| This could get interesting 23:53 - Jan 18 with 1404 views | StokieBlue |
The Lords have inserted an amendment into the Trade Bill which would mean that the UK courts could decide if a country was committing genocide (rather than international courts) and thus withdraw any trade deals done with that country. It seems to be specifically aimed at China but obviously would have scope to cover any other countries as well.
It seems to have some Tory backbench support as well as support from Labour (who tabled the amendment).
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/18/rebels-aim-to-insert-genocide-amen
I am assuming the Tories will still get it past but they are going to have to stand up and argue against a UK court being able to declare a genocide.
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| This could get interesting on 00:41 - Jan 19 with 1306 views | HARRY10 |
The Commons could simply vote to reject the amendment, and vote to pass the Bill as it originally stood |  | | |
| This could get interesting on 08:22 - Jan 19 with 1135 views | StokieBlue |
| This could get interesting on 00:41 - Jan 19 by HARRY10 |
The Commons could simply vote to reject the amendment, and vote to pass the Bill as it originally stood |
Thanks, perhaps surprisingly to you I'm aware how the commons operates.
You've missed my point though.
If they do that then they are stating that the UK courts aren't really as important as international courts (which goes against everything they said with brexit).
Furthermore they would be less implicitly stating that they are more worried about trade deals that genocide given this would give the UK courts the ability to block the deals and they don't want to give them that power as it's more likely they will declare herbicide than and international court and all that goes on around them.
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| This could get interesting on 08:42 - Jan 19 with 1088 views | GeoffSentence |
| This could get interesting on 08:22 - Jan 19 by StokieBlue |
Thanks, perhaps surprisingly to you I'm aware how the commons operates.
You've missed my point though.
If they do that then they are stating that the UK courts aren't really as important as international courts (which goes against everything they said with brexit).
Furthermore they would be less implicitly stating that they are more worried about trade deals that genocide given this would give the UK courts the ability to block the deals and they don't want to give them that power as it's more likely they will declare herbicide than and international court and all that goes on around them.
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Already they are trying to water it down.
Amendment tabled. High court can rule on genocide, but a minister must then arrange for a debate calling on the government to take action which could include revocation ofva trade deal. |  |
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| This could get interesting on 08:46 - Jan 19 with 1078 views | StokieBlue |
| This could get interesting on 08:42 - Jan 19 by GeoffSentence |
Already they are trying to water it down.
Amendment tabled. High court can rule on genocide, but a minister must then arrange for a debate calling on the government to take action which could include revocation ofva trade deal. |
It's really not a good look to be trying to find ways to allow trade with a country which has been determined to be committing genocide by the UK courts.
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| This could get interesting on 08:56 - Jan 19 with 1050 views | GeoffSentence |
| This could get interesting on 08:46 - Jan 19 by StokieBlue |
It's really not a good look to be trying to find ways to allow trade with a country which has been determined to be committing genocide by the UK courts.
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it's about 'taking back control' apparently. We didn't take it back from the EU just to give it to our own courts. | |
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| This could get interesting on 08:58 - Jan 19 with 1041 views | Bluefish |
| This could get interesting on 08:22 - Jan 19 by StokieBlue |
Thanks, perhaps surprisingly to you I'm aware how the commons operates.
You've missed my point though.
If they do that then they are stating that the UK courts aren't really as important as international courts (which goes against everything they said with brexit).
Furthermore they would be less implicitly stating that they are more worried about trade deals that genocide given this would give the UK courts the ability to block the deals and they don't want to give them that power as it's more likely they will declare herbicide than and international court and all that goes on around them.
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You are rather prickly lately. Is all OK? |  |
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| This could get interesting on 09:13 - Jan 19 with 1000 views | footers |
I wonder if Yemen would breach a 'genocide' threshold too?
It's an interesting move, but one I sincerely doubt will get through with this lot in. |  |
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| This could get interesting on 09:18 - Jan 19 with 982 views | StokieBlue |
| This could get interesting on 08:58 - Jan 19 by Bluefish |
You are rather prickly lately. Is all OK? |
Don't think it was prickly, it was pointing out that he had missed the entire point and that his response was rather condescending.
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| This could get interesting on 11:39 - Jan 19 with 870 views | jeera |
| This could get interesting on 09:18 - Jan 19 by StokieBlue |
Don't think it was prickly, it was pointing out that he had missed the entire point and that his response was rather condescending.
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That means speaking down to people Fishers. |  |
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| This could get interesting on 11:43 - Jan 19 with 854 views | Bluefish |
| This could get interesting on 11:39 - Jan 19 by jeera |
That means speaking down to people Fishers. |
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| This could get interesting on 20:25 - Jan 19 with 711 views | StokieBlue |
So it was defeated and we can still do trade deals with genocidal regimes.
Meanwhile, the US, who everyone has rightly been bashing for the last few years declared China a genocidal regime.
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