| Downes' red card 08:43 - Feb 17 with 4090 views | Fixed_It |
If it transpires - as the video suggests - that he received a first yellow for pushing the ref away from Alan Judge - and the ref is subsequently struck off for gross misconduct - should Downes' red be overturned? The ref had clearly lost the plot at that point - he knew he was in trouble and couldn't have been in a fit state to continue officiating. |  |
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| Downes' red card on 09:08 - Feb 17 with 751 views | Fixed_It |
| Downes' red card on 08:54 - Feb 17 by SitfcB |
Seemingly Judge was the one booked during that incident and Downes got two very quick yellow cards at the end, one for the challenge and then one for dissent.
Yellow cards can’t be overturned anyway. [Post edited 17 Feb 2021 8:55]
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They can't. But then refs aren't usually found committing acts of gross misconduct (assuming he is) a couple of minutes before giving them. He had lost the plot. Did you see him putting the spray down for the free-kick for Judge's 'dive' - clearly rattled! | |
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| Downes' red card on 09:10 - Feb 17 with 746 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Downes' red card on 09:07 - Feb 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Yes, and it would have been easy for the ref to go yellow for simulation, yellow for dissent you're off to Judge. Which makes his reaction even more odd. Clearly Judge said something that so touched a nerve, Drysdale chose to square up to him instead. Utterly bizarre! |
As for the OP, Downes has been booked twice for two bookable offences. Drysdale will receive consequences from the PGMOL for his behaviour, I am sure, but I would be amazed if Downes did not get his suspension. |  |
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| Downes' red card on 09:11 - Feb 17 with 743 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Downes' red card on 09:08 - Feb 17 by Fixed_It |
They can't. But then refs aren't usually found committing acts of gross misconduct (assuming he is) a couple of minutes before giving them. He had lost the plot. Did you see him putting the spray down for the free-kick for Judge's 'dive' - clearly rattled! |
But factor into that why he is clearly rattled. Clearly something about the way Judge has reacted has hit such a nerve that Drysdale has lost it. I don't think the FA are going to take pity on our players. | |
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| Downes' red card on 09:52 - Feb 17 with 691 views | itfcjoe |
| Downes' red card on 09:06 - Feb 17 by Herbivore |
Yep, and it's now been 5 in our last 20 games I think. None during our good spell at the start of the season. Discipline has totally gone. I get the feeling there's a lot of discontent and frustration and it's now boiling over on the pitch worryingly often. Downes should have had a straight red at Peterborough last week as well. |
What do you expect when you see the conduct of the management team on the sidelines, look at how many bookings we got last season - both Woolfie and Downes had 10 yellows plus |  |
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| Downes' red card on 09:54 - Feb 17 with 687 views | PhilTWTD |
| Downes' red card on 08:54 - Feb 17 by SitfcB |
Seemingly Judge was the one booked during that incident and Downes got two very quick yellow cards at the end, one for the challenge and then one for dissent.
Yellow cards can’t be overturned anyway. [Post edited 17 Feb 2021 8:55]
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Looking at the video, Downes appears to be booked for holding the referee back. The ref showed only one yellow card in the other incident. |  | | |
| Downes' red card on 09:56 - Feb 17 with 671 views | JakeITFC |
| Downes' red card on 09:54 - Feb 17 by PhilTWTD |
Looking at the video, Downes appears to be booked for holding the referee back. The ref showed only one yellow card in the other incident. |
If the free kick was given for the dive by Judge (can't see any other reason that it's a free kick to Northampton) then he has to be booked for it. |  | | |
| Downes' red card on 09:57 - Feb 17 with 663 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Downes' red card on 09:54 - Feb 17 by PhilTWTD |
Looking at the video, Downes appears to be booked for holding the referee back. The ref showed only one yellow card in the other incident. |
Is there an official match report that shows who was booked? Does it show Judge as being booked and Downes as having 2 bookings? Presumably the referee has to file an official report fairly promptly that then gets published. | |
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| Downes' red card on 09:58 - Feb 17 with 659 views | Swansea_Blue |
How it looked:
- Yellow card in the head to head with Judge was for Judge
- Downes receives first yellow in added on time for lunge
- Then receives straight red for reasons unknown
Of course, it could be different and we'd need to see what comes out of the ref's report. He may have meant to show the first yellow to Downes (maybe mistakenly thought Judge had pushed him).
Or he may have mistakenly thought that Downes' yellow in added on time was his second.
Or Downes did something so bad that it deserved a red (I'm not sure what law of the game would allow that to be the case).
In short, fk knows. The ref wasn't exactly in control. |  |
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| Downes' red card on 09:58 - Feb 17 with 659 views | Steve_M |
| Downes' red card on 09:56 - Feb 17 by JakeITFC |
If the free kick was given for the dive by Judge (can't see any other reason that it's a free kick to Northampton) then he has to be booked for it. |
Yep, and there was clearly only one yellow card shown during that incident. But the red card looked like one for a second booking (despite the rush to accuse Downes of foul and abusive language). |  |
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| Downes' red card on 09:58 - Feb 17 with 660 views | PhilTWTD |
| Downes' red card on 09:56 - Feb 17 by JakeITFC |
If the free kick was given for the dive by Judge (can't see any other reason that it's a free kick to Northampton) then he has to be booked for it. |
Had he not shown him the card already prior to the clash? I've not seen the whole incident again. If not and it was Judge who was being carded then Downes was only shown one yellow card. | | | |
| Downes' red card on 09:59 - Feb 17 with 651 views | PhilTWTD |
| Downes' red card on 09:57 - Feb 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Is there an official match report that shows who was booked? Does it show Judge as being booked and Downes as having 2 bookings? Presumably the referee has to file an official report fairly promptly that then gets published. |
At the time I was confused as I wasn't aware Downes had been booked and PA, who are usually the go-to source for that sort of thing, hadn't got him down as being booked. There will be a more official record kept by the ref, of course. | | | |
| Downes' red card on 10:02 - Feb 17 with 625 views | bournemouthblue |
| Downes' red card on 08:46 - Feb 17 by StokieBlue |
Downes is a red card waiting to happen in almost every game.
Even if it gets overturned, his on-pitch behaviour is stupid at the moment.
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It's a shame because he's a talented lad but he is wild and petulant, I can't imagine MM would have stood for it |  |
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| Downes' red card on 10:03 - Feb 17 with 616 views | Radlett_blue |
The authorities naturally support referees unless they have done something totally incorrect. The referee did seem to lose it last night, but presumably all the protocol & his view of the facts will be in his report. |  |
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| Downes' red card on 10:04 - Feb 17 with 613 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Downes' red card on 10:02 - Feb 17 by bournemouthblue |
It's a shame because he's a talented lad but he is wild and petulant, I can't imagine MM would have stood for it |
MM would have sorted him into a player.
Remember Beckham's petulance playing for England? A good manager will help a player.
Downes has been turned into what he is by the way he is being managed. | |
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| Downes' red card on 10:58 - Feb 17 with 570 views | Herbivore |
| Downes' red card on 09:05 - Feb 17 by StokieBlue |
I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying looking at it the options are:
1) He did book Downes previously (don't think he did though)
2) He forgot to show another yellow before the red
3) He showed him a yellow and then a straight red (in which case what he raised was correct)
Someone will need to look at the match report to find out.
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BBC are saying red was for violent conduct. If that is the case I hope we appeal, nothing Downes did constitutes that. |  |
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