| Blimey on 19:59 - Mar 4 with 1006 views | Trequartista |
| Blimey on 18:02 - Mar 4 by SomethingBlue |
A nation that has lost its moral compass. |
Or alternatively a Labour party that despises the working classes. |  |
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| Blimey on 20:05 - Mar 4 with 989 views | SpruceMoose |
| Blimey on 19:59 - Mar 4 by Trequartista |
Or alternatively a Labour party that despises the working classes. |
lol |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Blimey on 20:06 - Mar 4 with 988 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Blimey on 19:53 - Mar 4 by vapour_trail |
Not massively surprising. Everyone’s increasingly optimistic about the vaccine, which has the potential to see this government exit the pandemic in credit with the fckwiteratti, who are many in their number.
I’m only surprised the likes of the telegraph and express haven’t called it the johnson jab or something like that.
Rather depressingly, I don’t see the boy Starmer levelling up either in the coming period. Only mass unemployment and extreme economic hardship will hurt the tories from where I’m looking, and whilst the outcome is desirable, that journey is not something any of us want. From mocking the money tree, they’ll be shaking the fcker for all it’s worth from here to the next election. |
Johnson Jab, ha ha.
I have just quoted that on our lads group thing to one of my very anti Boris mates who was due to get a Johnson Jab yesterday.
I thought the Jabs Army thing in The Sun was a good line but you've got the biscuit Vapes. |  |
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| Blimey on 20:06 - Mar 4 with 991 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Blimey on 19:59 - Mar 4 by Trequartista |
Or alternatively a Labour party that despises the working classes. |
Fks sake. Have you actually been paying attention to what's been going on over the last 11 years?
I'm not a Labour fanboy, but this shows exactly why we've ended up with a Government that's run us into the ground, and loved every minute of it. We're screwed. |  |
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| Blimey on 20:19 - Mar 4 with 967 views | Trequartista |
| Blimey on 20:06 - Mar 4 by Swansea_Blue |
Fks sake. Have you actually been paying attention to what's been going on over the last 11 years?
I'm not a Labour fanboy, but this shows exactly why we've ended up with a Government that's run us into the ground, and loved every minute of it. We're screwed. |
That's not a defence of the government, it was suggesting a theory of why people have not voted for the alternative.
11 years ago was the Gillian Duffy incident i believe. | |
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| Blimey on 20:26 - Mar 4 with 946 views | vapour_trail |
| Blimey on 20:06 - Mar 4 by Lord_Lucan |
Johnson Jab, ha ha.
I have just quoted that on our lads group thing to one of my very anti Boris mates who was due to get a Johnson Jab yesterday.
I thought the Jabs Army thing in The Sun was a good line but you've got the biscuit Vapes. |
Hmm, not sure I want the credit if that takes off. |  |
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| Blimey on 20:28 - Mar 4 with 951 views | SpruceMoose |
| Blimey on 20:06 - Mar 4 by Swansea_Blue |
Fks sake. Have you actually been paying attention to what's been going on over the last 11 years?
I'm not a Labour fanboy, but this shows exactly why we've ended up with a Government that's run us into the ground, and loved every minute of it. We're screwed. |
Remember that you're talking to the fella with the forum's most appropriate profile picture here. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Blimey on 20:48 - Mar 4 with 936 views | Trequartista |
| Blimey on 20:28 - Mar 4 by SpruceMoose |
Remember that you're talking to the fella with the forum's most appropriate profile picture here. |
Is that not the face of all of us who would not contemplate voting Conservative when we see the big leads in the polls and successive governments?
I don't think dismissing and abusing those who have voted Conservative is going to change anything. So my thinking is why are Labour unpopular, and I think back to that Gillian Duffy incident, and I think about how interested my plumber is in non-binary genders or being told how to think, and hence i put forward my theory for debate. | |
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| Blimey on 20:55 - Mar 4 with 929 views | SpruceMoose |
| Blimey on 20:48 - Mar 4 by Trequartista |
Is that not the face of all of us who would not contemplate voting Conservative when we see the big leads in the polls and successive governments?
I don't think dismissing and abusing those who have voted Conservative is going to change anything. So my thinking is why are Labour unpopular, and I think back to that Gillian Duffy incident, and I think about how interested my plumber is in non-binary genders or being told how to think, and hence i put forward my theory for debate. |
Good God.
What's with your obsession with everybody else's identity? Classic. Don't tell me what to think but I deserve to be taken seriously when I laugh in your face when you tell me how you'd like to identify.
Genius. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Blimey on 21:07 - Mar 4 with 909 views | vapour_trail |
| Blimey on 20:55 - Mar 4 by SpruceMoose |
Good God.
What's with your obsession with everybody else's identity? Classic. Don't tell me what to think but I deserve to be taken seriously when I laugh in your face when you tell me how you'd like to identify.
Genius. |
He has a point of sorts. You have to connect with your base and there are issues which are peripheral at best to the traditional base of labour, ie the working class.
That’s not to say you don’t follow a progressive agenda, but that you also need to effectively, from both a policy and a comms perspective, address the actual concerns of the base you are looking to motivate to put an X in your box every few years.
Where he said the Labour Party despise the working class, well that’s just the sort of boIIocks you read in a Littlejohn or Liddle opinion piece.
A good example of successfully pursuing a policy change that could alienate your base whilst effectively engaging them, would be the Cameron administration putting same sex marriage on the statute books against the wishes of many of their own parliamentarians and swivel eyed cohort who continue to vote for them.
A greater piece of equality legislation than anything achieved under the three previous Labour terms in government under Blair and Brown. | |
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| Blimey on 21:13 - Mar 4 with 891 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Blimey on 21:07 - Mar 4 by vapour_trail |
He has a point of sorts. You have to connect with your base and there are issues which are peripheral at best to the traditional base of labour, ie the working class.
That’s not to say you don’t follow a progressive agenda, but that you also need to effectively, from both a policy and a comms perspective, address the actual concerns of the base you are looking to motivate to put an X in your box every few years.
Where he said the Labour Party despise the working class, well that’s just the sort of boIIocks you read in a Littlejohn or Liddle opinion piece.
A good example of successfully pursuing a policy change that could alienate your base whilst effectively engaging them, would be the Cameron administration putting same sex marriage on the statute books against the wishes of many of their own parliamentarians and swivel eyed cohort who continue to vote for them.
A greater piece of equality legislation than anything achieved under the three previous Labour terms in government under Blair and Brown. |
Hating the working class is Blair's legacy to 'progressive' politics! |  |
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| Blimey on 21:15 - Mar 4 with 888 views | vapour_trail |
| Blimey on 20:48 - Mar 4 by Trequartista |
Is that not the face of all of us who would not contemplate voting Conservative when we see the big leads in the polls and successive governments?
I don't think dismissing and abusing those who have voted Conservative is going to change anything. So my thinking is why are Labour unpopular, and I think back to that Gillian Duffy incident, and I think about how interested my plumber is in non-binary genders or being told how to think, and hence i put forward my theory for debate. |
Who is the face, btw? | |
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| Blimey on 21:21 - Mar 4 with 890 views | Trequartista |
| Blimey on 21:07 - Mar 4 by vapour_trail |
He has a point of sorts. You have to connect with your base and there are issues which are peripheral at best to the traditional base of labour, ie the working class.
That’s not to say you don’t follow a progressive agenda, but that you also need to effectively, from both a policy and a comms perspective, address the actual concerns of the base you are looking to motivate to put an X in your box every few years.
Where he said the Labour Party despise the working class, well that’s just the sort of boIIocks you read in a Littlejohn or Liddle opinion piece.
A good example of successfully pursuing a policy change that could alienate your base whilst effectively engaging them, would be the Cameron administration putting same sex marriage on the statute books against the wishes of many of their own parliamentarians and swivel eyed cohort who continue to vote for them.
A greater piece of equality legislation than anything achieved under the three previous Labour terms in government under Blair and Brown. |
'Despised' could probably changed to 'alienated' to be more accurate i admit, but i stole it from the title of a recent Paul Embery (socialist and former trades union executive) book "Despised - Why the Modern Left Loathes the Working Class", not from Littlejohn or Liddle. | |
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| Blimey on 21:30 - Mar 4 with 871 views | vapour_trail |
| Blimey on 21:21 - Mar 4 by Trequartista |
'Despised' could probably changed to 'alienated' to be more accurate i admit, but i stole it from the title of a recent Paul Embery (socialist and former trades union executive) book "Despised - Why the Modern Left Loathes the Working Class", not from Littlejohn or Liddle. |
Sort of thing they’d coin though. Have seen it from quite a few on here as well. Don’t know him, will look him up.
And yes Limmy, I actually follow him on Twitter as well, had been bugging me for a while that.
Cheers. | |
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| Blimey on 21:41 - Mar 4 with 864 views | Trequartista |
| Blimey on 21:30 - Mar 4 by vapour_trail |
Sort of thing they’d coin though. Have seen it from quite a few on here as well. Don’t know him, will look him up.
And yes Limmy, I actually follow him on Twitter as well, had been bugging me for a while that.
Cheers. |
It is probably something they would say too i agree, sometimes in pursuit of the truth I may find myself agreeing on a point with the most disagreeable people, but you have to play the ball not the man. [Post edited 4 Mar 2021 21:41]
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| Blimey on 21:42 - Mar 4 with 854 views | vapour_trail |
| Blimey on 21:41 - Mar 4 by Trequartista |
It is probably something they would say too i agree, sometimes in pursuit of the truth I may find myself agreeing on a point with the most disagreeable people, but you have to play the ball not the man. [Post edited 4 Mar 2021 21:41]
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Agree with that - i agree with Morgan on stuff at times - but i don’t believe the original statement is true.
Alienated was closer perhaps. | |
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| Blimey on 21:50 - Mar 4 with 844 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Blimey on 18:57 - Mar 4 by StokieBlue |
It's not that surprising on the back of a successful vaccine rollout, some people tend to sway in the wind and at the moment the vaccine rollout is front and centre.
Let's see if it's anything like that in 2 years time when all the cronyism has been exposed along with the wasted billions and any investigations into the deaths. There is also the serious risk of job losses and other financial challenges which will come up over the next year.
As it stands it's meaningless as there will be no Westminster election to vote in for quite some time.
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It would be nice to think this is true, but by 2015 it was quite clear what a bunch of sh1ts they were, and they were re-elected. Since then they've only got worse, and been re-elected twice more.
The BBC and other decent media could run stories 24/7 about the corruption, lies etc, but I can't see it making a blind bit of difference to many of the people that vote for the Tories, who will just dismiss it as 'marxist bias' or whatever tripe the Express/Mail/Sun/GB News drip feeds them with. |  | | |
| Blimey on 21:54 - Mar 4 with 833 views | StokieBlue |
| Blimey on 21:50 - Mar 4 by Clapham_Junction |
It would be nice to think this is true, but by 2015 it was quite clear what a bunch of sh1ts they were, and they were re-elected. Since then they've only got worse, and been re-elected twice more.
The BBC and other decent media could run stories 24/7 about the corruption, lies etc, but I can't see it making a blind bit of difference to many of the people that vote for the Tories, who will just dismiss it as 'marxist bias' or whatever tripe the Express/Mail/Sun/GB News drip feeds them with. |
Perhaps.
I still prefer to hope that given the events of the last year that when things calm down and are finally investigated that some people at least will change their opinions based on the evidence and facts.
I know it's a lot to ask but if I lose total hope in that then what's left?
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| Blimey on 21:56 - Mar 4 with 829 views | m14_blue |
| Blimey on 19:31 - Mar 4 by lowhouseblue |
it's pretty simple. party politics are suspended during a national emergency. it's what normal people expect. all the poll is showing is a degree of relief that the end is now in sight.
once there's some normality starmer will run rings around them. |
Pretty much this.
I’m less confident about your second paragraph but the first one is definitely right and I’m amazed so few people have realised it.
In times of national emergency the incumbents are always pretty popular, people crave unity and patriotism and being in opposition is incredibly difficult. Starmer has been dealing with a global pandemic for the entirety of his reign and the polls now are utterly irrelevant to an election that is years away.
Notwithstanding that, I have to say he’s been underwhelming so far and I’m more than a little worried. |  | | |
| Blimey on 21:57 - Mar 4 with 826 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Blimey on 21:54 - Mar 4 by StokieBlue |
Perhaps.
I still prefer to hope that given the events of the last year that when things calm down and are finally investigated that some people at least will change their opinions based on the evidence and facts.
I know it's a lot to ask but if I lose total hope in that then what's left?
SB |
Unfortunately I think I have lost total hope :( | | | |
| Blimey on 23:23 - Mar 4 with 775 views | 26_Paz |
| Blimey on 19:59 - Mar 4 by Trequartista |
Or alternatively a Labour party that despises the working classes. |
Exactly this. They do not understand the priorities of the honest working man because they are so alienated from honest working people they may as well live on Mars. |  |
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| Blimey on 23:38 - Mar 4 with 767 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Blimey on 23:23 - Mar 4 by 26_Paz |
Exactly this. They do not understand the priorities of the honest working man because they are so alienated from honest working people they may as well live on Mars. |
Yep Boris is a much more honest working man than Keir Starmer....
Except for the fact that he isn't honest, can't be bothered with detail and generally wings it.
Your statement is cobblers basically |  | | |
| Blimey on 23:41 - Mar 4 with 756 views | StokieBlue |
| Blimey on 23:23 - Mar 4 by 26_Paz |
Exactly this. They do not understand the priorities of the honest working man because they are so alienated from honest working people they may as well live on Mars. |
Can you tell us which political figure or party who in your opinion understands the priorities of the honest working man?
What is an honest working man? What about honest working woman?
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