| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:15 - Feb 19 with 1583 views | BlueBadger |
Yeah, we've probably got a bit of a mini-spike coming end of March/early April. |  |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:19 - Feb 19 with 1546 views | vapour_trail |
Speculative.
Misleading title in the op. |  |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:23 - Feb 19 with 1509 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:19 - Feb 19 by vapour_trail |
Speculative.
Misleading title in the op. |
'Big bang' re-opening of schools IS madness though. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:23 - Feb 19 with 1507 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:15 - Feb 19 by BlueBadger |
Yeah, we've probably got a bit of a mini-spike coming end of March/early April. |
I can see the argument for opening things up a bit. With no vaccine I get the speed and brake, speed and brake method.
However with the vaccine here and hopefully a relatively decent solution in sight I really don't see why they don't wait an extra month.
Although a month for kids is a long time.
It's very difficult. On balance I think I would double lock until April.
Whitty is a funny one. For a chief medical officer he always looks quite ill. |  |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:24 - Feb 19 with 1496 views | GlasgowBlue |
Why does your thread title bear no resemblance to your link? |  |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:25 - Feb 19 with 1490 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:19 - Feb 19 by vapour_trail |
Speculative.
Misleading title in the op. |
quelle surprise | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:27 - Feb 19 with 1476 views | vapour_trail |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:23 - Feb 19 by BlueBadger |
'Big bang' re-opening of schools IS madness though. |
I’m not qualified or suitably knowledgeable to judge that either way. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:29 - Feb 19 with 1456 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:27 - Feb 19 by vapour_trail |
I’m not qualified or suitably knowledgeable to judge that either way. |
I like you Vapes.
You are a very balanced man. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:30 - Feb 19 with 1451 views | BlueBadger |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:23 - Feb 19 by Lord_Lucan |
I can see the argument for opening things up a bit. With no vaccine I get the speed and brake, speed and brake method.
However with the vaccine here and hopefully a relatively decent solution in sight I really don't see why they don't wait an extra month.
Although a month for kids is a long time.
It's very difficult. On balance I think I would double lock until April.
Whitty is a funny one. For a chief medical officer he always looks quite ill. |
I think realistically, with schools, you want to have the most educationally important years in - namely those in exam years and years 1-2. The rest, you'd probably want some kind of rolling rota on until there's more comprehensive vaccine cover amongst the general populace. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:31 - Feb 19 with 1441 views | Timefliesbyintheblue |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:27 - Feb 19 by vapour_trail |
I’m not qualified or suitably knowledgeable to judge that either way. |
I wholeheartedly agree. Whatever decision is made on the re opening of schools, will have a maximum support of 50% of parents and teachers. Just glad i do not have to make the decision. |  | | |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:33 - Feb 19 with 1426 views | vapour_trail |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:23 - Feb 19 by Lord_Lucan |
I can see the argument for opening things up a bit. With no vaccine I get the speed and brake, speed and brake method.
However with the vaccine here and hopefully a relatively decent solution in sight I really don't see why they don't wait an extra month.
Although a month for kids is a long time.
It's very difficult. On balance I think I would double lock until April.
Whitty is a funny one. For a chief medical officer he always looks quite ill. |
In reality, that’ll be mid April after the Easter break.
My boy is really struggling now and he’s generally a positive, extrovert type. I’m sure there are kids doing much worse than him.
My wife is a keyworker now having recently taken a role in the nhs. We’ve been told by the head that we can’t access a school place because we both wfh at present. He’s still left to his own devices most of the time as we are both in meetings all day long. If the schools aren’t opening on 8 March, I’m going to challenge the head very hard. I get that prioritisation is required but the bubble isn’t full currently, there are places available unused, and I’ll be pushing for the boy to go back in at least part time. It’s doing considerable longer term damage in my view. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:33 - Feb 19 with 1428 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:30 - Feb 19 by BlueBadger |
I think realistically, with schools, you want to have the most educationally important years in - namely those in exam years and years 1-2. The rest, you'd probably want some kind of rolling rota on until there's more comprehensive vaccine cover amongst the general populace. |
I don't know what years 1 - 2 are as the school years have all gone to cock since I graced my school.
I am more worried about the very young kids at primary than any others.
Actually I get every argument from all sides, I end up changing my mind daily.
It's an impossible situation. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:34 - Feb 19 with 1421 views | Fixed_It |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:27 - Feb 19 by vapour_trail |
I’m not qualified or suitably knowledgeable to judge that either way. |
I believe Prof Chris Whitty might be though. Boris considerably less so. |  |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:36 - Feb 19 with 1402 views | vapour_trail |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:30 - Feb 19 by BlueBadger |
I think realistically, with schools, you want to have the most educationally important years in - namely those in exam years and years 1-2. The rest, you'd probably want some kind of rolling rota on until there's more comprehensive vaccine cover amongst the general populace. |
The head at my boys school (my missus is a governer there), has said they recognised the biggest impact as having been on year 5 when the kids returned in Sept.
I’m sure people will have differing views on this all over the place though. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:37 - Feb 19 with 1393 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:34 - Feb 19 by Fixed_It |
I believe Prof Chris Whitty might be though. Boris considerably less so. |
Yeah but Whitty isn't living in a high rise council flat in Tottenham with three kids and a vacant dad. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:38 - Feb 19 with 1380 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:33 - Feb 19 by vapour_trail |
In reality, that’ll be mid April after the Easter break.
My boy is really struggling now and he’s generally a positive, extrovert type. I’m sure there are kids doing much worse than him.
My wife is a keyworker now having recently taken a role in the nhs. We’ve been told by the head that we can’t access a school place because we both wfh at present. He’s still left to his own devices most of the time as we are both in meetings all day long. If the schools aren’t opening on 8 March, I’m going to challenge the head very hard. I get that prioritisation is required but the bubble isn’t full currently, there are places available unused, and I’ll be pushing for the boy to go back in at least part time. It’s doing considerable longer term damage in my view. |
My 14 year old daughter is struggling. Like everyone else she has missed six months of education.
My 18 year old daughter has paid tuition fees for a full year at the University of West London, plus 2/4 accommodation. She's been back here since just before Christmas and her whole block were put into isolation in October.
The whole thing has soured her experience so she is quitting the course and looking to start from scratch at a Uni closer to home. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:39 - Feb 19 with 1367 views | vapour_trail |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:34 - Feb 19 by Fixed_It |
I believe Prof Chris Whitty might be though. Boris considerably less so. |
Of course.
But all you have in the op are his opposition as reported in the guardian quoting education sources. There’s plenty with skin in the game right there. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:40 - Feb 19 with 1359 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:19 - Feb 19 by vapour_trail |
Speculative.
Misleading title in the op. |
No, some of Johnson’s cabinet are leaking this to brief against him and try and get a change of course before Monday.
Right now it appears the CRG are winning the ‘argument’ |  | | |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:41 - Feb 19 with 1355 views | vapour_trail |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:29 - Feb 19 by Lord_Lucan |
I like you Vapes.
You are a very balanced man. |
Cheers LL.
I’m having a few Friday beers so will likely be ranting like a swivel eyed loon in due course. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:43 - Feb 19 with 1343 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:24 - Feb 19 by GlasgowBlue |
Why does your thread title bear no resemblance to your link? |
How is it?
Johnson is ignoring his advisers again. We’ve seen the evidence in our daily work in the last 12 months on borders and it looks like we are on schools now | | | |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:43 - Feb 19 with 1340 views | vapour_trail |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:38 - Feb 19 by GlasgowBlue |
My 14 year old daughter is struggling. Like everyone else she has missed six months of education.
My 18 year old daughter has paid tuition fees for a full year at the University of West London, plus 2/4 accommodation. She's been back here since just before Christmas and her whole block were put into isolation in October.
The whole thing has soured her experience so she is quitting the course and looking to start from scratch at a Uni closer to home. |
I feel for you. The tuition fees are little short of scandalous. | |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:45 - Feb 19 with 1331 views | Trequartista |
The idea that a Government should follow the science, doesn't actually mean they should do everything the scientists suggest. Scientists only state facts from a scientific point of view. This is totally one-sided as they are only concerned with measures against Covid, they have no input on the damage any measures caused to society, so it will always be the hardest possible advice. The Government has to balance this with the damage the measures cause to a form a proportional result.
Tldr; - Conclusion - differing opinions are normal. |  |
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:46 - Feb 19 with 1312 views | StokieBlue |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:36 - Feb 19 by vapour_trail |
The head at my boys school (my missus is a governer there), has said they recognised the biggest impact as having been on year 5 when the kids returned in Sept.
I’m sure people will have differing views on this all over the place though. |
I think it's hard to classify which year is suffering the most. I would think it would fluctuate from school to school and from child to child.
As you say, lots of people will have varying views on this.
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| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:48 - Feb 19 with 1285 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Johnson ignoring Whitty again on 20:43 - Feb 19 by vapour_trail |
I feel for you. The tuition fees are little short of scandalous. |
We have cancelled the DD on her accommodation for the next 1/4. She is stuck up here but all of her stuff is in London. Something definitely needs to be done about the tuition fees.
My 14 year old last year came out as being gay. She was a very unhappy 11-13 year old until she made the decision to open up to us about her sexuality and she started to enjoy school and life in general, making friends and going out. These two lockdowns have definitely set her back mental health wise. | |
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