| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. 12:43 - Feb 17 with 2488 views | monytowbray |
Usually when two sides play blame and deflection the middle ground is both are sh1t.
Lambert is a 2 year constant, Evans is a 13 year constant. Anyone who's worked in a crap failing business with a poor boss who refuses to listen (been there myself) will tell you it doesn't matter who you recruit if their hands are tied. |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:14 - Feb 17 with 841 views | itfcjoe |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:11 - Feb 17 by monytowbray |
Portsmouth fought tooth and nail to achieve it. There were fans within legal and financial industries, many of which with high hourly rates, who gave up their time for free to do it. |
But look at their rap sheet of owners before hand - the future of the club was quite literally at stake
Very different to a hapless owner who pays the bills |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:15 - Feb 17 with 839 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:12 - Feb 17 by hype313 |
I have no doubt that Evans has actively touted us for sale over the past few years, but there just aren't' many people looking to take on a football club in the 3rd tier, especially now we are going through a pandemic. |
That's because he wants to recoup his debt through sale. He's basically trying to fetch a forecourt asking price for a car he's put 100k miles on and crashed a few times. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:16 - Feb 17 with 833 views | jayessess |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:11 - Feb 17 by monytowbray |
Portsmouth fought tooth and nail to achieve it. There were fans within legal and financial industries, many of which with high hourly rates, who gave up their time for free to do it. |
Portsmouth had to collapse financially first. |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:16 - Feb 17 with 832 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:14 - Feb 17 by itfcjoe |
But look at their rap sheet of owners before hand - the future of the club was quite literally at stake
Very different to a hapless owner who pays the bills |
The writing is on the wall for us too.
How long do we wait? | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:16 - Feb 17 with 828 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:16 - Feb 17 by jayessess |
Portsmouth had to collapse financially first. |
See above. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:17 - Feb 17 with 823 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:12 - Feb 17 by itfcjoe |
That's why I think Danny Cowley is the man for the job.
That or an internal guy like Dyer who doesn't fear the academy and it's management |
Agreed. |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:18 - Feb 17 with 820 views | jayessess |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:16 - Feb 17 by monytowbray |
See above. |
The financial collapse was what enabled the fan takeover. So ... we'd have to wait until the club collapsed financially. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:19 - Feb 17 with 812 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:18 - Feb 17 by jayessess |
The financial collapse was what enabled the fan takeover. So ... we'd have to wait until the club collapsed financially. |
Prevention vs Cure. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:19 - Feb 17 with 811 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:12 - Feb 17 by itfcjoe |
That's why I think Danny Cowley is the man for the job.
That or an internal guy like Dyer who doesn't fear the academy and it's management |
Do you think Evans would ever appoint someone like Dyer that the fans wouldn't turn on and detract blame from him? It's a dangerous game for him. Admittedly people turned on Jim but I think that is looked on with such embarrassment that it wouldn't happen with a club legend again. [Post edited 17 Feb 2021 13:19]
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:19 - Feb 17 with 808 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:10 - Feb 17 by monytowbray |
A new owner?
Evans can cut his ties and chalk it up as a loss tomorrow if he chose to. Like most smart people do with poor business investments and choices.
Money is all relative to what one is worth. If you splashed out a few £k on a business and it wasn't succeeding, it would be your choice to invest more to keep flogging a dead horse or decide to invest your money elsewhere. Just because a few £m sounds like a lot to us on the forum it's pocket money if you're THAT loaded. |
...none of this provides any answers.
Its so easy to just say 'Evans out'.
Very difficult to achieve when your clubs is a pretty unattractive investment proposition. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:20 - Feb 17 with 794 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:15 - Feb 17 by monytowbray |
That's because he wants to recoup his debt through sale. He's basically trying to fetch a forecourt asking price for a car he's put 100k miles on and crashed a few times. |
I very much doubt Evans expects to see much of his investment recouped. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:21 - Feb 17 with 794 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:19 - Feb 17 by Marshalls_Mullet |
...none of this provides any answers.
Its so easy to just say 'Evans out'.
Very difficult to achieve when your clubs is a pretty unattractive investment proposition. |
What do you think I alone can do? Buy it?
Collective action is needed, but we won't get it if everyone shrugs their shoulders.
If that was the course of history we'd be much worse off as a society. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:22 - Feb 17 with 790 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:20 - Feb 17 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I very much doubt Evans expects to see much of his investment recouped. |
Last time he was rumoured to sell he wanted £35m.
Again, he could give it away if he wanted. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:22 - Feb 17 with 787 views | jayessess |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:19 - Feb 17 by monytowbray |
Prevention vs Cure. |
It's more cause and effect, really.
Football supporter groups can't raise the funds to buy football clubs when they aren't in financial distress. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:23 - Feb 17 with 782 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:22 - Feb 17 by jayessess |
It's more cause and effect, really.
Football supporter groups can't raise the funds to buy football clubs when they aren't in financial distress. |
it's not so much we buy it as we pressure to sell. That's a good starting point. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:25 - Feb 17 with 776 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:21 - Feb 17 by monytowbray |
What do you think I alone can do? Buy it?
Collective action is needed, but we won't get it if everyone shrugs their shoulders.
If that was the course of history we'd be much worse off as a society. |
This thread is pretty hollow.
Lots of words, with no plan.
Start an action group if you feel so strongly. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:25 - Feb 17 with 776 views | Pinewoodblue |
Lambert is Evans problem. He alone can fix it. |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:26 - Feb 17 with 771 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:25 - Feb 17 by Marshalls_Mullet |
This thread is pretty hollow.
Lots of words, with no plan.
Start an action group if you feel so strongly. |
If I had a plan you'd sh1t on it anyway I expect. Keen to be an Evans apologist.
I am not the club. We the people, etc. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:26 - Feb 17 with 765 views | jayessess |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:23 - Feb 17 by monytowbray |
it's not so much we buy it as we pressure to sell. That's a good starting point. |
Well the Portsmouth fans didn't create any pressure to sell. They watched, horrified, as their club collapsed financially, then organised to pick up the pieces. Which is great and admirable, but isn't precedent for what you're talking about. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:28 - Feb 17 with 758 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:26 - Feb 17 by jayessess |
Well the Portsmouth fans didn't create any pressure to sell. They watched, horrified, as their club collapsed financially, then organised to pick up the pieces. Which is great and admirable, but isn't precedent for what you're talking about. |
The point is more when to we accept our fate and do something to stop it?
How we compare to other clubs isn't relevant. The situations will always differ. The fact it is possible for fans to make a difference is the seed that needs to grow from our own camp. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:30 - Feb 17 with 749 views | hype313 |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:26 - Feb 17 by jayessess |
Well the Portsmouth fans didn't create any pressure to sell. They watched, horrified, as their club collapsed financially, then organised to pick up the pieces. Which is great and admirable, but isn't precedent for what you're talking about. |
Also, you can't compare Portsmouth to our situation, it was an absolute abomination down there with what the owners were doing, when even Redknapp said he had reservations about some of the practices, then you know it was a car crash. |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:32 - Feb 17 with 744 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:30 - Feb 17 by hype313 |
Also, you can't compare Portsmouth to our situation, it was an absolute abomination down there with what the owners were doing, when even Redknapp said he had reservations about some of the practices, then you know it was a car crash. |
Considering Evans always in trouble legally I'd wonder what happens behind closed doors our side.
Purely speculation mind you. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:33 - Feb 17 with 736 views | homer_123 |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 12:57 - Feb 17 by itfcjoe |
It's like the difference between living in a house with subsidence, and it having a hole in the roof
Ultimately the subsidence will kill the house and needs an expensive long term fix, but you can live with it - you can't live with a leaky roof |
Though you are relying on the person responsible for not dealing with the subsidence to deal with a hole in the roof. That person has no idea has to address either issues and is incapable of appointing some who can. |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:34 - Feb 17 with 733 views | rickw |
I don't think Evans could sell the club in this current climate, but what he could do in his usual absence is appoint someone qualified to run the club.
Simon Jordan made a good point on the radio earlier - there's plenty of owners who you never hear from, but they have someone running the club for them - take Spurs, owned by ENIC / Joe Lewis but Daniel Levy runs it. |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:36 - Feb 17 with 727 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:26 - Feb 17 by monytowbray |
If I had a plan you'd sh1t on it anyway I expect. Keen to be an Evans apologist.
I am not the club. We the people, etc. |
Your tone is disappointing. I'm not an Evans apologist, just pointing out that its easy to suggest removing an owner. Very hard to do.
You could start an action group. | |
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