| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? 15:42 - Feb 26 with 2510 views | Coastalblue |
If this takeover goes through I mean? I know Evans is reviled on here by some and I'm very aware we've been drifting ever downward for the last decade but I've also always been confident that the Club will be here next year.
Do people not worry we could end up financially fecked and a Championship basket case within 2 or 3 years if things don't go to plan? I know there's an alternative reality, that we have the right decisions made for us and end up in the Prem, but surely people must be at least a little worried about the future now? |  |
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| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 16:48 - Feb 26 with 500 views | MrTown |
I have also posted my thoughts of a cocktail of emotions, and of course I worry about the fear of going bust.
We have been bleeding a slow death under a man who doesn't want to be here, under a manager who doesn't want to be here.
We should b excited and optimistic as football fans about a new era, if cautiously excited, but excited certainly. |  |
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| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 16:51 - Feb 26 with 489 views | Darth_Koont |
There’s a risk but as Illy says we’re already hanging on. And even an owner as patient as Evans has shown there’s a limit and no more security with him as he’s agreed to sell.
Vibes of Stewart Donald taking over Sunderland with no ability or ambition to plug any gaps. Just take on a liability and get promoted or sell on for a profit. But we’d have to wait and see what the new owners actually do. If they come in and immediately start cutting costs not to increase the liability any further (like Donald did) then that would point to them as speculators more than perhaps people who have a long-term ambition for ITFC specifically.
This might be Evans’s own BCWYWF statement to the fans. But not sure we’ve got a whole lot to lose. |  |
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| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 16:52 - Feb 26 with 476 views | WeWereZombies |
| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 16:02 - Feb 26 by BryanPlug |
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I wonder if that was how supporters of Bury FC felt when Steve Dale bought their club... |  |
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| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 16:54 - Feb 26 with 470 views | Coastalblue |
| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 16:51 - Feb 26 by Darth_Koont |
There’s a risk but as Illy says we’re already hanging on. And even an owner as patient as Evans has shown there’s a limit and no more security with him as he’s agreed to sell.
Vibes of Stewart Donald taking over Sunderland with no ability or ambition to plug any gaps. Just take on a liability and get promoted or sell on for a profit. But we’d have to wait and see what the new owners actually do. If they come in and immediately start cutting costs not to increase the liability any further (like Donald did) then that would point to them as speculators more than perhaps people who have a long-term ambition for ITFC specifically.
This might be Evans’s own BCWYWF statement to the fans. But not sure we’ve got a whole lot to lose. |
Agree, you have to be hopeful that looking at other ventures they are involved in we might be their sporting jewel at the head of their projects, this does make me feel quite nervous though, tinged with an edge of excitement.
Nothing I can do I guess except go along for the ride, and hope it's a better one than the last few years. | |
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| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 17:11 - Feb 26 with 437 views | ghostofescobar |
Definitely a possibility. But what’s the other option? ME taking us towards L2? The problem has not all been about finance, it’s largely become about how the club is now run, from top to bottom. Bad decision, after bad decision. But my feeling is that this new ownership will also have a very finite timeframe and if we don’t get where they want us to be, we will be in trouble. |  |
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| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 17:19 - Feb 26 with 417 views | jeera |
| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 16:03 - Feb 26 by Dyland |
He has. And maybe he has said so with the best of intentions. Needs must though innit. |
I absolutely believe that's how he used to feel, but simply doesn't any more.
We feel let down by him and it would seem he feels the same way about the fans.
There has never been a relationship has there, so it wasn't that hard to break down in the end.
This is why Town needs a board, a collective where not one single entity has control and decisions have to be passed after careful consideration.
That all sounds like a pipe dream now. It's not the same any more and it's a shame. |  |
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| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 17:23 - Feb 26 with 407 views | hype313 |
| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 15:55 - Feb 26 by Plums |
For all his faults, Evans has always said he would only sell to a buyer who convinced him of their long term plans for the club. We have to take him at his word - he presumably could have sold us many times over long before he was £100m in the hole. |
That was maybe the case a few years back, I've no doubt he's been desperate to get rid of us like a wingeing Ex wife.
He'd probably sell to Assad if it meant he didn't have to stump up £6m a year. |  |
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| Yep, but what else is there for us? on 17:30 - Feb 26 with 387 views | hype313 |
| Yep, but what else is there for us? on 15:54 - Feb 26 by Dyland |
This here...
TWTD understands that much of the cash will come from the pension fund for the fire and police services of a so-far unnamed US state.
Makes me lol, not in a good way. But in the absence of a Town fan billionaire, this is where we're at. Evans needs to get rid, and he will sell to whoever.
Personally I think the whole thing stinks, but hey ho, it's intolerable following Town atm anyway and has been for some time. If this is just another step towards oblivion, so be it. Football is fooked anyway. |
Multiple up arrows for this.
Football is a vipers nest, everyone is shaking hands with the devil.
Look at Utd and Arsenal, they are getting rinsed by the owners and then you have the questionable ethics of Abramovich and the storm behind that.
Mike Ashley? another snake, everywhere you turn it is a sh1tshow of owners. | |
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| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 17:34 - Feb 26 with 377 views | Darth_Koont |
| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 16:54 - Feb 26 by Coastalblue |
Agree, you have to be hopeful that looking at other ventures they are involved in we might be their sporting jewel at the head of their projects, this does make me feel quite nervous though, tinged with an edge of excitement.
Nothing I can do I guess except go along for the ride, and hope it's a better one than the last few years. |
Actually, you raised a point that I didn’t really factor in and probably makes their presence a lot less risky. They have a brand and sport reputation that goes beyond just Ipswich so the likelihood they’d handle us particularly callously just to make a quick buck makes little sense given how it would likely impact their other sport ventures and associations. | |
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| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 17:37 - Feb 26 with 368 views | Keaneish |
The situation is the same in my eyes only they’re openly saying they’ll want to sell to turn a profit once the value has increased. Who they sell to will be the question. Having said that, if we’re very successful, they may see more value in staying put.
Right now we need new life breathed into this club; good news for now. Delighted Paul Cool is inbound - best option out there at the moment in my view. |  |
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| Yep, but what else is there for us? on 17:45 - Feb 26 with 355 views | NthQldITFC |
| Yep, but what else is there for us? on 15:54 - Feb 26 by Dyland |
This here...
TWTD understands that much of the cash will come from the pension fund for the fire and police services of a so-far unnamed US state.
Makes me lol, not in a good way. But in the absence of a Town fan billionaire, this is where we're at. Evans needs to get rid, and he will sell to whoever.
Personally I think the whole thing stinks, but hey ho, it's intolerable following Town atm anyway and has been for some time. If this is just another step towards oblivion, so be it. Football is fooked anyway. |
'But in the absence of a Town fan billionaire, this is where we're at'.
I suppose if it all goes belly up this time round, Mr Sheeran might be in a position next time round to give it a go.
I still feel nervous about this, but am coming round to the idea, given the relative experience and solidity of this buyer as others have pointed out, relative to some other clubs' takeovers that is. |  |
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| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 17:56 - Feb 26 with 328 views | sotd78 |
I think the little knowledge we have about the Bristol City situation shows us where we are headed. The Academy is the future for Ipswich - so expect us to develop and sell our youngster regularly. Oh and look to take good youngsters off lower clubs and sell them on. The example with Adam Webster will tell you how things are likely to go. I think any new owners would see this club as mid-table Championship with the occasional flirt with the play-offs. So getting us there is the first task; if we do that with homegrown talent that can then be sold - that would be the plan. A Woolfenden in Division 1 is worth £3million; a decent Woolfy in Championship is worth £20 million. Likewise Downes, Dozzell and any number of others.
This all then fits with the money that Evans invested in the Training ground - and doesn't he still own that?. The club therefore have to come to him as tenants and to use it for keeping Category 2 status?
It's a logical plan; get us up; sell on any talent; or if there's another mug about sell us to someone desperate to get to the Prem.
As for bust: provided the stands are maintained and the Borough never sell the lease we will always have a club- what level it plays at is simply down to investment; management and luck. |  |
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| Does nobody worry this could be sh1t or bust? on 17:57 - Feb 26 with 324 views | NBVJohn |
It’s far from ideal, but as others have pointed out it’s symptomatic of where we are at; death by a thousand cuts at the hands of Evans or potentially another as yet unknown evil? It doesn’t sit comfortably with me knowing that pension money is being used to fund this.
A cross roads for sure - we could be challenging for the Premier in 2-3 years or in the Conference - who knows? I certainly wouldn’t like to say. I’d love to think that we might at least get to have something to cheer; we’re a club that hasn’t even managed a valiant FA Cup 5th round defeat to a Premier League team for several years, so it’s not going to take much to restore some pride from a purely football perspective.
Ultimately I don’t think ‘better the devil you know’ on this one. The club is in a terrible decline after 10 years of shambolic management from top to bottom, and a complete clear out and start again of the leadership and (some of the) players is the only way to spark any kind of re-awakening.
The problem with all of this is that there are no guarantees of success, and everything will be based on rumour and counter rumour for some time to come.
Ask me in 2 years! |  | | |
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