| Attn; Blue Action 12:06 - Feb 16 with 2759 views | chicoazul |
Never apologise, never explain. It’ll never be enough for these people. You have every right to protest. |  |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 12:09 - Feb 16 with 1995 views | Wallingford_Boy |
According to the Sky report, they already have apologised. |  |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 12:14 - Feb 16 with 1973 views | blueislander |
If you inadvertently damage someone’s property, or , even worse cause injury to someone with your actions, is it not basic politeness to apologise. |  | | |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:17 - Feb 16 with 1941 views | chicoazul |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:14 - Feb 16 by blueislander |
If you inadvertently damage someone’s property, or , even worse cause injury to someone with your actions, is it not basic politeness to apologise. |
On an individual basis yes. If I reverse into my neighbours car I apologise, but that is then the end of the matter. The club and it’s senior staff will use this as another stick to beat supporters with & as a chance to shift blame, we have seen Evans do this already. If they have apologised as Wallers says then they shouldn’t have. | |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 12:22 - Feb 16 with 1890 views | blueislander |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:17 - Feb 16 by chicoazul |
On an individual basis yes. If I reverse into my neighbours car I apologise, but that is then the end of the matter. The club and it’s senior staff will use this as another stick to beat supporters with & as a chance to shift blame, we have seen Evans do this already. If they have apologised as Wallers says then they shouldn’t have. |
That is a big assumption. Any evidence of it yet? | | | |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:23 - Feb 16 with 1893 views | lambchoppywaters |
These people need to grow up. The fact that people are openly backing their behaviour also devalues this forum and adds fuel to the fire regarding presser bans etc. Its all a little tedious and pathetic. | | | |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:24 - Feb 16 with 1881 views | bobbyramsey |
Apologise if damage has been caused but never apologise for your principles. |  | | |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:24 - Feb 16 with 1882 views | TieDyedIn95 |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:22 - Feb 16 by blueislander |
That is a big assumption. Any evidence of it yet? |
I'd like to see some evidence of this huge amount of damage they apparently caused when they "started a fire" at the clubs training ground.
Or wasn't there any? |  |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 12:26 - Feb 16 with 1858 views | Illinoisblue |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:23 - Feb 16 by lambchoppywaters |
These people need to grow up. The fact that people are openly backing their behaviour also devalues this forum and adds fuel to the fire regarding presser bans etc. Its all a little tedious and pathetic. |
Along came the budgie |  |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 12:26 - Feb 16 with 1846 views | jeera |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:23 - Feb 16 by lambchoppywaters |
These people need to grow up. The fact that people are openly backing their behaviour also devalues this forum and adds fuel to the fire regarding presser bans etc. Its all a little tedious and pathetic. |
You most certainly are. |  |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 12:28 - Feb 16 with 1837 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:23 - Feb 16 by lambchoppywaters |
These people need to grow up. The fact that people are openly backing their behaviour also devalues this forum and adds fuel to the fire regarding presser bans etc. Its all a little tedious and pathetic. |
You still here? |  | | |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:28 - Feb 16 with 1830 views | lambchoppywaters |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:26 - Feb 16 by jeera |
You most certainly are. |
Property damage and trespass. Go figure | | | |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:29 - Feb 16 with 1822 views | jeera |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:26 - Feb 16 by Illinoisblue |
Along came the budgie |
At least that 'Mr Town' makes an effort.
It's irritating but the dedication is there.
But this one is on a level of that pigeon who just got banned.
Say something dull and stupid and stick with it no matter what. | |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 12:29 - Feb 16 with 1811 views | jeera |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:28 - Feb 16 by lambchoppywaters |
Property damage and trespass. Go figure |
Hush now. | |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 12:33 - Feb 16 with 1777 views | bluewein |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:23 - Feb 16 by lambchoppywaters |
These people need to grow up. The fact that people are openly backing their behaviour also devalues this forum and adds fuel to the fire regarding presser bans etc. Its all a little tedious and pathetic. |
I hate half term... |  |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 12:34 - Feb 16 with 1766 views | HighgateBlue |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:14 - Feb 16 by blueislander |
If you inadvertently damage someone’s property, or , even worse cause injury to someone with your actions, is it not basic politeness to apologise. |
This is self-evidently true, and I can't believe how many on here disagree.
But I would go further. You say "inadvertently". But any old idiot could see that there's a risk of causing damage or injury when you deliberately choose to set off flares. There is a reason why there is legislation limiting their use. I totally agree with Blue Action that Lambert must go, and I totally support their right to protest.
But starting fires? Really? I'm not suggesting that a repeat of the Valley Parade fire was likely (in which over 50 people were killed in a fire at that football ground caused by a cigarette butt), but people do need to engage their brains... |  | | |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:36 - Feb 16 with 1738 views | jeera |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:34 - Feb 16 by HighgateBlue |
This is self-evidently true, and I can't believe how many on here disagree.
But I would go further. You say "inadvertently". But any old idiot could see that there's a risk of causing damage or injury when you deliberately choose to set off flares. There is a reason why there is legislation limiting their use. I totally agree with Blue Action that Lambert must go, and I totally support their right to protest.
But starting fires? Really? I'm not suggesting that a repeat of the Valley Parade fire was likely (in which over 50 people were killed in a fire at that football ground caused by a cigarette butt), but people do need to engage their brains... |
I think a chunk of the argument is the definition of fire here.
Was there actually a fire?
Or did a bit of rag burn a little bit?
Like you say yourself, this wasn't a Molotov cocktail was it? This was a bit of smoke at the absolute perimeter of some open ground. | |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 12:47 - Feb 16 with 1681 views | lambchoppywaters |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:36 - Feb 16 by jeera |
I think a chunk of the argument is the definition of fire here.
Was there actually a fire?
Or did a bit of rag burn a little bit?
Like you say yourself, this wasn't a Molotov cocktail was it? This was a bit of smoke at the absolute perimeter of some open ground. |
If you left a burning rag on my land and were caught you would be hearing from my solicitor. The incident could presumably have led to the involvement of emergency services such as the fire brigade and or the police. Which part of that can't you understand? | | | |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:56 - Feb 16 with 1622 views | SitfcB |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:09 - Feb 16 by Wallingford_Boy |
According to the Sky report, they already have apologised. |
They got that from the Daily Mail. Club have said that but it’s a lie. |  |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 13:05 - Feb 16 with 1554 views | Superblue95 |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:17 - Feb 16 by chicoazul |
On an individual basis yes. If I reverse into my neighbours car I apologise, but that is then the end of the matter. The club and it’s senior staff will use this as another stick to beat supporters with & as a chance to shift blame, we have seen Evans do this already. If they have apologised as Wallers says then they shouldn’t have. |
I’d want a bit more than just an apology if you reversed into my car! |  |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 13:06 - Feb 16 with 1552 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Presuming they have not already apologised (i.e. the club is lying) and presuming they did not chuck flares over the fence and set fire to signage (again if the club is lying), then they should issue a public statement to the Mail, TalkSport and Sky stating:
"There was an incident at Playford Road training ground yesterday that has been misreported. No flares were thrown and signage was not damaged. At no time was the safety of any club employees put at risk. Despite a message from the football club to the contrary, Blue Action has not apologised for its actions yesterday. The action was taken in response to Marcus Evans continued failure to act in relation to the manager.
Paul Lambert's management has taken Ipswich Town backwards over the last 2 and a quarter years. Whilst Marcus Evans appears happy to carry a squad of more than 50 players to mid table in League 1 with form on a downward trajectory, we do not believe this is the position Ipswich Town Football Club should be aspiring to. Our desire to see Ipswich competitive in this league has led to our call for the owner to act."
Or something along those lines. |  |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 13:06 - Feb 16 with 1548 views | Moriarty |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:47 - Feb 16 by lambchoppywaters |
If you left a burning rag on my land and were caught you would be hearing from my solicitor. The incident could presumably have led to the involvement of emergency services such as the fire brigade and or the police. Which part of that can't you understand? |
If and when your local solicitor gets a break from advising you and his/her clients on relationships forbidden by law, he might inform you that the law concerns itself with facts, not what iffs. So when you talk about “could presumably” you’re simply adding to your stockpile of BS. [Post edited 16 Feb 2021 13:17]
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| Attn; Blue Action on 13:08 - Feb 16 with 1534 views | chicoazul |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:34 - Feb 16 by HighgateBlue |
This is self-evidently true, and I can't believe how many on here disagree.
But I would go further. You say "inadvertently". But any old idiot could see that there's a risk of causing damage or injury when you deliberately choose to set off flares. There is a reason why there is legislation limiting their use. I totally agree with Blue Action that Lambert must go, and I totally support their right to protest.
But starting fires? Really? I'm not suggesting that a repeat of the Valley Parade fire was likely (in which over 50 people were killed in a fire at that football ground caused by a cigarette butt), but people do need to engage their brains... |
This is an apples and oranges comparison. | |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 13:11 - Feb 16 with 1500 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Attn; Blue Action on 12:56 - Feb 16 by SitfcB |
They got that from the Daily Mail. Club have said that but it’s a lie. |
Hence why Blue Action should contact the media who are reporting this with a clear statement pointing out each of the lies the club is publishing (unless, of course, they are true).
I am fed up with people at our club thinking they can say what they want to be true as truth when it clearly is untrue. | |
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| Attn; Blue Action on 13:11 - Feb 16 with 1498 views | SuperCoops |
Have Blue Action came out to deny or admit there was some sort of "fire" or anything other than waving a few flares around? Were any thrown? I'm aware the club and press are saying they did, but there's two sides to this and I'd be interested to hear BA's reply to these allegations. |  | | |
| Attn; Blue Action on 13:12 - Feb 16 with 1487 views | Dubtractor |
| Attn; Blue Action on 13:08 - Feb 16 by chicoazul |
This is an apples and oranges comparison. |
More like apples and submarines tbh. |  |
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