| One less to worry about! 14:11 - Feb 22 with 1114 views | PaphosBlue |
Just seen Joey Barton has been appointed at Bristol Rovers |  |
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| One less to worry about! on 14:14 - Feb 22 with 1099 views | hype313 |
I'd have Joey over Lambert. |  |
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| One less to worry about! on 14:14 - Feb 22 with 1086 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| One less to worry about! on 14:14 - Feb 22 by hype313 |
I'd have Joey over Lambert. |
That's a very low benchmark. |  |
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| One less to worry about! on 14:15 - Feb 22 with 1071 views | hype313 |
| One less to worry about! on 14:14 - Feb 22 by Marshalls_Mullet |
That's a very low benchmark. |
Well, quite, but we are we where we are. | |
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| One less to worry about! on 14:17 - Feb 22 with 1056 views | Edmundo |
Dyer and Butcher all day long.
Fed up with paying top dollar for has-beens and charlatans.
At least they're blue through and through.
Evan's has to realise that's what we want as much as success: people at the club who love it as much as we do. |  |
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| One less to worry about! on 14:20 - Feb 22 with 1032 views | NthQldITFC |
I too am glad we didn't get Joey Essex. |  |
| # WE ARE STEALING THE FUTURE FROM OUR CHILDREN --- WE MUST CHANGE COURSE # | | Poll: | It's driving me nuts |
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| One less to worry about! on 14:22 - Feb 22 with 1016 views | Churchman |
| One less to worry about! on 14:14 - Feb 22 by hype313 |
I'd have Joey over Lambert. |
I’d appoint Joey from Friends over Lambert |  | | |
| One less to worry about! on 14:23 - Feb 22 with 1014 views | itfcpaul |
Who would you really want as Manager, obviously within reality, looks like Pearson is off the list, so looks like a short list, from fans, of:
Dyer and Butcher
Paul Cook
Cowley Brothers
Neil Harris (apparently)
My choice would be, but unlikely unless he gets the push from Blackburn, is Tony Mowbray, but not sure he would come now
Would Klug take it in a caretaker role until the end of the season? |  |
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| One less to worry about! on 14:23 - Feb 22 with 1002 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| One less to worry about! on 14:22 - Feb 22 by Churchman |
I’d appoint Joey from Friends over Lambert |
Funnily enough, he's the American who's buying the club!! | |
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| One less to worry about! on 14:26 - Feb 22 with 981 views | itfcjoe |
I think he'd have done a decent job here, I do quite like him |  |
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| One less to worry about! on 14:27 - Feb 22 with 973 views | OsborneOneNil |
| One less to worry about! on 14:23 - Feb 22 by itfcpaul |
Who would you really want as Manager, obviously within reality, looks like Pearson is off the list, so looks like a short list, from fans, of:
Dyer and Butcher
Paul Cook
Cowley Brothers
Neil Harris (apparently)
My choice would be, but unlikely unless he gets the push from Blackburn, is Tony Mowbray, but not sure he would come now
Would Klug take it in a caretaker role until the end of the season? |
COOK!!!
Stand out choice |  | | |
| One less to worry about! on 14:33 - Feb 22 with 953 views | homer_123 |
| One less to worry about! on 14:23 - Feb 22 by itfcpaul |
Who would you really want as Manager, obviously within reality, looks like Pearson is off the list, so looks like a short list, from fans, of:
Dyer and Butcher
Paul Cook
Cowley Brothers
Neil Harris (apparently)
My choice would be, but unlikely unless he gets the push from Blackburn, is Tony Mowbray, but not sure he would come now
Would Klug take it in a caretaker role until the end of the season? |
Klug has made it very clear he has no interest in being a long term manager, so that simply isn't an option.
What we 'need' is a manager or management/coaching team that can perform given the current situation of the Club. Evans isn't going to do anything differently to what has gone before so whoever it is has to work within that and have a track record of 'delivering results'.
Whilst Dyer and Butcher would galvanise the supporters, they would be an incredibly poor choice as they won't get the support they need from Evans and the wider ITFC Management Team and any short term gains would be lost. My heart says a good choice but not the head.
Harris is a straight out no for me - no club connection and simply not delivered anything of real note as a manager.
Which leaves us with Cook and the Cowleys.
Cook win % is decent and his history is pretty good. Older than I thought which leads me to say that I think the Cowleys would be our best bet both short and long term.
The Cowleys have worked under varying types of Club setup both in terms of management and resources. They would be perfectly self sufficient in the short term to take the reigns but have the savvy to try and develop the Club longer term. I believe in the very short term they would be capable of getting a lot more out of this squad than Lambert whilst also building and developing longer term.
I think Cook could deliver short term but the Cowleys seem a good fit. Pragmatic, efficient, forward thinking, self-sufficient capable of delivering in the short, medium and long term. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 14:56]
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| One less to worry about! on 14:39 - Feb 22 with 912 views | itfcpaul |
| One less to worry about! on 14:33 - Feb 22 by homer_123 |
Klug has made it very clear he has no interest in being a long term manager, so that simply isn't an option.
What we 'need' is a manager or management/coaching team that can perform given the current situation of the Club. Evans isn't going to do anything differently to what has gone before so whoever it is has to work within that and have a track record of 'delivering results'.
Whilst Dyer and Butcher would galvanise the supporters, they would be an incredibly poor choice as they won't get the support they need from Evans and the wider ITFC Management Team and any short term gains would be lost. My heart says a good choice but not the head.
Harris is a straight out no for me - no club connection and simply not delivered anything of real note as a manager.
Which leaves us with Cook and the Cowleys.
Cook win % is decent and his history is pretty good. Older than I thought which leads me to say that I think the Cowleys would be our best bet both short and long term.
The Cowleys have worked under varying types of Club setup both in terms of management and resources. They would be perfectly self sufficient in the short term to take the reigns but have the savvy to try and develop the Club longer term. I believe in the very short term they would be capable of getting a lot more out of this squad than Lambert whilst also building and developing longer term.
I think Cook could deliver short term but the Cowleys seem a good fit. Pragmatic, efficient, forward thinking, self-sufficient capable of delivering in the short, medium and long term. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 14:56]
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I agree to be honest, but they get a bit of negativity down to their perceived long ball game plan but have seen enough to know they can play loads of differing ways | |
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| One less to worry about! on 14:44 - Feb 22 with 896 views | itfcjoe |
| One less to worry about! on 14:33 - Feb 22 by homer_123 |
Klug has made it very clear he has no interest in being a long term manager, so that simply isn't an option.
What we 'need' is a manager or management/coaching team that can perform given the current situation of the Club. Evans isn't going to do anything differently to what has gone before so whoever it is has to work within that and have a track record of 'delivering results'.
Whilst Dyer and Butcher would galvanise the supporters, they would be an incredibly poor choice as they won't get the support they need from Evans and the wider ITFC Management Team and any short term gains would be lost. My heart says a good choice but not the head.
Harris is a straight out no for me - no club connection and simply not delivered anything of real note as a manager.
Which leaves us with Cook and the Cowleys.
Cook win % is decent and his history is pretty good. Older than I thought which leads me to say that I think the Cowleys would be our best bet both short and long term.
The Cowleys have worked under varying types of Club setup both in terms of management and resources. They would be perfectly self sufficient in the short term to take the reigns but have the savvy to try and develop the Club longer term. I believe in the very short term they would be capable of getting a lot more out of this squad than Lambert whilst also building and developing longer term.
I think Cook could deliver short term but the Cowleys seem a good fit. Pragmatic, efficient, forward thinking, self-sufficient capable of delivering in the short, medium and long term. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 14:56]
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The only thing I'd disagree with is about Dyer and Butcher....
There was a big Athletic article a year ago now:
https://theathletic.com/1653901/2020/03/07/ipswich-town-lambert-marcus-evans-rel
It talks almost about an academy mafia who have a big say in the club, if this is the case and KD and TB get the job then it will be because they are the preferred management due of this lot.
The academy is one of the best functioning areas of the football club, what's to say they can't run the club as well as they had the academy and promote from within? There aren't any other footballing structures in place | |
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| One less to worry about! on 14:53 - Feb 22 with 866 views | homer_123 |
| One less to worry about! on 14:44 - Feb 22 by itfcjoe |
The only thing I'd disagree with is about Dyer and Butcher....
There was a big Athletic article a year ago now:
https://theathletic.com/1653901/2020/03/07/ipswich-town-lambert-marcus-evans-rel
It talks almost about an academy mafia who have a big say in the club, if this is the case and KD and TB get the job then it will be because they are the preferred management due of this lot.
The academy is one of the best functioning areas of the football club, what's to say they can't run the club as well as they had the academy and promote from within? There aren't any other footballing structures in place |
In the short term, that duo would get a bounce like no other - for that alone, from a fans perspective, I see the attraction.
Your point is interesting and I can see the logic of that view. The question that gnaws at me is this:
If the academy is one of the best functioning areas of the football club, why isn't that being replicated with the first team?
If the appointment of Dyer and Butcher meant wholesale behind the scenes changes that see what we do at Academy level brought through to the first team (which is something that Lambert has talked indept about in the past) - they would be more attractive. But, my reservations would remain - I cannot see Evans giving that level of backing.
Hence, all things being equal, the Cowleys are the logical fit. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 14:59]
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| One less to worry about! on 14:55 - Feb 22 with 857 views | homer_123 |
| One less to worry about! on 14:39 - Feb 22 by itfcpaul |
I agree to be honest, but they get a bit of negativity down to their perceived long ball game plan but have seen enough to know they can play loads of differing ways |
Indeed, hence the first word I used for them is pragmatic. | |
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| One less to worry about! on 15:01 - Feb 22 with 827 views | itfcjoe |
| One less to worry about! on 14:53 - Feb 22 by homer_123 |
In the short term, that duo would get a bounce like no other - for that alone, from a fans perspective, I see the attraction.
Your point is interesting and I can see the logic of that view. The question that gnaws at me is this:
If the academy is one of the best functioning areas of the football club, why isn't that being replicated with the first team?
If the appointment of Dyer and Butcher meant wholesale behind the scenes changes that see what we do at Academy level brought through to the first team (which is something that Lambert has talked indept about in the past) - they would be more attractive. But, my reservations would remain - I cannot see Evans giving that level of backing.
Hence, all things being equal, the Cowleys are the logical fit. [Post edited 22 Feb 2021 14:59]
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They would be my first choice too.
But if the academy guys are running, it would mean that they have a good relationship with O'Neill as it is, he could then focus on his job and appoint someone to help him run the academy after doing both. Frees up a member of staff for recruitment iunder him etc
We get away from Lambert who claims to want a structure, but has alienated or tried to disasscoiate himself from Bowman, Klug, Dyer, Nash, etc......for someone who wants a structure he doesn't seem to trust anyone in the club who is here and is constantly politicking to get them out the way.
That can't be how it works here, if the manager can't buy into what and who is here then he's not the right man.
I think the Cowley's seem the right sort to do so, to get everyone on side etc to not feel threatened by everyone and everything | |
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| One less to worry about! on 15:03 - Feb 22 with 814 views | BelsteadCav |
Joey Barton would have been an excellent choice for town
Plus he’s good friends with Dyer, so it would have kept the happy clappers happy |  |
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| One less to worry about! on 15:04 - Feb 22 with 803 views | SamWhiteUK |
| One less to worry about! on 14:15 - Feb 22 by hype313 |
Well, quite, but we are we where we are. |
I sounded like an ambulance as I struggled to read that last bit |  | | |
| I'd have him over Lambert... BUT on 15:21 - Feb 22 with 745 views | unstableblue |
.. I'm not sure he'd pass must be one of our manager selection criteria - 'not being a sociopath nutter, some semblance of media/fan positive relations '
Keane, Hust and Lambert must have taught us that one!!!
I would say Barton would definitely lift this team to be playing much better and more effective. But long before some controversy?
We just can't feck this next selection up. |  |
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