| Two sides of the Covid argument 07:29 - Feb 11 with 11795 views | ElderGrizzly |
One from a privileged Tory MP who has demanded we open up, the other from an actual scientist with evidence
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| Two sides of the Covid argument on 20:06 - Feb 11 with 1286 views | SpruceMoose |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 19:52 - Feb 11 by 26_Paz |
I honestly can’t think. Given your abusive nature I can guess the C. Haven’t a clue about the rest. |
If you want to throw it out to the audience I'm sure we'd all be willing to have a crack at it? |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Two sides of the Covid argument on 20:25 - Feb 11 with 1256 views | Ace_High1 |
Devi speaks every week, has been one of the best to listen to when she appears on Sky News. |  | | |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 23:09 - Feb 11 with 1192 views | 26_Paz |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 20:06 - Feb 11 by SpruceMoose |
If you want to throw it out to the audience I'm sure we'd all be willing to have a crack at it? |
I’m all ears.
My guess is Real, honest, marvellous, Conservative. |  |
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| Two sides of the Covid argument on 23:15 - Feb 11 with 1195 views | SpruceMoose |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 23:09 - Feb 11 by 26_Paz |
I’m all ears.
My guess is Real, honest, marvellous, Conservative. |
Seems like you're drunk again. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Two sides of the Covid argument on 23:18 - Feb 11 with 1183 views | Tonytown |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 23:09 - Feb 11 by 26_Paz |
I’m all ears.
My guess is Real, honest, marvellous, Conservative. |
I’m sure that’s right
Particularly the last one as the c is interchangeable between those words |  | | |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 23:22 - Feb 11 with 1184 views | SpruceMoose |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 23:18 - Feb 11 by Tonytown |
I’m sure that’s right
Particularly the last one as the c is interchangeable between those words |
I was going to go with 'Rarely Honest Malevolent Creep' myself. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Two sides of the Covid argument on 09:37 - Feb 13 with 1066 views | Herbivore |
You really think Matt Hancock is a good person to back you up?
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| Two sides of the Covid argument on 09:46 - Feb 13 with 1052 views | 26_Paz |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 09:37 - Feb 13 by Herbivore |
You really think Matt Hancock is a good person to back you up?
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He is the health secretary ... I think he knows more about the government’s plan to get out of this that you do, with respect. | |
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| Two sides of the Covid argument on 09:51 - Feb 13 with 1048 views | footers |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 09:46 - Feb 13 by 26_Paz |
He is the health secretary ... I think he knows more about the government’s plan to get out of this that you do, with respect. |
Matt Hancock didn't know a hospital in his own constituency didn't have an A and E.
I'm surprised he can tie his own laces. |  |
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| Two sides of the Covid argument on 10:23 - Feb 13 with 1019 views | eireblue |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 09:46 - Feb 13 by 26_Paz |
He is the health secretary ... I think he knows more about the government’s plan to get out of this that you do, with respect. |
Did you get this far Paz Man,
“ However, scientists have urged caution.”
Your English comprehension needs some work.
This is your stated position “ There are two sides to it, it’s about the amount of deaths that are deemed ‘acceptable’ to enable wider freedoms. Some think this amount is higher than others.”
That isn’t what the Health Secretary is stating.
What the Health Secretary is stating is that he is hoping that medical science and appropriate measures will bring this problem down to flu levels.
He is not advocating for your position, which is, look I need muh freedoms, like having a pint, so some people need to die.
Really Paz, you must try harder.
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| Two sides of the Covid argument on 11:18 - Feb 13 with 984 views | Herbivore |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 09:46 - Feb 13 by 26_Paz |
He is the health secretary ... I think he knows more about the government’s plan to get out of this that you do, with respect. |
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| Two sides of the Covid argument on 11:42 - Feb 13 with 962 views | BlueLikeJazz |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 09:46 - Feb 13 by 26_Paz |
He is the health secretary ... I think he knows more about the government’s plan to get out of this that you do, with respect. |
it isn't 'just like 'flu', and it isn't just about deaths:
I made this point to you before, to no avail as per usual. Still, hope springs eternal.... | | | |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 11:48 - Feb 13 with 952 views | Ace_High1 |
It is tough, as the infection and death stats fall more momentum will be behind opening up (and some of these industries desperately need to trade), but the only reason the rates are falling is due to the rules. As soon as we open up they grow.
It makes sense to wait for the Spring weather when we can then spend the vast majority of time outside. | | | |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 11:52 - Feb 13 with 945 views | StokieBlue |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 11:42 - Feb 13 by BlueLikeJazz |
it isn't 'just like 'flu', and it isn't just about deaths:
I made this point to you before, to no avail as per usual. Still, hope springs eternal.... |
The flu false equivalence has been one of the most long-lived and annoying fallacies of the pandemic.
An interesting push back would be which year the flu deaths were "acceptable" as a benchmark as if we go with this year there were very few flu deaths due to the C19 restrictions stopping flu transmission. The case for things like mask wearing on public transport during the winter is pretty strong but it'll never happen in any real way because of "freedom" and "liberty" and those that did decide to do it would no doubt be criticised by those who don't.
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| Two sides of the Covid argument on 12:01 - Feb 13 with 935 views | BLUEGOLD |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 09:46 - Feb 13 by 26_Paz |
He is the health secretary ... I think he knows more about the government’s plan to get out of this that you do, with respect. |
Paz fails again, what a surprise!! | | | |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 12:02 - Feb 13 with 933 views | Churchman |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 11:48 - Feb 13 by Ace_High1 |
It is tough, as the infection and death stats fall more momentum will be behind opening up (and some of these industries desperately need to trade), but the only reason the rates are falling is due to the rules. As soon as we open up they grow.
It makes sense to wait for the Spring weather when we can then spend the vast majority of time outside. |
That makes sense to me. The virus is transmitted by people so distancing is the only defence. Vaccine will help, but nobody knows to what extent yet.
Patience until the spring (say end of April?) would give a chance for the number of infected to fall to a manageable level. The testing capacity is 600k plus a day and track and trace is up over 90%, from what I’ve read. Without knowing, I suspect it needs more capacity and refinement. Vaccination in 8-10 weeks time should have reached a significant chunk of the population and more will be know about it’s impact by then.
What bothers me is enforcement at the border and in the country. With the sad mentality and lack of discipline of so many here who believe it’s somebody else’s problem, it’s going to be an ongoing factor and for me the biggest hole in the fight against this awful virus. |  | | |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 12:43 - Feb 13 with 910 views | BlueLikeJazz |
| Two sides of the Covid argument on 12:01 - Feb 13 by BLUEGOLD |
Paz fails again, what a surprise!! |
And yet again he hasn't answered my question about the number of people left with serious disabilities requiring long term help and support that he would deem acceptable - I am entitled to infer from that that he just doesn't't give a sh*t. Nice. | | | |
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