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The takeover obsession is weird 08:15 - Mar 16 with 3553 viewsBluefish

It doesn't really have any great short term benefit to the supporters but they are so desperate for it and you fear a total meltdown if it goes wrong. The long term benefits are also unproven and a bit of a gamble.

It makes you wonder what the desperation is being driven by, is it the last connection to Mick. Is it the last thing to try and blame? We have the biggest budget in this division and have for for both seasons. There isn't even a transfer window between now and the end of the season. The big ME issue was manager appointment and he has done that now and everyone seems happy with that

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The takeover obsession is weird on 10:22 - Mar 16 with 633 viewsBluefish

The takeover obsession is weird on 10:00 - Mar 16 by chicoazul

Are you happy with Cook Blubbers?


His name is Paul and he is a scouser but I am doing my very best to love him.

He is a proper football manager though it seems so hopefully he can fill Mick's big shoes

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The takeover obsession is weird on 10:25 - Mar 16 with 619 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

The takeover obsession is weird on 09:54 - Mar 16 by gordon

What Barnsley and Brentford and others are demonstrating is that if you put in place the right people and the right model, then you can generate significant value and good results from a rigorous, data-driven approach to player recruitment.

The recruitment at ITFC has been absolutely awful under Evans, no thought or principle behind what we do, just complete faith in manager's judgement, and Evans seems to have no understanding that this is an issue.

Over the next few years there'll be a bit of a revolution in how clubs at our level do recruitment, and if we stay with Evans all the evidence suggests that we are just going to let it pass us by and muddle onwards, with statements released every couple of years to try and shift the blame for that onto whoever he can think of, and remind us how bad he is at managing football clubs by telling us that he funds our massive operating loss.

Having loads of money (while it would help) really isn't the be all and end all - Evans has ploughed loads into ITFC with awful results, because of the way it's been invested and how badly the club is set up.


I agree that Brentford are an exceptional model, and very much an anomaly.

I am not so sure that Barnsley have proven to be in the same league in terms of recruitment etc... yet.

Brentford and Barnsley do also have the bonus have having very significant capital behind them to ensure the future of the clubs.

I am not saying Evans is the answer, I am saying that I am very much not convinced that Brett M Johnson was the answer either.
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The takeover obsession is weird on 11:07 - Mar 16 with 596 viewsN2_Blue

The takeover obsession is weird on 08:26 - Mar 16 by Metal_Hacker

From my own personal opinion I'd rather it go through sooner rather than later to eliminate any concerns the players have so they're settled and it'd also be a massive boost to the club in terms of hope looking forward going into a very important period of the season and hopefully making the play offs.Would be a huge boost for all concerned

Thereafter , no one knows - nothing is guaranteed either way


Why so desperate metalhacker?

Maybe it's fallen through because Evans or the EFL don't see this as being a good thing and putting the club at to big a risk based on the intentions of the consortium.

Most of us know nothing about the finite details of the takeover yet too many seem desperate for it to go through....takeovers can be a disaster if they are the wrong ones....maybe it's fallen through because this is not a good thing.

I wanted a new manager, we've got that. Now I hope Cook can also encourage Evans to also address the structure of the club and gets some football people in to deal with day to day running of the club off the pitch. That is more crucial to me than any take over that's not likely to have much cash backing to it.

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The takeover obsession is weird on 11:11 - Mar 16 with 590 viewsportmanking

The takeover obsession is weird on 11:07 - Mar 16 by N2_Blue

Why so desperate metalhacker?

Maybe it's fallen through because Evans or the EFL don't see this as being a good thing and putting the club at to big a risk based on the intentions of the consortium.

Most of us know nothing about the finite details of the takeover yet too many seem desperate for it to go through....takeovers can be a disaster if they are the wrong ones....maybe it's fallen through because this is not a good thing.

I wanted a new manager, we've got that. Now I hope Cook can also encourage Evans to also address the structure of the club and gets some football people in to deal with day to day running of the club off the pitch. That is more crucial to me than any take over that's not likely to have much cash backing to it.


SMH....

On your final paragraph. Evans has had 13 YEARS to get some proper football people in to handle the day-to-day running of the club. He simply isn't prepared to do that. He's a control freak, but only prepared to commit 25% of his time to us. It's absolute madness. Multiple managers with proven track records, including McCarthy, have failed to revolutionise the inner workings of Portman Road, so why will Cook be any different?

This blind faith that somehow Evans is going to have an epiphany and overhaul our recruitment, sports science and commercial arms is more dangerous than believing a new consortium to have a better chance of taking the club forward IMO.
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The takeover obsession is weird on 11:15 - Mar 16 with 585 viewsMetal_Hacker

The takeover obsession is weird on 11:07 - Mar 16 by N2_Blue

Why so desperate metalhacker?

Maybe it's fallen through because Evans or the EFL don't see this as being a good thing and putting the club at to big a risk based on the intentions of the consortium.

Most of us know nothing about the finite details of the takeover yet too many seem desperate for it to go through....takeovers can be a disaster if they are the wrong ones....maybe it's fallen through because this is not a good thing.

I wanted a new manager, we've got that. Now I hope Cook can also encourage Evans to also address the structure of the club and gets some football people in to deal with day to day running of the club off the pitch. That is more crucial to me than any take over that's not likely to have much cash backing to it.


Sorry who's desperate ? Not me !!!

If it happens it happens end of .... I've been consistent with my opinion . We need a change but I'm in no rush . Fire and frying pan etc

Far from desperate

My point being , if it IS going to happen make it now so this sh1t ends

You missed my point fella

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The takeover obsession is weird on 13:25 - Mar 16 with 557 viewsradiogaga

The takeover obsession is weird on 08:20 - Mar 16 by Bluefish

Bit of a funny snappy answer joers

What benefits are there to be had this season from the takeover completing?


I didn't see that as funny/ snappy at all. And there is no obsession that I can see about the takeover, naturally people are going to be interested in what unfolds/ does not unfold with it as it is a big thing for the club.

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The takeover obsession is weird on 13:45 - Mar 16 with 535 viewsMach_foreignBlue

Nowhere near as weird as your obsession about Edwards.
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The takeover obsession is weird on 13:46 - Mar 16 with 535 viewsgordon

The takeover obsession is weird on 10:25 - Mar 16 by Marshalls_Mullet

I agree that Brentford are an exceptional model, and very much an anomaly.

I am not so sure that Barnsley have proven to be in the same league in terms of recruitment etc... yet.

Brentford and Barnsley do also have the bonus have having very significant capital behind them to ensure the future of the clubs.

I am not saying Evans is the answer, I am saying that I am very much not convinced that Brett M Johnson was the answer either.
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Barnsley have recruited brilliantly since their takeover, and they'll start to bring in big fees this summer, if they aren't promoted to the premier league.

They have invested, but it's pretty much all been spent on younger players with the potential to appreciate in value significantly.
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The takeover obsession is weird on 14:08 - Mar 16 with 517 viewsStewart27

The takeover obsession is weird on 08:44 - Mar 16 by Marshalls_Mullet

Also, very little is known about where the funding is coming from, exactly who is involved, and what the plan is.


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The takeover obsession is weird on 14:09 - Mar 16 with 517 viewsHARRY10

The takeover obsession is weird on 13:46 - Mar 16 by gordon

Barnsley have recruited brilliantly since their takeover, and they'll start to bring in big fees this summer, if they aren't promoted to the premier league.

They have invested, but it's pretty much all been spent on younger players with the potential to appreciate in value significantly.


Whereas much of our recruitment has been very short term, with players brought in for a season or so before drifting off elsewhere.

The plan each summer seems to be lets assemble some motley crew of cast offs and freebies and see if they can get us promoted. If not, we can start all over again next summer,

The club seems to have a very re-active approach to things. Only act when it is absolutely necessary Amble along at snails pace trusting that it will be our turn again soon, as long as we are patient enough.

Is it money that have put Wycombe ahead of us ? Or is it, as I expect, with so many lesser clubs around us, that they are better organised and more focussed ?

Because it has to be something as we have pretty much struggled since Evans arrived.
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The takeover obsession is weird on 18:40 - Mar 16 with 466 viewshaynes_toe1

You can see why we've allowed the club to fall to its knees.

Evans has been an unmitigated disaster and every single managerial appointment has been diabolical bar one.

Yet on here there's fans who, because he's changed manager 2 years too late, we should "wait and see" what we can do under Evans. He will never be under significant pressure to leave. Never.
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