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Trump supporters on radio 13:38 - Jan 20 with 2222 viewsreusersfreekicks

Honestly!! They still think he won the election.
All the more shockingly they think he is a good man who has their interests at heart! How can sooo many people be conned, it just never ceases to amaze me. The believe his lies and ignore his abuses. Like Germany in the 30s
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Trump supporters on radio on 13:46 - Jan 20 with 1552 viewsGavTWTD

How do you go about changing their minds?

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Trump supporters on radio on 13:47 - Jan 20 with 1549 viewsfooters

Trump supporters on radio on 13:46 - Jan 20 by GavTWTD

How do you go about changing their minds?


Inject them with bleach.

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Trump supporters on radio on 13:47 - Jan 20 with 1545 viewsGuthrum

Trump supporters on radio on 13:46 - Jan 20 by GavTWTD

How do you go about changing their minds?


Brain transplant?

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Trump supporters on radio on 13:48 - Jan 20 with 1540 viewsJ2BLUE

Melania looks pretty happy.

Odds on divorce before the end of 2021?

Truly impaired.
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Trump supporters on radio on 13:52 - Jan 20 with 1519 viewsSpruceMoose

They've built their entire identity, and entire life around him. These are people, much like many Brexiteers, who have tasted very little success in life, rarely have they been top of the pile, have always blamed the wrong people for their woes, but for the last four years they've been 'winning'. It must have been intoxicating, but now it's over they must be grief stricken.

Ultimately for all Trump's talk, despite having their guy in office for four years, their lives will be no better than before. They're still uneducated, too poor to afford healthcare, and with no real hope of their lives improving. All they have done is demonise the only people who genuinely have an interest in helping them, vowing to resist them even while they're trying to help them.

In addition, when you consider their racism, sexism, bigotry and a general contempt for anyone who isn't like them into the mix, combine that with the idea that they have absolutely loved seeing 'all the right people' get hurt these last four years and stand back, it's easy to see why they turn their anger in the wrong direction.

Even if they have a tiny sliver of doubt about Trump, they will never, ever admit out loud that they have been utterly mugged off and have spent the last for years playing henchmen for Dr. Evil.

It really is a cult, and watch as Trump now takes them for every penny they have.

Pronouns: He/Him/His. "Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
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Trump supporters on radio on 13:57 - Jan 20 with 1493 viewsdavblue

Trump supporters on radio on 13:52 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

They've built their entire identity, and entire life around him. These are people, much like many Brexiteers, who have tasted very little success in life, rarely have they been top of the pile, have always blamed the wrong people for their woes, but for the last four years they've been 'winning'. It must have been intoxicating, but now it's over they must be grief stricken.

Ultimately for all Trump's talk, despite having their guy in office for four years, their lives will be no better than before. They're still uneducated, too poor to afford healthcare, and with no real hope of their lives improving. All they have done is demonise the only people who genuinely have an interest in helping them, vowing to resist them even while they're trying to help them.

In addition, when you consider their racism, sexism, bigotry and a general contempt for anyone who isn't like them into the mix, combine that with the idea that they have absolutely loved seeing 'all the right people' get hurt these last four years and stand back, it's easy to see why they turn their anger in the wrong direction.

Even if they have a tiny sliver of doubt about Trump, they will never, ever admit out loud that they have been utterly mugged off and have spent the last for years playing henchmen for Dr. Evil.

It really is a cult, and watch as Trump now takes them for every penny they have.


He doesn't care one iota for them, if he walked past them in the street and they were on fire he wouldn't even p1ss on them.

He's scum as is his family. Awful, awful people.
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Trump supporters on radio on 14:01 - Jan 20 with 1472 viewsKeno

just like Town fans thinking Lambert is ok

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:03 - Jan 20 with 1471 viewsElderGrizzly

Trump supporters on radio on 13:52 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

They've built their entire identity, and entire life around him. These are people, much like many Brexiteers, who have tasted very little success in life, rarely have they been top of the pile, have always blamed the wrong people for their woes, but for the last four years they've been 'winning'. It must have been intoxicating, but now it's over they must be grief stricken.

Ultimately for all Trump's talk, despite having their guy in office for four years, their lives will be no better than before. They're still uneducated, too poor to afford healthcare, and with no real hope of their lives improving. All they have done is demonise the only people who genuinely have an interest in helping them, vowing to resist them even while they're trying to help them.

In addition, when you consider their racism, sexism, bigotry and a general contempt for anyone who isn't like them into the mix, combine that with the idea that they have absolutely loved seeing 'all the right people' get hurt these last four years and stand back, it's easy to see why they turn their anger in the wrong direction.

Even if they have a tiny sliver of doubt about Trump, they will never, ever admit out loud that they have been utterly mugged off and have spent the last for years playing henchmen for Dr. Evil.

It really is a cult, and watch as Trump now takes them for every penny they have.


One last bit of vanity, is he demanded to leave DC before noon, as he would still leave as President and it would still be on AF1.

After noon, he needed to ask Biden's permission to use the plane...
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Trump supporters on radio on 14:05 - Jan 20 with 1454 viewsHerbivore

Trump supporters on radio on 13:46 - Jan 20 by GavTWTD

How do you go about changing their minds?


With a sledgehammer.

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:05 - Jan 20 with 1462 viewsSpruceMoose

Trump supporters on radio on 13:46 - Jan 20 by GavTWTD

How do you go about changing their minds?


Apologies for the long reply, but you ask a question I've been pondering.

To be honest Gav, and I say this as someone with extended family who are definitely in the cult, I think these people are lost. You're asking them to change their entire identity and accept they have been anti-American for the last four years.

I've thought about it a lot, and have concluded that generation MAGA are done. Finished. Beyond help. Give them a chance to change, but if they insist on behaving like terrorists then I insist that they be treated like it.

First off, their can be no unity without accountability. There need to be visible consequences for the politicians and businesses who have supported this hateful worldview over the last four years.

Moving on to the voters, the best thing to counter MAGA worldviews in the long run is to improve education and economic conditions for the poor. If they don't believe you when you say that life can be better, do it anyway and show them the results. I don't think the current generation can be saved though, instead it will be a long project involving their children.

America needs an education overhaul. Children need to have a genuinely outward looking educational curriculum. American exceptionalism needs to be consigned to the bin. Critical thinking needs to emphasised. No more of this business of presenting creationism as the equal counterpart to evolution. There should be an actual, meaningful separation between church and state.

Children also need to be taught the real origins of their country - no more of this friendly pilgrim, brave explorer Columbus lie. They need to learn how to speak truth to power, to evaluate sources, to be skeptics.

I have no idea how, but social media needs to be controlled and muzzled. Facebook, YouTube etc. are a torrent that undermines decency and fact. It can't continue this way.

Pronouns: He/Him/His. "Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
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Trump supporters on radio on 14:07 - Jan 20 with 1453 viewsDarth_Koont

To understand the “logic”, this is a very good and relevant read here, even though it’s about QAnon:

https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-5809725

And apologies! Think it was monytowbray who posted it but I had it open as a tab and only got round to reading it this morning.

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:09 - Jan 20 with 1445 viewsSpruceMoose

Trump supporters on radio on 13:57 - Jan 20 by davblue

He doesn't care one iota for them, if he walked past them in the street and they were on fire he wouldn't even p1ss on them.

He's scum as is his family. Awful, awful people.


Of course. If you stand back and try and look at it from a distance, the most insane aspect of all this is that they are willing to sacrifice everything for DONALD TRUMP - the joke billionaire who bankrupted casinos, and before being laughed out of NY, stood for every East coast elite standard that you can think of.

Pronouns: He/Him/His. "Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
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Trump supporters on radio on 14:09 - Jan 20 with 1441 viewsjaykay

he made sure in his leaving speech , that any success biden gets , will be down to his presidency.

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:14 - Jan 20 with 1426 viewsSpruceMoose

Trump supporters on radio on 14:03 - Jan 20 by ElderGrizzly

One last bit of vanity, is he demanded to leave DC before noon, as he would still leave as President and it would still be on AF1.

After noon, he needed to ask Biden's permission to use the plane...


It gave me a massive level of satisfaction to wake up today knowing that for all his lying and bluster he's still a human being, and must be feeling awful today. I don't know whether his feelings come in the form of sadness, rage, sulking, denial, vengefulness... but I do know that they can't be what we would associate with positive or pleasant emotions.

Today is the day reality intrudes on the fantasy world he's built around himself. He's lost. Another person is now star of the show. The only people he has left to fawn over him are the people he despises and will forced to grift off for the rest of his life. He's no longer relevant other than to see what happens to him next. He's a freak show, a traveling band of oddities, curiosities and disappointments.

It's funny really, the reality TV star has finally become the show. Maybe he doesn't know it, but the worst thing that ever happened to him was winning the Presidency.

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:20 - Jan 20 with 1410 viewsOldsmoker

Trump supporters on radio on 13:52 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

They've built their entire identity, and entire life around him. These are people, much like many Brexiteers, who have tasted very little success in life, rarely have they been top of the pile, have always blamed the wrong people for their woes, but for the last four years they've been 'winning'. It must have been intoxicating, but now it's over they must be grief stricken.

Ultimately for all Trump's talk, despite having their guy in office for four years, their lives will be no better than before. They're still uneducated, too poor to afford healthcare, and with no real hope of their lives improving. All they have done is demonise the only people who genuinely have an interest in helping them, vowing to resist them even while they're trying to help them.

In addition, when you consider their racism, sexism, bigotry and a general contempt for anyone who isn't like them into the mix, combine that with the idea that they have absolutely loved seeing 'all the right people' get hurt these last four years and stand back, it's easy to see why they turn their anger in the wrong direction.

Even if they have a tiny sliver of doubt about Trump, they will never, ever admit out loud that they have been utterly mugged off and have spent the last for years playing henchmen for Dr. Evil.

It really is a cult, and watch as Trump now takes them for every penny they have.


I saw a YouTube vid that listed his inauguration speech promises and what he actually did. I can't find it to link to as there is a deluge of these types of vid on the net at the moment.

Obamacare - get rid and replace
Infrastructure - new roads, bridges, railways
Jobs - more jobs, bring back steel, coal and auto jobs
Drain the swamp

That's just what I remember but he did none of them.
He had 4 years to fix it but in his 2020 rallies he blamed the Democrats for failing to deliver these promises - WTF???

He says he didn't start any wars. The Kurds were US allies and he deserted them, meaning the Kurds were thrust into a new conflict to try to survive. He started that one.

Over the next 2 or 3 years there are a lot of people who have no interest in 'healing' or 'uniting' and they will have their vengence on Trump - and he deserves what's coming to him.

The popcorn is always on standby.

Don't believe a word I say. I'm only kidding. Or am I?
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Trump supporters on radio on 14:20 - Jan 20 with 1405 viewsfactual_blue

Trump supporters on radio on 14:05 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

Apologies for the long reply, but you ask a question I've been pondering.

To be honest Gav, and I say this as someone with extended family who are definitely in the cult, I think these people are lost. You're asking them to change their entire identity and accept they have been anti-American for the last four years.

I've thought about it a lot, and have concluded that generation MAGA are done. Finished. Beyond help. Give them a chance to change, but if they insist on behaving like terrorists then I insist that they be treated like it.

First off, their can be no unity without accountability. There need to be visible consequences for the politicians and businesses who have supported this hateful worldview over the last four years.

Moving on to the voters, the best thing to counter MAGA worldviews in the long run is to improve education and economic conditions for the poor. If they don't believe you when you say that life can be better, do it anyway and show them the results. I don't think the current generation can be saved though, instead it will be a long project involving their children.

America needs an education overhaul. Children need to have a genuinely outward looking educational curriculum. American exceptionalism needs to be consigned to the bin. Critical thinking needs to emphasised. No more of this business of presenting creationism as the equal counterpart to evolution. There should be an actual, meaningful separation between church and state.

Children also need to be taught the real origins of their country - no more of this friendly pilgrim, brave explorer Columbus lie. They need to learn how to speak truth to power, to evaluate sources, to be skeptics.

I have no idea how, but social media needs to be controlled and muzzled. Facebook, YouTube etc. are a torrent that undermines decency and fact. It can't continue this way.


You're about to launch SpruceBook aren't you? The social media platform with a social conscience and antlers.

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:23 - Jan 20 with 1396 viewsSpruceMoose

Trump supporters on radio on 14:20 - Jan 20 by factual_blue

You're about to launch SpruceBook aren't you? The social media platform with a social conscience and antlers.


SpruceSpace is an upcoming platform for all your disinformation and second hand car needs.

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:26 - Jan 20 with 1393 viewsGuthrum

Trump supporters on radio on 13:52 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

They've built their entire identity, and entire life around him. These are people, much like many Brexiteers, who have tasted very little success in life, rarely have they been top of the pile, have always blamed the wrong people for their woes, but for the last four years they've been 'winning'. It must have been intoxicating, but now it's over they must be grief stricken.

Ultimately for all Trump's talk, despite having their guy in office for four years, their lives will be no better than before. They're still uneducated, too poor to afford healthcare, and with no real hope of their lives improving. All they have done is demonise the only people who genuinely have an interest in helping them, vowing to resist them even while they're trying to help them.

In addition, when you consider their racism, sexism, bigotry and a general contempt for anyone who isn't like them into the mix, combine that with the idea that they have absolutely loved seeing 'all the right people' get hurt these last four years and stand back, it's easy to see why they turn their anger in the wrong direction.

Even if they have a tiny sliver of doubt about Trump, they will never, ever admit out loud that they have been utterly mugged off and have spent the last for years playing henchmen for Dr. Evil.

It really is a cult, and watch as Trump now takes them for every penny they have.


He did the same thing as Hitler, promising a revolution to help the working class then, once in power, cosying up to big business instead. At least Adolf gave them jobs by kick-starting an arms race.

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:34 - Jan 20 with 1372 viewsSpruceMoose

Trump supporters on radio on 14:26 - Jan 20 by Guthrum

He did the same thing as Hitler, promising a revolution to help the working class then, once in power, cosying up to big business instead. At least Adolf gave them jobs by kick-starting an arms race.


Should have gone to war with Iran and North Korea and then everything would have turned out fine!

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:37 - Jan 20 with 1359 viewsKeno

Trump supporters on radio on 14:23 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

SpruceSpace is an upcoming platform for all your disinformation and second hand car needs.


Will this run along Sprucehub, Sprucetube and Those were the Spruceys?

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:39 - Jan 20 with 1354 viewsSpruceMoose

Trump supporters on radio on 14:37 - Jan 20 by Keno

Will this run along Sprucehub, Sprucetube and Those were the Spruceys?


Yes, along with my lifestyle platform aimed at taking on Gwyneth Paltrow.

https://www.thespruce.com/

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:43 - Jan 20 with 1337 viewsGuthrum

Trump supporters on radio on 14:05 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

Apologies for the long reply, but you ask a question I've been pondering.

To be honest Gav, and I say this as someone with extended family who are definitely in the cult, I think these people are lost. You're asking them to change their entire identity and accept they have been anti-American for the last four years.

I've thought about it a lot, and have concluded that generation MAGA are done. Finished. Beyond help. Give them a chance to change, but if they insist on behaving like terrorists then I insist that they be treated like it.

First off, their can be no unity without accountability. There need to be visible consequences for the politicians and businesses who have supported this hateful worldview over the last four years.

Moving on to the voters, the best thing to counter MAGA worldviews in the long run is to improve education and economic conditions for the poor. If they don't believe you when you say that life can be better, do it anyway and show them the results. I don't think the current generation can be saved though, instead it will be a long project involving their children.

America needs an education overhaul. Children need to have a genuinely outward looking educational curriculum. American exceptionalism needs to be consigned to the bin. Critical thinking needs to emphasised. No more of this business of presenting creationism as the equal counterpart to evolution. There should be an actual, meaningful separation between church and state.

Children also need to be taught the real origins of their country - no more of this friendly pilgrim, brave explorer Columbus lie. They need to learn how to speak truth to power, to evaluate sources, to be skeptics.

I have no idea how, but social media needs to be controlled and muzzled. Facebook, YouTube etc. are a torrent that undermines decency and fact. It can't continue this way.


In 1945, the Germans had the rude awakening of losing a war, invasion and occupation, plus the full revelation of the horrors of the Holocaust. There is no comparable event at the end of Trump's time in the White House to provoke a mental clean break for his devotees.

Psychologically, their only regret is that they "failed". If they are still True Believers in 2021 then nothing has happened to discredit the ideal of Trumpism. Tho there will be some who fall away when the Democrat-communist apocalypse fails to materialise and others who lose interest with the QAnon prophecies not coming to pass.

I suspect MAGA will recede for a time, before returning in a disguised, more mainstream form in a few years.

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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Trump supporters on radio on 14:45 - Jan 20 with 1319 viewsSpruceMoose

Trump supporters on radio on 14:43 - Jan 20 by Guthrum

In 1945, the Germans had the rude awakening of losing a war, invasion and occupation, plus the full revelation of the horrors of the Holocaust. There is no comparable event at the end of Trump's time in the White House to provoke a mental clean break for his devotees.

Psychologically, their only regret is that they "failed". If they are still True Believers in 2021 then nothing has happened to discredit the ideal of Trumpism. Tho there will be some who fall away when the Democrat-communist apocalypse fails to materialise and others who lose interest with the QAnon prophecies not coming to pass.

I suspect MAGA will recede for a time, before returning in a disguised, more mainstream form in a few years.


A quiet, competent MAGA is truly a thing to be concerned about.

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Trump supporters on radio on 14:59 - Jan 20 with 1292 viewsStokieBlue

Trump supporters on radio on 14:45 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

A quiet, competent MAGA is truly a thing to be concerned about.


Did you see they were outside Comet protesting again?

Doesn't seem to have gone the way they hoped though:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/01/19/conspiracy-theorists-target-comet-ping-

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Trump supporters on radio on 15:00 - Jan 20 with 1292 viewsGuthrum

Trump supporters on radio on 14:45 - Jan 20 by SpruceMoose

A quiet, competent MAGA is truly a thing to be concerned about.


Yes, altho if you consider the revivals of rebranded former communist parties in Eastern Europe from the later 1990s on, that movement into the mainstream considerably blunted their ideological extremism and authoritarian tendencies.
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