| The Never Ending Story - A Violent History on 14:25 - Mar 15 with 2117 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| The Never Ending Story - A Violent History on 12:57 - Mar 15 by Pendejo |
All publicity is good publicity? Ask the Met post weekend vigils... But this instance gets headlines for the Greens and was made days ago.
There are no answers guaranteed to end violence from that against individuals or groups, however you draw a line; women, red heads, religion, skin colour, sexual orientation, nationality, being left handed etc. From random acts of individual savagery to war / genocide.
Let's face it the human race has always produced some pretty nasty specimans, some get to do their thing on an industrial scale right down to people who abuse animals. There is no definitive answer to all.
There is much to be made public about the Everard case, but the swift movement from missing woman to man charged I think indicates something that when it becomes public knowledge will make any protest this far seem small. Someone knew something and didn't act on it, purely conjecture on my part.
Stranger danger probably plays on most people's minds but is miniscule, most acts of violence, from low level assault to rape to murder, is committed by someone known to the victim, usually serially and no amount of protesting or putting more laws on the statute books will change.
The only thing, imo, that can change things is identifying and intervention early to prevent escalation. But how the deck you do that I don't know.
We have to accept that there are people out there that are evil and opportunistic, people who care not about the rights of others but once caught have their rights protected in law.
Just think in Islam and Judaism there is the dressing of woman modestly, presumably so as not to inflame rampant make testosterone and sexual aggression, yet wearing there more extreme end of this clothing "incites" rampant hatred in some.
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There is another way to change things - education, from a very early age, as I posted the other day.
Get young boys seeing themselves as protectors of women rather than attackers (I don't mean that literally - I mean in the sense of automatically thinking in a way that ends up protecting women, such as having it ingrained that when you find yourself walking behind a woman you, almost without thinking, cross the road). Changing the mentality.
It won't stop absolute nutters, presumably, but it would go a long way to stopping the milder or unintentional stuff we've all probably been guilty of at some point. |  |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 14:25 - Mar 15 with 2117 views | bluelagos |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 14:13 - Mar 15 by factual_blue |
They could add ageist while they're about it.
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You could have, rather more modestly, PM'd Phil with your suggestion. [Post edited 15 Mar 2021 14:18]
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And deny you the opportunity to add your support for the idea? |  |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 14:34 - Mar 15 with 2087 views | factual_blue |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 14:25 - Mar 15 by bluelagos |
And deny you the opportunity to add your support for the idea? |
The mere existence of the post does that, without the added bit of what some would see as 'virtue signalling'.
(I don't see it like that btw). |  |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 14:56 - Mar 15 with 2056 views | PhilTWTD |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 13:45 - Mar 15 by bluelagos |
Here's one for admin - our site t&c are thus
"Don't swear, post libellous, racist, homophobic, threatening or adult material or harass other users"
Maybe if they can add "misogynistic" then at least people can highlight inappropriate posts just like we would for racist or homophobic ones.
Going to "abuse" my own post - just so they can see the suggestion. |
Fair point, although I hope most would take that as read. I'll have a word with Gav. |  | | |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 14:58 - Mar 15 with 2048 views | Radlett_blue |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 14:56 - Mar 15 by PhilTWTD |
Fair point, although I hope most would take that as read. I'll have a word with Gav. |
Are you also planning to do anything about those who disrupt the chat room by continually posting pictures of clapping? I thought you banned this a while ago. |  |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 15:23 - Mar 15 with 2017 views | bluelagos |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 14:56 - Mar 15 by PhilTWTD |
Fair point, although I hope most would take that as read. I'll have a word with Gav. |
Assuming you keep records of "abuse reported" - so can I request 1 free abusive post too :-) | |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 15:26 - Mar 15 with 2008 views | bluelagos |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 14:58 - Mar 15 by Radlett_blue |
Are you also planning to do anything about those who disrupt the chat room by continually posting pictures of clapping? I thought you banned this a while ago. |
Must have been a long while since that's been a problem? | |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 16:10 - Mar 15 with 1961 views | Radlett_blue |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 15:26 - Mar 15 by bluelagos |
Must have been a long while since that's been a problem? |
There were a few doing it on Saturday in the last 15 minutes or so. | |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 16:27 - Mar 15 with 1933 views | factual_blue |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 14:56 - Mar 15 by PhilTWTD |
Fair point, although I hope most would take that as read. I'll have a word with Gav. |
And ageism.
Thank you. | |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 16:35 - Mar 15 with 1921 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 16:27 - Mar 15 by factual_blue |
And ageism.
Thank you. |
Agreed. Gloating over pension terms that the youngsters have no chance of ever seeing should result in no hobnobs for a week! |  |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 16:51 - Mar 15 with 1905 views | Meadowlark |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 12:14 - Mar 15 by bluelagos |
Almost as if lots of men are ignorant or blind to the very real issues many women face...
Anyhow - any suggestions? The 3% conviction rate for rape is deeply concerning. It means that 32 out of 33 rapists are free to re-offend. And they know it too... |
No it doesn't!
It means 97 out of a hundred men charged with rape were found not guilty.
You are implying that those 97 are all guilty.
Exaggeration and misinterpreting the facts don't really help. |  | | |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 16:53 - Mar 15 with 1899 views | bluelagos |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 16:51 - Mar 15 by Meadowlark |
No it doesn't!
It means 97 out of a hundred men charged with rape were found not guilty.
You are implying that those 97 are all guilty.
Exaggeration and misinterpreting the facts don't really help. |
Actually you're wrong. As was I.
Earlier today, in parliament, it was stated that 99% of rape complaints never even get to trial... | |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 17:17 - Mar 15 with 1878 views | factual_blue |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 16:35 - Mar 15 by Swansea_Blue |
Agreed. Gloating over pension terms that the youngsters have no chance of ever seeing should result in no hobnobs for a week! |
And on top of that, I'll be getting my first payment of state Retirement Pension in about four weeks time. | |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 18:26 - Mar 15 with 1847 views | solemio |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 17:17 - Mar 15 by factual_blue |
And on top of that, I'll be getting my first payment of state Retirement Pension in about four weeks time. |
You're a mere child, although it does depend, I suppose, from where you're looking. |  | | |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 00:56 - Mar 16 with 1792 views | pointofblue |
| Serious case of over-reaction on 14:22 - Mar 15 by Radlett_blue |
The main reason why rape convictions are so low is that it usually comes down to a dispute over whether consent was given. Most rapes don't involve a man holding a woman at knife point. In these cases, the only 2 witnesses are the accused and the plaintiff so no wonder that a jury has a problem deciding who is telling the truth, especially as they are supposed to give a defendant the benefit of "reasonable doubt", rather than simply making an educated guess on the balance of probabilities. |
Defence solicitors have learned how to present a case to cast reasonable doubt - as the majority of rape cases are based on versions of the same story from prosecution and defence it’s easy to get a not guilty verdict and also explains why the CPS has become very selective about which cases go to court. | |
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| Serious case of over-reaction on 01:02 - Mar 16 with 1792 views | pointofblue |
Unrelated to my previous post, and this may seem crude, but regulate pornography in a much better way might help too. There was an attempt to do this under Theresa May which didn’t work out but the rise of the dark web and even the amount of mainstream porn which presents men leering at women who, every single time, then decide to go with them sends out the wrong message, particularly to those of an impressionable age.
I’m only in my mid 30s but, even when I was at school, it felt like sex ed was classroom based. Now it feels like it’s more internet based which is particularly unhealthy. | |
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