| Anti vax news. 22:25 - Mar 15 with 4409 views | Lord_Lucan |
Don’t shoot the messenger.
Currently staying in Dorset. My colleague down here just got a text from his girlfriend saying that EU have mothballed AZ jab. This of course may be incorrect - she is a nurse at Bournemouth hospital.
I think she’s an anti. She reckons that very few of her colleagues are taking the jab.
She does sound a bit of a fruit loop.
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| Anti vax news. on 22:32 - Mar 15 with 3707 views | J2BLUE |
Some of them have suspended giving it out.
If they don't want it there are plenty of countries who will take it off their hands. |  |
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| Anti vax news. on 22:38 - Mar 15 with 3670 views | StokieBlue |
The EMA will announce their findings tomorrow, however at the moment it's individual countries not allowing it rather than the EU as a whole.
Italy went back into lockdown tonight due to a rise in cases from the UK variant. If they don't use AZ it's hard to see how they can prevent having lockdowns in most EU countries given the B117 variant is still growing in all EU countries. So their decision is either use the AZ vaccine and possibly have an incredibly small chance of an unconfirmed correlated incident or have a lot more guaranteed deaths from a new C19 wave and lockdowns for more months.
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| Anti vax news. on 22:46 - Mar 15 with 3622 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Anti vax news. on 22:38 - Mar 15 by StokieBlue |
The EMA will announce their findings tomorrow, however at the moment it's individual countries not allowing it rather than the EU as a whole.
Italy went back into lockdown tonight due to a rise in cases from the UK variant. If they don't use AZ it's hard to see how they can prevent having lockdowns in most EU countries given the B117 variant is still growing in all EU countries. So their decision is either use the AZ vaccine and possibly have an incredibly small chance of an unconfirmed correlated incident or have a lot more guaranteed deaths from a new C19 wave and lockdowns for more months.
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I don’t disagree.
Lucan is happily vaxed and I believe the EU thing is largely (pathetically) political.
I’m more interested in the seemingly growing reports of NHS staff refusals. | |
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| Anti vax news. on 22:47 - Mar 15 with 3610 views | blueblueburleymcgrew |
| Anti vax news. on 22:38 - Mar 15 by StokieBlue |
The EMA will announce their findings tomorrow, however at the moment it's individual countries not allowing it rather than the EU as a whole.
Italy went back into lockdown tonight due to a rise in cases from the UK variant. If they don't use AZ it's hard to see how they can prevent having lockdowns in most EU countries given the B117 variant is still growing in all EU countries. So their decision is either use the AZ vaccine and possibly have an incredibly small chance of an unconfirmed correlated incident or have a lot more guaranteed deaths from a new C19 wave and lockdowns for more months.
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I see Belgium amongst others still using AZ saying it’s a race against time.
Got mine tomorrow don’t care which one I have. |  | | |
| Anti vax news. on 23:05 - Mar 15 with 3524 views | Bad_Boy_Mark |
Hey LL, I too am currently staying in Dorset and know this hospital well.
There are a hard core of staff whom are not keen on the vaccine and some others are following so they don't appear to not be sticking together.
I had my first jab about a month ago and am looking forward to receiving the second one as soon as I can... |  | | |
| Anti vax news. on 07:50 - Mar 16 with 3167 views | Guthrum |
Anecdotally, I've spoken to far more people who have had (mild) side effects from the Pfizer jab than anybody getting anything from Astra Zeneca.
A lot of this seems to be centred on the one case from Denmark where a patient died from blood clots after having had the AZ vaccine. However, as far as I'm aware, it's only a single instance so far, plus there is the suggestion they may have had underlying issues also. |  |
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| Anti vax news. on 07:58 - Mar 16 with 3121 views | Herbivore |
| Anti vax news. on 22:46 - Mar 15 by Lord_Lucan |
I don’t disagree.
Lucan is happily vaxed and I believe the EU thing is largely (pathetically) political.
I’m more interested in the seemingly growing reports of NHS staff refusals. |
It's not the EU. It's some individual European countries. Other individual European countries are still happily using it. |  |
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| Anti vax news. on 07:59 - Mar 16 with 3117 views | blueislander |
| Anti vax news. on 22:46 - Mar 15 by Lord_Lucan |
I don’t disagree.
Lucan is happily vaxed and I believe the EU thing is largely (pathetically) political.
I’m more interested in the seemingly growing reports of NHS staff refusals. |
I think you are right. The EU anti AZ stance is pathetically political. |  | | |
| Anti vax news. on 08:01 - Mar 16 with 3110 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Anti vax news. on 07:50 - Mar 16 by Guthrum |
Anecdotally, I've spoken to far more people who have had (mild) side effects from the Pfizer jab than anybody getting anything from Astra Zeneca.
A lot of this seems to be centred on the one case from Denmark where a patient died from blood clots after having had the AZ vaccine. However, as far as I'm aware, it's only a single instance so far, plus there is the suggestion they may have had underlying issues also. |
I think this is what kicked it off..
https://pharmaphorum.com/news/austrian-authorities-suspend-batch-of-az-vaccine-a |  |
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| Anti vax news. on 08:06 - Mar 16 with 3091 views | wkj |
After having my first of two jabs I have found my sex life has improved considerably, people are crazy not to want it.
As in the jab too.
As in the vaccine jab. |  |
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| Anti vax news. on 08:11 - Mar 16 with 3066 views | Herbivore |
| Anti vax news. on 07:59 - Mar 16 by blueislander |
I think you are right. The EU anti AZ stance is pathetically political. |
Except this isn't an EU decision, it is some national governments of European countries. | |
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| Anti vax news. on 08:20 - Mar 16 with 3025 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Anti vax news. on 23:05 - Mar 15 by Bad_Boy_Mark |
Hey LL, I too am currently staying in Dorset and know this hospital well.
There are a hard core of staff whom are not keen on the vaccine and some others are following so they don't appear to not be sticking together.
I had my first jab about a month ago and am looking forward to receiving the second one as soon as I can... |
Hold on. What you are accusing some staff of Dorset Healthcare NHS Trust of here, is misconduct, which they could be struck off from the NMC or GMB for.
I assume you have evidence of the hard core of staff 'not keen on the vaccine'? As opposed to 'stuff I read on social media'? [Post edited 16 Mar 2021 10:09]
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| Anti vax news. on 08:20 - Mar 16 with 3023 views | itfcjoe |
My cleaner is one of those who reads and believes everything on Facebook about covid.....her daughter or friends daughter isn't taking vaccine and is a nurse apparently. Or she read a nurse wouldn't have one on Facebook.....I forget the detail |  |
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| Anti vax news. on 08:22 - Mar 16 with 3009 views | itfcjoe |
Higher immigrant and BAME communities who seem to have a lower take up.
Anecdotally, we have a Romanian guy work for us and he has said his wife is refusing to have hers | |
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| Anti vax news. on 08:24 - Mar 16 with 2992 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Proportionately, in London they are dealing with a much higher BAME staffing levels, who are being heavily targeted by an unbelievable level of false and misleading claims about the vaccine on social media.
A friend of mine who is a photographer and also active in the BAME community, showed me some of the social media posts aimed at persuading people not to have the vaccine. It was at times, horrific. | |
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| Anti vax news. on 08:28 - Mar 16 with 2974 views | blueislander |
| Anti vax news. on 08:11 - Mar 16 by Herbivore |
Except this isn't an EU decision, it is some national governments of European countries. |
Apologies. It is indeed the individual countries within the EU rather than the EU as a body. | | | |
| Anti vax news. on 08:31 - Mar 16 with 2958 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Anti vax news. on 07:58 - Mar 16 by Herbivore |
It's not the EU. It's some individual European countries. Other individual European countries are still happily using it. |
Yes I agree, it’s not a directive. | |
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| Anti vax news. on 08:49 - Mar 16 with 2893 views | Herbivore |
| Anti vax news. on 08:28 - Mar 16 by blueislander |
Apologies. It is indeed the individual countries within the EU rather than the EU as a body. |
No need to apologise, mate. It's easily done. Ironically the fat cat bureaucrats in Brussels can still get their jab. | |
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| Anti vax news. on 08:50 - Mar 16 with 2887 views | noggin |
| Anti vax news. on 08:11 - Mar 16 by Herbivore |
Except this isn't an EU decision, it is some national governments of European countries. |
Indeed. Isn't AZ part Swedish owned? |  |
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| Anti vax news. on 09:05 - Mar 16 with 2830 views | StokieBlue |
It would be interesting to see the Venn diagram of the NHS take-up in London with the areas in which they live and the ethnicity.
Some areas, such as Tower Hamlets are struggling badly to get anyone to take the vaccine.
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| Anti vax news. on 09:08 - Mar 16 with 2814 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Anti vax news. on 08:49 - Mar 16 by Herbivore |
No need to apologise, mate. It's easily done. Ironically the fat cat bureaucrats in Brussels can still get their jab. |
EMA are supposedly making an announcement around lunchtime. |  |
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| Anti vax news. on 09:09 - Mar 16 with 2814 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Anti vax news. on 09:05 - Mar 16 by StokieBlue |
It would be interesting to see the Venn diagram of the NHS take-up in London with the areas in which they live and the ethnicity.
Some areas, such as Tower Hamlets are struggling badly to get anyone to take the vaccine.
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76% take up was what I heard on the radio last week. | |
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| Anti vax news. on 09:09 - Mar 16 with 2815 views | hype313 |
It's all political, with Merkel and Macron trying to save face.
Absolute madness, 37 cases in 17m, also correlation does not imply causation, these blood clots are what the experts expect at any given time, actually they are less than that, so in essence, getting the AZ jab means it's less of a risk getting DVT! |  |
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