| So, that Gansta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:35 - Feb 4 with 682 views | Churchman |
| So, that Gansta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:07 - Feb 4 by bluelagos |
I am with you Ulla.
The truth is not one person on this thread knows what circumstances/pressures the child in question lives under. But that won't stop the queue of people looking to put the boot in nonetheless.
He acted stupidly. No question. Show me a 15 year old who hasn't and I'll show you a liar. |
Pressure? He’s hardly having to go to work to supplement a household income, Cratchit style. There is no excuse for his behaviour. He is 15 not 5 and fully knew what he was doing.
He did it to look cool and because he thought he could. He also knew that Whitty could not respond and if he did, he would record it. Taking away his PlayStation? Awwww, how will he cope? |  | |  |
| So, that Gansta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:46 - Feb 4 with 663 views | bluelagos |
| So, that Gansta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:35 - Feb 4 by Churchman |
Pressure? He’s hardly having to go to work to supplement a household income, Cratchit style. There is no excuse for his behaviour. He is 15 not 5 and fully knew what he was doing.
He did it to look cool and because he thought he could. He also knew that Whitty could not respond and if he did, he would record it. Taking away his PlayStation? Awwww, how will he cope? |
Yeah, pressure.
Although you obviously think you know all about his home situation, his schooling, where he lives, what his relationships are, whether he is safe and secure at home, the upcoming exams he may be struggling with.
You obviously know all that and are quite happy to condemn a child. A child ffs. Think about that for a minute, especially given that Chris Whitty was quite content to laugh it off. But you think you have the right to condemn someone you don't know, based on one stupid act.
I'll leave you to it, and everyone else who wants to join the baying mob queuing up to shame/condemn a child who's done something a bit stupid. |  |
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| So, that Gansta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:51 - Feb 4 with 654 views | jeera |
| So, that Gansta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:46 - Feb 4 by bluelagos |
Yeah, pressure.
Although you obviously think you know all about his home situation, his schooling, where he lives, what his relationships are, whether he is safe and secure at home, the upcoming exams he may be struggling with.
You obviously know all that and are quite happy to condemn a child. A child ffs. Think about that for a minute, especially given that Chris Whitty was quite content to laugh it off. But you think you have the right to condemn someone you don't know, based on one stupid act.
I'll leave you to it, and everyone else who wants to join the baying mob queuing up to shame/condemn a child who's done something a bit stupid. |
"As Whitty was buying lunch at a Mexican food stall in a street in central London, the 15-year-old boy is heard saying to Whitty: “You’re a liar. You lie about the Covid-19 cases … stop lying to the TV, man.”"
I blame the parents. |  |
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| So, that Gansta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:52 - Feb 4 with 648 views | Churchman |
| So, that Gansta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:46 - Feb 4 by bluelagos |
Yeah, pressure.
Although you obviously think you know all about his home situation, his schooling, where he lives, what his relationships are, whether he is safe and secure at home, the upcoming exams he may be struggling with.
You obviously know all that and are quite happy to condemn a child. A child ffs. Think about that for a minute, especially given that Chris Whitty was quite content to laugh it off. But you think you have the right to condemn someone you don't know, based on one stupid act.
I'll leave you to it, and everyone else who wants to join the baying mob queuing up to shame/condemn a child who's done something a bit stupid. |
He’s 15. He knew exactly what he was doing. I bet you did at that age. I certainly did. Believe me, I was no angel, but I and my friends knew the consequences of our actions, which could be far more severe than losing a PlayStation. | | | |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:55 - Feb 4 with 648 views | rgp1 |
If the lad had been sensible he could asked Prof Witty if strangulation of the economy by means of lockdown is a viable and sensible policy or indeed if he believes the distinguished professors such as Heneghan bhakdi and gupta are all wrong! |  | | |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:08 - Feb 4 with 622 views | footers |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:55 - Feb 4 by rgp1 |
If the lad had been sensible he could asked Prof Witty if strangulation of the economy by means of lockdown is a viable and sensible policy or indeed if he believes the distinguished professors such as Heneghan bhakdi and gupta are all wrong! |
Asking an epidemeologist about economics wouldn't be sensible, no. That's not his job. |  |
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:09 - Feb 4 with 620 views | J2BLUE |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:55 - Feb 4 by rgp1 |
If the lad had been sensible he could asked Prof Witty if strangulation of the economy by means of lockdown is a viable and sensible policy or indeed if he believes the distinguished professors such as Heneghan bhakdi and gupta are all wrong! |
And the distinguished professors, scientists and experts who vastly outnumber them who think their ideas are stupid? |  |
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:20 - Feb 4 with 584 views | DanTheMan |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:09 - Feb 4 by J2BLUE |
And the distinguished professors, scientists and experts who vastly outnumber them who think their ideas are stupid? |
Not just stupid, but unethical. |  |
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:22 - Feb 4 with 583 views | rgp1 |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:09 - Feb 4 by J2BLUE |
And the distinguished professors, scientists and experts who vastly outnumber them who think their ideas are stupid? |
Not so the medics I mentioned still validate hand washing distancing etc they just believe throttling the economy is dangerous in the long term. | | | |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:27 - Feb 4 with 568 views | rgp1 |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:08 - Feb 4 by footers |
Asking an epidemeologist about economics wouldn't be sensible, no. That's not his job. |
That might be the case but as Chris the chap known as the naked scientist said on radio last that a bankrupt economy cannot afford a health service. | | | |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:33 - Feb 4 with 564 views | BlueBadger |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:22 - Feb 4 by rgp1 |
Not so the medics I mentioned still validate hand washing distancing etc they just believe throttling the economy is dangerous in the long term. |
Not nearly as dangerous as allowing a virus to 'let rip'.
And ultimately, more damaging to an economy. [Post edited 5 Feb 2021 15:41]
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:35 - Feb 4 with 553 views | jeera |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:22 - Feb 4 by rgp1 |
Not so the medics I mentioned still validate hand washing distancing etc they just believe throttling the economy is dangerous in the long term. |
But using emotive words such as "throttling" to describe the impact doesn't make it more pertinent.
It's also weird how this point about an increase in casualties from other ailments keeps cropping up; i.e. people are being neglected with cancelled appointments etc.
If you've got a serious illness the last place you wanna be right now is in a hospital if you can help it.
It seems that really the complaint is that Covid exists at all and that some people want to write in to some Points of View type panel demanding that it goes away. | |
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:42 - Feb 4 with 534 views | rgp1 |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:35 - Feb 4 by jeera |
But using emotive words such as "throttling" to describe the impact doesn't make it more pertinent.
It's also weird how this point about an increase in casualties from other ailments keeps cropping up; i.e. people are being neglected with cancelled appointments etc.
If you've got a serious illness the last place you wanna be right now is in a hospital if you can help it.
It seems that really the complaint is that Covid exists at all and that some people want to write in to some Points of View type panel demanding that it goes away. |
Anyone who thinks it doesn't exist is quite frankly living on another planet. However if you went to the hospital with a verruca and the doctor said he was cutting off your foot then how long would you stay? [Post edited 4 Feb 2021 20:43]
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:46 - Feb 4 with 524 views | rgp1 |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:33 - Feb 4 by BlueBadger |
Not nearly as dangerous as allowing a virus to 'let rip'.
And ultimately, more damaging to an economy. [Post edited 5 Feb 2021 15:41]
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Trouble is with assymtimatic people we have no idea how many have had it already. And the government did let it rip through their mismanagement of care homes | | | |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:47 - Feb 4 with 521 views | jeera |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:42 - Feb 4 by rgp1 |
Anyone who thinks it doesn't exist is quite frankly living on another planet. However if you went to the hospital with a verruca and the doctor said he was cutting off your foot then how long would you stay? [Post edited 4 Feb 2021 20:43]
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I think it's fair to say I'd be quite put out but being British I probably wouldn't want to make a fuss.
I actually don't understand the point you're making there, but that could well be me tbf.
It wouldn't be the first time. | |
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:52 - Feb 4 with 514 views | rgp1 |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:47 - Feb 4 by jeera |
I think it's fair to say I'd be quite put out but being British I probably wouldn't want to make a fuss.
I actually don't understand the point you're making there, but that could well be me tbf.
It wouldn't be the first time. |
The point essentially is that many think the medicine is worse than the disease. Yes there are people who don't think it exists as I said quite frankly they are mad but discussions on the subject of how we have responded to it must be had otherwise free speech is dead. FWIW I think the government is going to have to spend double what it has already to regenerate the economy. After all how do you tax 5 million unemployed? [Post edited 4 Feb 2021 20:56]
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 21:12 - Feb 4 with 489 views | jeera |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:52 - Feb 4 by rgp1 |
The point essentially is that many think the medicine is worse than the disease. Yes there are people who don't think it exists as I said quite frankly they are mad but discussions on the subject of how we have responded to it must be had otherwise free speech is dead. FWIW I think the government is going to have to spend double what it has already to regenerate the economy. After all how do you tax 5 million unemployed? [Post edited 4 Feb 2021 20:56]
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I still don't see what that has to do with people with existing ailments for one.
Those people not getting their appointments are better off out of the way. If you've been receiving chemo, this thing will kill you.
If there were no attempts to separate people from each other en masse, there would be tens of thousands of more deaths, both directly from the virus, and even more of those who would stand less chance of getting an appointment whilst this drags on even longer.
Where are you going to put everyone when hospital beds are full?
It is already rife and it shouldn't be beyond anyone to understand that if someone is ill and they don't see other people, that they cannot infect them too.
If you get onto a bus with any [infectious] illness, others are going to catch it.
The thought process is really straight forward on that. | |
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 21:54 - Feb 4 with 455 views | BlueBadger |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:46 - Feb 4 by rgp1 |
Trouble is with assymtimatic people we have no idea how many have had it already. And the government did let it rip through their mismanagement of care homes |
And indeed from September through to late December.
And now we're looking at another LONG lockdown. | |
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 21:55 - Feb 4 with 450 views | Churchman |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 21:12 - Feb 4 by jeera |
I still don't see what that has to do with people with existing ailments for one.
Those people not getting their appointments are better off out of the way. If you've been receiving chemo, this thing will kill you.
If there were no attempts to separate people from each other en masse, there would be tens of thousands of more deaths, both directly from the virus, and even more of those who would stand less chance of getting an appointment whilst this drags on even longer.
Where are you going to put everyone when hospital beds are full?
It is already rife and it shouldn't be beyond anyone to understand that if someone is ill and they don't see other people, that they cannot infect them too.
If you get onto a bus with any [infectious] illness, others are going to catch it.
The thought process is really straight forward on that. |
Totally right.
When this virus fires appeared, I thought the herd immunity argument held water. But events quickly proved that wrong. If you look at what has happened in Brazil, the result of ignoring it or making gestures are plain to see. Ignore the ridiculous stats, from all I’ve read the situation there, especially amongst the poor, has been desperate. The only estimate without the action taken is several hundred thousand deaths and a situation many times worse than it already is.
At every level you have to do what you can. It’s what people did in 1665 and every plague before and since. There is not economy verses virus. There is fight to contain the virus then build a better economy here and across the world; all aspects from poverty to climate. But the virus is a killer. A life changer for many that survive it. That comes first for me. | | | |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 21:59 - Feb 4 with 444 views | StokieBlue |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:52 - Feb 4 by rgp1 |
The point essentially is that many think the medicine is worse than the disease. Yes there are people who don't think it exists as I said quite frankly they are mad but discussions on the subject of how we have responded to it must be had otherwise free speech is dead. FWIW I think the government is going to have to spend double what it has already to regenerate the economy. After all how do you tax 5 million unemployed? [Post edited 4 Feb 2021 20:56]
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How "many" people think the medicine is worse than the disease. Can you quantify it?
It might be worse for you but it's certainly not worse for the 100,000+ who had died or the many more who would have died if we hadn't had restrictions.
Are you in an "at-risk" cohort?
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| So, that Gansta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 22:00 - Feb 4 with 442 views | StokieBlue |
| So, that Gansta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 19:07 - Feb 4 by bluelagos |
I am with you Ulla.
The truth is not one person on this thread knows what circumstances/pressures the child in question lives under. But that won't stop the queue of people looking to put the boot in nonetheless.
He acted stupidly. No question. Show me a 15 year old who hasn't and I'll show you a liar. |
This isn't what was said though BL.
His mum said he was trying to make a point about mental health to Whitty but that is clearly a total lie. We have the video which he himself posted showing it's a lie.
If she had referred to children suffering at home that would be different. Ulla is conflating two totally separate things.
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 22:05 - Feb 4 with 437 views | BlueBadger |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 20:52 - Feb 4 by rgp1 |
The point essentially is that many think the medicine is worse than the disease. Yes there are people who don't think it exists as I said quite frankly they are mad but discussions on the subject of how we have responded to it must be had otherwise free speech is dead. FWIW I think the government is going to have to spend double what it has already to regenerate the economy. After all how do you tax 5 million unemployed? [Post edited 4 Feb 2021 20:56]
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Like democracy, lockdowns are a terrible idea. Trouble is, all the other ideas are even worse. | |
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 22:06 - Feb 4 with 431 views | rgp1 |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 21:59 - Feb 4 by StokieBlue |
How "many" people think the medicine is worse than the disease. Can you quantify it?
It might be worse for you but it's certainly not worse for the 100,000+ who had died or the many more who would have died if we hadn't had restrictions.
Are you in an "at-risk" cohort?
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I don't think you can quantify any of the points it's just opinions and discussions unless we have any resident virologists on here. | | | |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 22:09 - Feb 4 with 426 views | vapour_trail |
Maybe it’s just me, but I find internet pile-ons, on children, pretty appalling. |  |
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| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 22:14 - Feb 4 with 406 views | m14_blue |
| So, that Gangsta what dissed Prof Whitty, right on 22:09 - Feb 4 by vapour_trail |
Maybe it’s just me, but I find internet pile-ons, on children, pretty appalling. |
In fairness, I’m not sure the MP who shared the video would have known it was a child.
I didn’t comment on the thread yesterday but did think he seemed like a bit of a d1ck and it never occurred to me he was a child. Obviously him being 15 puts things in a totally different context. | | | |
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