| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road 16:32 - Jan 22 with 1889 views | J2BLUE |
The NFL have announced that 22,000 fans will be allowed into Raymond James Stadium for the Super Bowl. One third capacity at the standard 66,000 non expanded capacity. 7500 will be vaccinated health care workers which could be a brilliant idea if they are spaced out between the non vaccinated fans. I know there's no data on whether they can still transmit the virus but it's worth a go if they're protected.
Apparently UEFA have three options. Tournament behind closed doors, 20-30% and 50-100% so will probably be watching with interest.
WWE are said to be watching how things go with plans for 25,000 at Wrestlemania (again one third capacity as the stadium can hold 75,000 for 'special events')
Could we see something like this next season? 10,000 at PR with a proportion being set aside for the vaccinated? |  |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:34 - Jan 22 with 1659 views | SpruceMoose |
We are also closing in on 500,000 dead people, so UEFA probably shouldn't look to the Americans for guidance. |  |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:35 - Jan 22 with 1655 views | Ewan_Oozami |
10,000?
That's made my Friday afternoon that has!!! |  |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:36 - Jan 22 with 1650 views | J2BLUE |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:35 - Jan 22 by Ewan_Oozami |
10,000?
That's made my Friday afternoon that has!!! |
I'm not saying it will happen, I was throwing the idea out there. | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:37 - Jan 22 with 1638 views | J2BLUE |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:34 - Jan 22 by SpruceMoose |
We are also closing in on 500,000 dead people, so UEFA probably shouldn't look to the Americans for guidance. |
Well yes, and safety is the first priority, but the NFL consulted the local health authorities etc. Will be interesting to see how it goes. | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:41 - Jan 22 with 1603 views | homer_123 |
Given the paucity of quality football on offer at PR - I have to say I'm really not missing it.
Factor in that you can't really 'do' the match day experience that we normally do (beers et al, meeting up in numbers etc etc) I'm happy to wait a bit longer until we can go back 'normally'.
Completely understand others will want to go sooner, respect that. |  |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:43 - Jan 22 with 1576 views | Moriarty |
As I understand it, the issue isn’t being spaced out (in the physical sense) in the stadium but rather the converging/gathering before and after and also entering and exiting. Beer will flow and people will do what they do at occasions like this.
I imagine a spike it the cities who take part in Super Bowl is probably inevitable as people gather to watch in homes, bars, etc and celebrate the occasion. |  |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:44 - Jan 22 with 1569 views | bluelagos |
Why would you use a stadium with just 66k capacity when there are plenty significantly larger?
Same for the Euros. If they go for x% then surely the larger stadiums should be used. (Assuming they can make travel to/from stadia safe)
Having said all that, I just can't see any serious reduction in restrictions in the UK before the summer tbh. So for Ipswich, I think we have seen all the live football we can expect would be my bet. |  |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:45 - Jan 22 with 1567 views | SpruceMoose |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:37 - Jan 22 by J2BLUE |
Well yes, and safety is the first priority, but the NFL consulted the local health authorities etc. Will be interesting to see how it goes. |
I suppose my issue with it hasn't changed. Even if you can control the stadium environment, you still have the completely uncontrolled environment of thousands of people traveling from all over the place to get there. | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:46 - Jan 22 with 1561 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Don’t think it’s that significant, fans have been allowed in for NFL games in limited numbers for most of the season depending on the laws of each state. Indeed the Bucs have had fans at home games since October
The only real significant bit is the free tickets to healthcare workers which is a welcome gesture but doesn’t provide any learnings from a hosting live sport perspective |  |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:52 - Jan 22 with 1531 views | J2BLUE |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:46 - Jan 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Don’t think it’s that significant, fans have been allowed in for NFL games in limited numbers for most of the season depending on the laws of each state. Indeed the Bucs have had fans at home games since October
The only real significant bit is the free tickets to healthcare workers which is a welcome gesture but doesn’t provide any learnings from a hosting live sport perspective |
Not anywhere near those numbers though unless i've missed it? | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:54 - Jan 22 with 1526 views | homer_123 |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:44 - Jan 22 by bluelagos |
Why would you use a stadium with just 66k capacity when there are plenty significantly larger?
Same for the Euros. If they go for x% then surely the larger stadiums should be used. (Assuming they can make travel to/from stadia safe)
Having said all that, I just can't see any serious reduction in restrictions in the UK before the summer tbh. So for Ipswich, I think we have seen all the live football we can expect would be my bet. |
Current lockdown was passed by Parliament to run to end of March.
Numbers 'appear' to be levelling in a number of areas however, with the current strain, any relaxation will again see those levels increase quickly again.
So - it really is tough to see what's going to happen differently in the short/ medium term. | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:55 - Jan 22 with 1517 views | J2BLUE |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:54 - Jan 22 by homer_123 |
Current lockdown was passed by Parliament to run to end of March.
Numbers 'appear' to be levelling in a number of areas however, with the current strain, any relaxation will again see those levels increase quickly again.
So - it really is tough to see what's going to happen differently in the short/ medium term. |
Yea I said next season, I agree that we won't be back at PR this season and rightfully so. | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:58 - Jan 22 with 1510 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:44 - Jan 22 by bluelagos |
Why would you use a stadium with just 66k capacity when there are plenty significantly larger?
Same for the Euros. If they go for x% then surely the larger stadiums should be used. (Assuming they can make travel to/from stadia safe)
Having said all that, I just can't see any serious reduction in restrictions in the UK before the summer tbh. So for Ipswich, I think we have seen all the live football we can expect would be my bet. |
Superbowls are awarded years in advance and would be an absolute legal minefield given there would no doubt have been huge sums spent on getting things ready
No doubt there would be some practical challenges too for things like travel/hotel arrangements which will have long been sorted for staff, press, entertainment etc and all the other events and stuff that comes with Superbowl week
There are certainly larger options out there - some college stadiums have capacities in excess of 100k however there is a relatively small list of stadiums which tend to be rotated for Superbowls - mainly as the NFL look for the event to be held somewhere warm and modern rather than say in the Michigan winter
Obviously none of the above is insurmountable if there was really impetus to move it but any suggestion of moving it was always going to be a non-starter really | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:59 - Jan 22 with 1499 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:52 - Jan 22 by J2BLUE |
Not anywhere near those numbers though unless i've missed it? |
Cowboys-Steelers had 32k people in attendance | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 17:11 - Jan 22 with 1465 views | J2BLUE |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:59 - Jan 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Cowboys-Steelers had 32k people in attendance |
Bloody hell. | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 18:32 - Jan 22 with 1373 views | judespiveyg |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 17:11 - Jan 22 by J2BLUE |
Bloody hell. |
Jerryworld holds about 100,000 though so percentages are similar to the SB. Obviously without vaccinated healthcare workers though. |  |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 18:52 - Jan 22 with 1341 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 18:32 - Jan 22 by judespiveyg |
Jerryworld holds about 100,000 though so percentages are similar to the SB. Obviously without vaccinated healthcare workers though. |
Capacity of AT&T is 80k | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 18:58 - Jan 22 with 1322 views | TractorWood |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 16:55 - Jan 22 by J2BLUE |
Yea I said next season, I agree that we won't be back at PR this season and rightfully so. |
Football season should be in the summer imho. Pointless being in Winter with a clearly seasonal virus. |  |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 19:04 - Jan 22 with 1316 views | judespiveyg |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 18:52 - Jan 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Capacity of AT&T is 80k |
According to wikipedia its expandable to 105,000
Also in the 2019 season the Cowboys didn't have a home crowd smaller than 90,000 so percentage is still about the same. I'd be surprised if they bothered to take seats out.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/attendance.htm | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 19:08 - Jan 22 with 1309 views | SuffolkPOSH |
The Superbowl & Wrestlemania are bot being held in Florida, a state who's senators basically opened up everything at the earliest opportunity after their first lockdown. They were Trumps go to state to have his mass campaign gatherings as the Florida senators shared Trumps belief that the virus was nothing to worry about and that all businesses should operate as normal and wearing masks was not important. Therefore I wouldn't look at Florida as the norm but rather as the exception.
UEFA might keep an eye on the outcome of these events but you only need to look at Sturgis motorcycle rally last summer and the various spikes across the country after that event. I suspect the Euro's will be played in one country with no away fans attending and maybe not even any home fans attending. The question is which country would want to host the event, with the possibility of hosting it with no crowds or risking a huge rise in their R rate. Other option are that 2021 is cancelled or alternatively they could hold it on zoom. |  | | |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 19:58 - Jan 22 with 1236 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
The Ray Jay has a higher potential capacity than quoted in this thread too - and presumably would have been at the upper level for the Superbowl in normal times
Not really sure what point you’re trying to make here tbh. J2 suggested that the Superbowl would provide a test case, I was simply pointing out that it doesn’t really give any additional learnings as American Football games were already taking place with those types of crowds (or indeed larger in the case of Dallas - both in total size and % terms) [Post edited 22 Jan 2021 19:59]
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 20:01 - Jan 22 with 1216 views | J2BLUE |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 19:58 - Jan 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
The Ray Jay has a higher potential capacity than quoted in this thread too - and presumably would have been at the upper level for the Superbowl in normal times
Not really sure what point you’re trying to make here tbh. J2 suggested that the Superbowl would provide a test case, I was simply pointing out that it doesn’t really give any additional learnings as American Football games were already taking place with those types of crowds (or indeed larger in the case of Dallas - both in total size and % terms) [Post edited 22 Jan 2021 19:59]
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Well it's going to be a test case for WWE. I'm sure UEFA are watching everything like this with interest. | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 20:02 - Jan 22 with 1214 views | wkj |
The odd thing about WWE pay per views is creatively they have been bearable since lockdown.
I do worry about NFL though. As I am sure you know, tailgate parties are a huge part of superbowl weekend, and that is where the problems are going to lie. As a life long KCC fan, I have family provisionally booking their superbowl vacations and really are making jokes about covid with some saying "Worth it".
I was the only liberal child in a family of conservatives... and it really is starting to do my head in more and more. |  |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 20:09 - Jan 22 with 1190 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 20:01 - Jan 22 by J2BLUE |
Well it's going to be a test case for WWE. I'm sure UEFA are watching everything like this with interest. |
Ah, I didn’t realise Wrestlemania was being held there too - in that case yes they can
Not sure what UEFA will learn that isn’t already known from other events though | |
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| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 21:02 - Jan 22 with 1134 views | billlm |
| Crowds @ Euros/Super Bowl/Wrestlemania/Portman Road on 19:58 - Jan 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
The Ray Jay has a higher potential capacity than quoted in this thread too - and presumably would have been at the upper level for the Superbowl in normal times
Not really sure what point you’re trying to make here tbh. J2 suggested that the Superbowl would provide a test case, I was simply pointing out that it doesn’t really give any additional learnings as American Football games were already taking place with those types of crowds (or indeed larger in the case of Dallas - both in total size and % terms) [Post edited 22 Jan 2021 19:59]
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I've been there a few times, it's a big open stadium, 22k could be well spaced, the concourses are big and mostly open aired, |  | | |
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