |
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:44 - Jan 9 with 1190 views | eireblue |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:32 - Jan 9 by GlasgowBlue |
A nutter? Whatever gave yiu that idea?
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This is what happens when librarians aren’t available to guide people between the Fiction and non-Fiction sections. |  | | |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:59 - Jan 9 with 1174 views | gordon |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:32 - Jan 9 by GlasgowBlue |
A nutter? Whatever gave yiu that idea?
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 13:09 - Jan 9 with 1138 views | monytowbray |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 10:02 - Jan 9 by lowhouseblue |
who used the word suspicious? - i only referred to it as stupid.
i haven't shared a disproven fake narrative - i have copied something from the bbc that seems to be undisputed and I then described what the person did as weird and stupid.
which bit upsets you - me copying something undisputed from the bbc or me describing what the person did as weird and stupid? |
You said it was was “weird”.
Double down if you like, I’m not bothered. All you’ve done in this thread is demonstrated you really don’t pay attention and gather facts, but rather shout from the sidelines at those opposing threats to society in the name of centralist faux-intellect.
This isn’t a new development, just further evidence. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 13:16]
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 13:11 - Jan 9 with 1136 views | monytowbray |
Of course it’s not. I was just sharing it to show Lowhouse how he continually pushes pro-alt right fake news and rethoric in the name of balance. That account is part of a bot or troll farm psyops network. It has all the signs.
These people are known Nazis, their photo is on a local ANTIFA collective site as unsurprisingly they are being flagged/monitored by said group.
That’s what’s so weird about political Twitter these days, not so much the politicians and influencers as the fake echo chamber and support that then validates a wider community of people into believing this stuff has legs.
In marketing, we call it “fake it until you make it”. People are more likely trust a business that looks more legit than it really is.
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 13:37 - Jan 9 with 1118 views | lowhouseblue |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 13:11 - Jan 9 by monytowbray |
Of course it’s not. I was just sharing it to show Lowhouse how he continually pushes pro-alt right fake news and rethoric in the name of balance. That account is part of a bot or troll farm psyops network. It has all the signs.
These people are known Nazis, their photo is on a local ANTIFA collective site as unsurprisingly they are being flagged/monitored by said group.
That’s what’s so weird about political Twitter these days, not so much the politicians and influencers as the fake echo chamber and support that then validates a wider community of people into believing this stuff has legs.
In marketing, we call it “fake it until you make it”. People are more likely trust a business that looks more legit than it really is.
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so to you copying verbatim something from the bbc, something which is undisputed, has since been reported very widely and now includes quotes from the weird and stupid idiot involved, is "pro-alt right fake news and rethoric". what a weird little world you have built for yourself. | |
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 13:52 - Jan 9 with 1096 views | monytowbray |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 13:37 - Jan 9 by lowhouseblue |
so to you copying verbatim something from the bbc, something which is undisputed, has since been reported very widely and now includes quotes from the weird and stupid idiot involved, is "pro-alt right fake news and rethoric". what a weird little world you have built for yourself. |
It’s not a world I built, someone else built it for these brainwashed Trumpers who question their own reality.
You sharing stuff as open ended weirdness is you supporting that narrative.
Your claim of it being an innocent link to the Beeb whilst also claiming I’m making stuff up and none of this exists shows how poorly informed you are. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 13:54]
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 14:13 - Jan 9 with 1063 views | lowhouseblue |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 13:52 - Jan 9 by monytowbray |
It’s not a world I built, someone else built it for these brainwashed Trumpers who question their own reality.
You sharing stuff as open ended weirdness is you supporting that narrative.
Your claim of it being an innocent link to the Beeb whilst also claiming I’m making stuff up and none of this exists shows how poorly informed you are. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 13:54]
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i find a prominent blm campaigner being part of the violent right wing mob trying to break into the congress chamber weird. most people would find it weird. he was within feet of the woman who was shot. it has been widely reported - the idiot concerned admits it. i'm not supporting any narrative - that bit is entirely in your head. i was commenting on a factual news story because it was weird.
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 14:31 - Jan 9 with 1033 views | monytowbray |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 14:13 - Jan 9 by lowhouseblue |
i find a prominent blm campaigner being part of the violent right wing mob trying to break into the congress chamber weird. most people would find it weird. he was within feet of the woman who was shot. it has been widely reported - the idiot concerned admits it. i'm not supporting any narrative - that bit is entirely in your head. i was commenting on a factual news story because it was weird.
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Most people with the ability to think rationally and not be agenda driven don’t struggle to understand that all.
Therefore perhaps you should stop posting and go read up on things you clearly don’t pay attention to. Because you’re just projecting at this point, seeing as you need a “translator” to engage in fairly basic topical political discourse. As mentioned earlier, this angle is doing nothing but digging you a deeper hole rather than a sharp knife of witty putdown.
Start here, perhaps dig deeper too and then respond: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/07/no-theres-no-substantive-evid
But after taking the above in, if these are the things you want to continue to encourage through “balance” or genuinely thinking these conspiracy theories have legs, that’s on you.
I’ve made the same point at least 5 times now, it’s Saturday and it’s not my job to read you the news. | |
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 15:12 - Jan 9 with 1002 views | lowhouseblue |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 14:31 - Jan 9 by monytowbray |
Most people with the ability to think rationally and not be agenda driven don’t struggle to understand that all.
Therefore perhaps you should stop posting and go read up on things you clearly don’t pay attention to. Because you’re just projecting at this point, seeing as you need a “translator” to engage in fairly basic topical political discourse. As mentioned earlier, this angle is doing nothing but digging you a deeper hole rather than a sharp knife of witty putdown.
Start here, perhaps dig deeper too and then respond: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/07/no-theres-no-substantive-evid
But after taking the above in, if these are the things you want to continue to encourage through “balance” or genuinely thinking these conspiracy theories have legs, that’s on you.
I’ve made the same point at least 5 times now, it’s Saturday and it’s not my job to read you the news. |
where have i suggested, implied, or even hinted, that the right wing violent invasion of the capitol was "spurred by antifa"? there is clearly no evidence of that - I have seen nothing credible to suggest that. what are you on about?
you need to stop imposing your own rather twisted slant on what others post. the narrative going on inside your head is your problem not other people's.
please stop suggesting that i have said things - or implied things - that i haven't. | |
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 15:29 - Jan 9 with 992 views | monytowbray |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 15:12 - Jan 9 by lowhouseblue |
where have i suggested, implied, or even hinted, that the right wing violent invasion of the capitol was "spurred by antifa"? there is clearly no evidence of that - I have seen nothing credible to suggest that. what are you on about?
you need to stop imposing your own rather twisted slant on what others post. the narrative going on inside your head is your problem not other people's.
please stop suggesting that i have said things - or implied things - that i haven't. |
When you share news with no context about non-right wing protesters being present at a clearly exclusive right wing terrorism event you feed this conspiracy it was a false flag operation by the left wing to frame Trump. We are quite literally into Nazi level propaganda at this point.
There is a base of extremely dangerous Trump supporters, who have been growing in mainstream validation for years as the news, social media and fence sitters stay complicit in allowing it to happen. Capitol Hill was not a surprise, it is reality catching up by getting a taste of what has allowed to fester for years.
These people don’t need a lot to go on for ammo in their views, and latch onto any small lie, even after debunked, to remain ignorant. I’ve been watching this movement grow for years from the easily manipulated “patriots” and fundamentalist Christian normies who believe what they read on FB to the extreme end with Pizzagate, Qanon and 4chan Incels following topless blokes with white supremacy tattoos wearing Viking horns. I’ve seen the bad actors and troll farm networks they retweet as they are incapable of telling the difference between fact and fiction at this point.
If you knew what you were on about you’d see that clearly. And see how your post really didn’t bat you up in a good light. But instead you’ve doubled down and pleaded ignorance.
“Yeah, didn’t think about that, my bad! I’d rather not accidently support these nutters!”
That response the first time round could have saved Gav two pages of bandwidth. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 15:30]
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 15:43 - Jan 9 with 970 views | giant_stow |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 15:29 - Jan 9 by monytowbray |
When you share news with no context about non-right wing protesters being present at a clearly exclusive right wing terrorism event you feed this conspiracy it was a false flag operation by the left wing to frame Trump. We are quite literally into Nazi level propaganda at this point.
There is a base of extremely dangerous Trump supporters, who have been growing in mainstream validation for years as the news, social media and fence sitters stay complicit in allowing it to happen. Capitol Hill was not a surprise, it is reality catching up by getting a taste of what has allowed to fester for years.
These people don’t need a lot to go on for ammo in their views, and latch onto any small lie, even after debunked, to remain ignorant. I’ve been watching this movement grow for years from the easily manipulated “patriots” and fundamentalist Christian normies who believe what they read on FB to the extreme end with Pizzagate, Qanon and 4chan Incels following topless blokes with white supremacy tattoos wearing Viking horns. I’ve seen the bad actors and troll farm networks they retweet as they are incapable of telling the difference between fact and fiction at this point.
If you knew what you were on about you’d see that clearly. And see how your post really didn’t bat you up in a good light. But instead you’ve doubled down and pleaded ignorance.
“Yeah, didn’t think about that, my bad! I’d rather not accidently support these nutters!”
That response the first time round could have saved Gav two pages of bandwidth. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 15:30]
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Pretending something inconvenient didn't happen is just as 'fake news' as anything trump says. Its beholden on decent people to accept truth, even if it's not helpful to their cause. |  |
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 15:54 - Jan 9 with 961 views | monytowbray |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 15:43 - Jan 9 by giant_stow |
Pretending something inconvenient didn't happen is just as 'fake news' as anything trump says. Its beholden on decent people to accept truth, even if it's not helpful to their cause. |
I’m not pretending the news isn’t real. It is. I am saying the way in which he framed it was dangerous.
It’s not weird in the slightest, nor stupid, to see left wing activists and journalists (many of which are independent) present at a right wing rally to document and research. And vise versa. It’s common as muck. In fact I’d say it’s much needed and dangerous work, so credit to those who do it. Society doesn’t combat terrorist threats by letting them get on with it and paying no attention afterall. Arguably that tactic is how this mess got so large to begin with.
Hell, that Twitter thread above has more intel and intelligence than the Police had based on how unprepared they were. Lowhouse this week has also supported the narrative pushed by a huge intel failure that nothing could have been predicted BTW, for some more context to this thread.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/capitol-rioters-planned-for-weeks-in-
Which in turn is Institutional racism in action too, but different discussion that.
But the angle took after it being spelt out clearly he was supporting alt right conspiracies with whatteraboutery and open ended questions is the issue, not the news itself. I think Lowhouse understands this exactly too. But in his weird mission for balance continually ends up supporting fascist brainwashing. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 16:11]
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 16:26 - Jan 9 with 921 views | lowhouseblue |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 15:29 - Jan 9 by monytowbray |
When you share news with no context about non-right wing protesters being present at a clearly exclusive right wing terrorism event you feed this conspiracy it was a false flag operation by the left wing to frame Trump. We are quite literally into Nazi level propaganda at this point.
There is a base of extremely dangerous Trump supporters, who have been growing in mainstream validation for years as the news, social media and fence sitters stay complicit in allowing it to happen. Capitol Hill was not a surprise, it is reality catching up by getting a taste of what has allowed to fester for years.
These people don’t need a lot to go on for ammo in their views, and latch onto any small lie, even after debunked, to remain ignorant. I’ve been watching this movement grow for years from the easily manipulated “patriots” and fundamentalist Christian normies who believe what they read on FB to the extreme end with Pizzagate, Qanon and 4chan Incels following topless blokes with white supremacy tattoos wearing Viking horns. I’ve seen the bad actors and troll farm networks they retweet as they are incapable of telling the difference between fact and fiction at this point.
If you knew what you were on about you’d see that clearly. And see how your post really didn’t bat you up in a good light. But instead you’ve doubled down and pleaded ignorance.
“Yeah, didn’t think about that, my bad! I’d rather not accidently support these nutters!”
That response the first time round could have saved Gav two pages of bandwidth. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 15:30]
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so i haven't suggested, implied, or even hinted, that the right wing violent invasion of the capitol was "spurred by antifa". you have not shown anywhere that i have. fine.
i copied something entirely factual from the bbc - it has been reported by many others and the individual involved has confirmed it to be true. all the rest is in your head - it's nothing to do with me. attacking the discussion of something because in your head mere mention of it might be associated with the baddies is just plain bonkers. | |
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 16:30 - Jan 9 with 911 views | monytowbray |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 16:26 - Jan 9 by lowhouseblue |
so i haven't suggested, implied, or even hinted, that the right wing violent invasion of the capitol was "spurred by antifa". you have not shown anywhere that i have. fine.
i copied something entirely factual from the bbc - it has been reported by many others and the individual involved has confirmed it to be true. all the rest is in your head - it's nothing to do with me. attacking the discussion of something because in your head mere mention of it might be associated with the baddies is just plain bonkers. |
Open ended questions about why a left wing activist was at a right wing protest is a tactic straight from Charlie Kirk’s book, all that is missing is the 🤔 at the end.
I’ve demonstrated that countless times and you’ve stuck your fingers in your ears.
Again, based on your continual ignorance in this thread I expect you to have no idea what I’m on about.
That’s the issue Lowhouse, you implied exactly what you claim you didn’t. You are either being disingenuous or unraveling yourself as ill-informed. Neither are a great look.
Again - Saturday, you have Google and access to news, go figure it out for yourself. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 16:33]
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 16:37 - Jan 9 with 889 views | WD19 |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 16:30 - Jan 9 by monytowbray |
Open ended questions about why a left wing activist was at a right wing protest is a tactic straight from Charlie Kirk’s book, all that is missing is the 🤔 at the end.
I’ve demonstrated that countless times and you’ve stuck your fingers in your ears.
Again, based on your continual ignorance in this thread I expect you to have no idea what I’m on about.
That’s the issue Lowhouse, you implied exactly what you claim you didn’t. You are either being disingenuous or unraveling yourself as ill-informed. Neither are a great look.
Again - Saturday, you have Google and access to news, go figure it out for yourself. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 16:33]
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To be fair to lowhouse, I suspect quite a few on here are ignorant of what is going on in your head. It’s clear no conspiracy was implied. He was simply passing personal comment on something he found a little odd/surprising. Turns out for those in the know it’s not as surprising as one might initially think. The end. |  | | |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 16:37 - Jan 9 with 897 views | lowhouseblue |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 15:54 - Jan 9 by monytowbray |
I’m not pretending the news isn’t real. It is. I am saying the way in which he framed it was dangerous.
It’s not weird in the slightest, nor stupid, to see left wing activists and journalists (many of which are independent) present at a right wing rally to document and research. And vise versa. It’s common as muck. In fact I’d say it’s much needed and dangerous work, so credit to those who do it. Society doesn’t combat terrorist threats by letting them get on with it and paying no attention afterall. Arguably that tactic is how this mess got so large to begin with.
Hell, that Twitter thread above has more intel and intelligence than the Police had based on how unprepared they were. Lowhouse this week has also supported the narrative pushed by a huge intel failure that nothing could have been predicted BTW, for some more context to this thread.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/capitol-rioters-planned-for-weeks-in-
Which in turn is Institutional racism in action too, but different discussion that.
But the angle took after it being spelt out clearly he was supporting alt right conspiracies with whatteraboutery and open ended questions is the issue, not the news itself. I think Lowhouse understands this exactly too. But in his weird mission for balance continually ends up supporting fascist brainwashing. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 16:11]
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"It’s not weird in the slightest, nor stupid, to see left wing activists and journalists (many of which are independent) present at a right wing rally to document and research."
leftwing journalists at a right wing rally - absolutely, why not. but i think that's what's known as a straw man. prominent blm activists invading the capital with a violent right wing mob, climbing through a window forced by that mob, and then joining the group attempting to force it's way into the congress chamber when a woman was shot dead. do you not see the difference? can you really not see that that is weird and stupid thing for someone to do?
"Lowhouse this week has also supported the narrative pushed by a huge intel failure that nothing could have been predicted BTW"
no i didn't. i made one joke about how you wouldn't normally expect a presidential rally to lead to a violent invasion of the capitol. nothing else.
what a lot of genuinely delusional nonsense you post. i'm leaving this thread here, there's little point in engaging with you. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 16:39]
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| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 17:33 - Jan 9 with 865 views | monytowbray |
| I think the Capitol siege is a decent warning for the UK on 16:37 - Jan 9 by lowhouseblue |
"It’s not weird in the slightest, nor stupid, to see left wing activists and journalists (many of which are independent) present at a right wing rally to document and research."
leftwing journalists at a right wing rally - absolutely, why not. but i think that's what's known as a straw man. prominent blm activists invading the capital with a violent right wing mob, climbing through a window forced by that mob, and then joining the group attempting to force it's way into the congress chamber when a woman was shot dead. do you not see the difference? can you really not see that that is weird and stupid thing for someone to do?
"Lowhouse this week has also supported the narrative pushed by a huge intel failure that nothing could have been predicted BTW"
no i didn't. i made one joke about how you wouldn't normally expect a presidential rally to lead to a violent invasion of the capitol. nothing else.
what a lot of genuinely delusional nonsense you post. i'm leaving this thread here, there's little point in engaging with you. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 16:39]
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Did you just try and claim me challenging your straw man is the straw man?? HA.
You need to spend less time justifying yourself and more time educating yourself, and it’s not my job to do that. I’ve explained it enough times. I’ve explained clear as day why they were there, no surprise you’d be confused by it seeing as you shout so much from the sidelines about your fantastic insights to both sides which oddly always seems to end in you arguing with the left. Are you a real person? The more I see of you the more I wonder if you are a troll farm account, designed to drain the energy of those who actually have things of value to add within political discourse.
Convenient the other post was just a joke now too. Also convenient you edited your first response to me about your “weird” post and added a reference to it just being a BBC link and nothing else meant by it, honest.
You are disingenuous, poorly informed and shout from a side of history that will change their story in 10 years time. I ain’t got time for it in the meantime, I’ll wait. [Post edited 9 Jan 2021 17:36]
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