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This year is going to be largely about the Tory party, from Johnson downwards, suddenly realising what they've signed up to. And thousands of British businesses, large and small, suffering the consequences of Tory ideology.
Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 07:47 - Jan 14 by Steve_M
This year is going to be largely about the Tory party, from Johnson downwards, suddenly realising what they've signed up to. And thousands of British businesses, large and small, suffering the consequences of Tory ideology.
The bit I triggered with is they they never seem to think they have done anything wrong
Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 07:47 - Jan 14 by Steve_M
This year is going to be largely about the Tory party, from Johnson downwards, suddenly realising what they've signed up to. And thousands of British businesses, large and small, suffering the consequences of Tory ideology.
Think they've known for a while how devastating what they're doing is, and they've just ploughed on regardless - this year will be about the Tory party gaslighting businesses, and Kier Starmer being too scared of upsetting what's left of the Brexity lot to do much about it.
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Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 08:45 - Jan 14 with 1247 views
Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 07:52 - Jan 14 by Keno
The bit I triggered with is they they never seem to think they have done anything wrong
Whilst not denying how appalling these people are, surely DEFRA has a while bunch of employed civil servants whose job it is to advise their ministers on the specifics and how they relate to the ministry.
Was it a 2 part piece? Maybe that's the next thing that comes out.
That she was briefed and still said the nativity trail came first, whatever that is.
Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 08:45 - Jan 14 by Pendejo
Whilst not denying how appalling these people are, surely DEFRA has a while bunch of employed civil servants whose job it is to advise their ministers on the specifics and how they relate to the ministry.
Was it a 2 part piece? Maybe that's the next thing that comes out.
That she was briefed and still said the nativity trail came first, whatever that is.
The amazing part about this story is that she had the balls/honesty/stupidity* to admit to Lords subcommittee that she couldn't be fecked to do her job.
Obviously people need down time, but you'd think when a long expected critical agreement lands and there's only 24 hours to scrutinise it that you'd make yourself available whatever else is going on in your life (family emergencies aside).
I conclude that her actions here don't actually matter, as Johnson was going to go ahead irrespective of whatever she thought about the deal. So in that regard I have a bit of sympathy for her as she's just another scapegoat for Johnson's incompetence (badly negotiated deal, no time for scrutiny).
And I do hope that these awful reports coming out of the fishing ports of Scotland and the NE are just teething problems. It doesn't sound like they are as the extra paperwork is apparently always going to add delays, so the industry is Donald Ducked. But I hope somehow they find a way to minimise the damage as it's obvious they've been used and there was never any real interest in their industry.
Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 07:47 - Jan 14 by Steve_M
This year is going to be largely about the Tory party, from Johnson downwards, suddenly realising what they've signed up to. And thousands of British businesses, large and small, suffering the consequences of Tory ideology.
And the only time the vast majority of leavers will acknowledge any of it is when it hits them directly and personally (like the video of the regretful ifh market guy that's doing the rounds). Which it probably won't do for the majority of people and especially social media warriors, so we'll still have a large number of people failing to acknowledge that it was a monumental act of self-harm and still supporting this Vote Leave Government. So depressing.
Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 09:47 - Jan 14 by Swansea_Blue
And the only time the vast majority of leavers will acknowledge any of it is when it hits them directly and personally (like the video of the regretful ifh market guy that's doing the rounds). Which it probably won't do for the majority of people and especially social media warriors, so we'll still have a large number of people failing to acknowledge that it was a monumental act of self-harm and still supporting this Vote Leave Government. So depressing.
Yes, many people didn't expect any negative consequences to affect them, to be fair most who voted leave did so because they were told there would be no downsides.
One of the good things about the structure, rather than the depth, of this deal is that it at least allows a platform to build back a stronger relationship with the EU. Identifying areas where the UK public are happy to cede sovereignty for economic benefits might allow a political consensus in a way that any attempt to rejoin the EU wouldn't.
Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 09:40 - Jan 14 by Swansea_Blue
The amazing part about this story is that she had the balls/honesty/stupidity* to admit to Lords subcommittee that she couldn't be fecked to do her job.
Obviously people need down time, but you'd think when a long expected critical agreement lands and there's only 24 hours to scrutinise it that you'd make yourself available whatever else is going on in your life (family emergencies aside).
I conclude that her actions here don't actually matter, as Johnson was going to go ahead irrespective of whatever she thought about the deal. So in that regard I have a bit of sympathy for her as she's just another scapegoat for Johnson's incompetence (badly negotiated deal, no time for scrutiny).
And I do hope that these awful reports coming out of the fishing ports of Scotland and the NE are just teething problems. It doesn't sound like they are as the extra paperwork is apparently always going to add delays, so the industry is Donald Ducked. But I hope somehow they find a way to minimise the damage as it's obvious they've been used and there was never any real interest in their industry.
*Delete as appropriate.
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The fishing industry was just being used as a prawn.
Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 07:47 - Jan 14 by Steve_M
This year is going to be largely about the Tory party, from Johnson downwards, suddenly realising what they've signed up to. And thousands of British businesses, large and small, suffering the consequences of Tory ideology.
Bbbbbut, the day the deal got done, Johnson made out it was just great for the fishing industry. Surely he wasn't lying?
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Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 11:36 - Jan 14 with 1029 views
Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 08:45 - Jan 14 by Pendejo
Whilst not denying how appalling these people are, surely DEFRA has a while bunch of employed civil servants whose job it is to advise their ministers on the specifics and how they relate to the ministry.
Was it a 2 part piece? Maybe that's the next thing that comes out.
That she was briefed and still said the nativity trail came first, whatever that is.
In answer to you question, DEFRA was one of the key government departments in the run up to Brexit. What it is responsible for was and is extremely complex. While movement of everything between UK and EU wasn’t known about before 2016, as a key element of brexit planning, it was by 31st March 2019 along with border requirements each way in the event of no deal. If the minister really didn’t have an understanding, I’d be amazed. Gove as ex DEFRA dude would have done.
The imposition of rules by the EU in the way they appear to be doing it looks purely political to me. From an economic perspective a 6 month adjustment period, which I believe the U.K. is operating on imports, is entirely sensible and of benefit to U.K. and EU business in the long term. The risk posed by agri-products, for example, doesn’t change overnight. It does of course over time. Businesses here and in the EU (people’s livelihoods) will be unnecessarily harmed by this approach and personally, I don’t see any benefit in that other than to the ‘I told you so’, ‘you brought it on yourselves’ brigade.
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Tory Government Incompetence part ......infnity on 12:07 - Jan 14 with 989 views
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