Really bad start from Cook 17:00 - Mar 27 with 6366 views | thebooks | Whether this is a good, bad or indifferent squad, Cook has failed to get anything more out of them than Lambert or Gill. We shouldn’t have been happy with writing this season off. There’s no reason why the Cowleys can turn round Portsmouth but Cook can’t do anything with Town. Huge pressure from the start of next season. Feeling like Lambert again at the moment. |  | | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 17:51 - Mar 27 with 1278 views | haynes_toe1 |
Really bad start from Cook on 17:39 - Mar 27 by Kropotkin123 | We are only three points off fifth. So far on that basis he has lost a grand total of two points. |
Quite. But we were 1 point adrift with a manager who was roundly deemed one of our worst ever and rightly so. Youd expect to see a vague improvement rather than a slight decline. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 17:57 - Mar 27 with 1253 views | pennblue | Sorry, you've got to give Cook time to have a clear out and build his own team. Consider you walking into a new place of work, and you quickly realise the whole place is a complete mess. Would it be fair to expect you to sort it out in a couple of weeks? You got to let him have a proper clear out and start from scratch. PL has been coaching these players to play out from the back all season. PC needs time to instil his philosophy. |  |
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Oh Please!!! on 18:07 - Mar 27 with 1233 views | Quilterstown |
Oh Please!!! on 17:11 - Mar 27 by unstableblue | Pompey had shown some consitent attacking guile and energy through the season-we simply hadn't This is a squad devoid of personality, energy and attacking intent. Cook is the man for us; but needs surgery on the squad, and the right players to match is energy and enthusiasm. |
Also Pompey players clearly knew their system, could deliver that system in a pragmatic way, and were more committed than ours. It matters little that we believe our players are better. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 18:07 - Mar 27 with 1232 views | pstudd |
Really bad start from Cook on 17:05 - Mar 27 by pointofblue | This season is a write off but Cook has to take some responsibility - we were only a point off the play offs when he joined. He’ll rightly get the summer but we must hit the ground running in August. |
TBF We’ve hit the ground running for the last two Augusts only to screw up later |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 18:09 - Mar 27 with 1224 views | RedX | What an absolutely pathetic opening post. One of the worst I’ve ever read on here. It’s not worth a reasonable response. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 19:56 - Mar 27 with 1163 views | Swansea_Blue |
Really bad start from Cook on 17:04 - Mar 27 by haynes_toe1 | This squad on paper is one of the strongest in the division. Of course players have significantly underperformed under both Lambert and now Cook. But Lambert was achieving a better PPG with this squad. This turd that cant be polished did scrape 3 wins in a row before Lambert left. Under Cook we've somehow managed to look even less creative. The sides he has put out would have people ploting to murder Lambert had he put them sides out. Cook deserves time but he has undeniably been poor thus far with little to no impact. Portsmouth on the other hand make a change and have immediate impact. |
On paper's all well and good. Unfortunately, on grass they've shown themselves to be considerably lacking for several years now. |  |
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Really bad start from Cook on 20:00 - Mar 27 with 1151 views | haynes_toe1 |
Really bad start from Cook on 19:56 - Mar 27 by Swansea_Blue | On paper's all well and good. Unfortunately, on grass they've shown themselves to be considerably lacking for several years now. |
Oh yeah agreed. Its not a lump all blame on one person..in reality we have 1) A proven failure in our owner. 2) A set of players who have underperformed and underdelivered. Some through multiple managers changes. 3) A new manager who has had zero impact and in fact made us ever so slightly worse. As a combination its very difficult to combat. Hence the belief that Cook needs more time. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 20:06 - Mar 27 with 1145 views | Kropotkin123 |
Really bad start from Cook on 17:51 - Mar 27 by haynes_toe1 | Quite. But we were 1 point adrift with a manager who was roundly deemed one of our worst ever and rightly so. Youd expect to see a vague improvement rather than a slight decline. |
Personally speaking, I hoped, rather than expected. He has had barely any time on the training ground, as early on we had two games per week. This is a big rut we are in. I think people are deluded to "expect" an instant improvement. To me it seems like some players don't care as they know they are gone in the summer either way. |  |
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Really bad start from Cook on 20:14 - Mar 27 with 1125 views | haynes_toe1 |
Really bad start from Cook on 20:06 - Mar 27 by Kropotkin123 | Personally speaking, I hoped, rather than expected. He has had barely any time on the training ground, as early on we had two games per week. This is a big rut we are in. I think people are deluded to "expect" an instant improvement. To me it seems like some players don't care as they know they are gone in the summer either way. |
Why would people be deluded? Managers walk into clubs bottom of the league without a win all season and are able to create a temporary improvement at least. It just smacks of the general lack of ambition throughout the club to not expect a new manager to yknow...make a difference. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 20:22 - Mar 27 with 1115 views | PJH |
Really bad start from Cook on 20:14 - Mar 27 by haynes_toe1 | Why would people be deluded? Managers walk into clubs bottom of the league without a win all season and are able to create a temporary improvement at least. It just smacks of the general lack of ambition throughout the club to not expect a new manager to yknow...make a difference. |
There is little point in changing managers at all unless it is expected that the new one coming in is going to improve things-unless the outgoing one is leaving for another job. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 20:25 - Mar 27 with 1108 views | haynes_toe1 |
Really bad start from Cook on 20:22 - Mar 27 by PJH | There is little point in changing managers at all unless it is expected that the new one coming in is going to improve things-unless the outgoing one is leaving for another job. |
Yeah, that's how I feel. I fully agree with others that Cook should be given some time because changing again is even more ludicrous. But if we are going to look at it objectively Cook hasn't delivered what I imagine Evans and he himself had expected to. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 20:26 - Mar 27 with 1108 views | azuremerlangus |
Really bad start from Cook on 17:01 - Mar 27 by noggin | You can't polish a turd. |
But you can varnish it - and then sprinkle it with glitter. I get the feeling what ever Cook tries with this squad won't work. If by some luck we get into the play-off we will still get stuffed. His task is to get it sorted out in the summer. [Post edited 27 Mar 2021 20:56]
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Really bad start from Cook on 20:35 - Mar 27 with 1091 views | SuperKieranMcKenna | Cook in. Evans out. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 21:54 - Mar 27 with 1029 views | blueprint |
Really bad start from Cook on 17:14 - Mar 27 by RobTheMonk | It's not been great. Look at Burton; Jimmy joined and they started doing well pretty quickly. Do they have better players than us? But, as I've said before, should have got Cook in before the transfer window. |
Burton probably do have better players that us. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 22:11 - Mar 27 with 1005 views | haynes_toe1 |
Really bad start from Cook on 21:54 - Mar 27 by blueprint | Burton probably do have better players that us. |
Funny how they've spent the entire season below us then? |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 23:48 - Mar 27 with 931 views | The_Last_Baron |
Really bad start from Cook on 17:03 - Mar 27 by chrismakin | Pompy. A side who have played with top 6 for the past 3 seasons. Went a bit damp lately. But their squad mentality is miles better than ours |
Portsmouth are a lot better than Town. There's a reason they've beaten us the last four times we've played. |  |
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Really bad start from Cook on 10:46 - Mar 28 with 855 views | brazil1982 |
Really bad start from Cook on 17:57 - Mar 27 by pennblue | Sorry, you've got to give Cook time to have a clear out and build his own team. Consider you walking into a new place of work, and you quickly realise the whole place is a complete mess. Would it be fair to expect you to sort it out in a couple of weeks? You got to let him have a proper clear out and start from scratch. PL has been coaching these players to play out from the back all season. PC needs time to instil his philosophy. |
I wouldn't expect to sort it out but I would like to see some improvement in performance. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 11:14 - Mar 28 with 839 views | Churchman |
Really bad start from Cook on 10:46 - Mar 28 by brazil1982 | I wouldn't expect to sort it out but I would like to see some improvement in performance. |
How? Why? If the players don’t want to do what he wants or can’t, what can he do before the summer? If the huge squad of losers are blaming others, just there to get fit for their new clubs, stealing a living by shining their rear ends on the treatment bench, give it 90% because they know it’s over in the summer, what exactly is Cook supposed to do? He can’t poke them with an electric cattle prod and he can’t play for them. You might say motivate them. Well if they are not too interested or just aren’t up to League One standard, it isn’t going to happen. Do you think Klopp or Guardiola could get any more from this rabble? It took Ferguson five years to get Man Utd going, yet people expect Cook to get this mob who haven’t performed in 3 years to rise like Lazarus and start ripping up the league. Give the bloke a chance. [Post edited 28 Mar 2021 11:15]
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Really bad start from Cook on 11:17 - Mar 28 with 828 views | pointofblue |
Really bad start from Cook on 11:14 - Mar 28 by Churchman | How? Why? If the players don’t want to do what he wants or can’t, what can he do before the summer? If the huge squad of losers are blaming others, just there to get fit for their new clubs, stealing a living by shining their rear ends on the treatment bench, give it 90% because they know it’s over in the summer, what exactly is Cook supposed to do? He can’t poke them with an electric cattle prod and he can’t play for them. You might say motivate them. Well if they are not too interested or just aren’t up to League One standard, it isn’t going to happen. Do you think Klopp or Guardiola could get any more from this rabble? It took Ferguson five years to get Man Utd going, yet people expect Cook to get this mob who haven’t performed in 3 years to rise like Lazarus and start ripping up the league. Give the bloke a chance. [Post edited 28 Mar 2021 11:15]
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No one is saying rip up the league - beating a side who had lost their last seven home games against top half sides by an aggregate score of 20-4 would be nice, though. |  |
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Really bad start from Cook on 11:29 - Mar 28 with 815 views | Churchman |
Really bad start from Cook on 11:17 - Mar 28 by pointofblue | No one is saying rip up the league - beating a side who had lost their last seven home games against top half sides by an aggregate score of 20-4 would be nice, though. |
Wouldn’t it just. But given the performance level of our team, played off the pitch by the likes of Swindon and Gillingham, scraping wins by the odd goal mostly, failing to win or play decently is hardly a surprise. Especially against a team in the relegation zone with the finish line approaching. My point is that people are already piling into Cook and am struggling to understand it. Basically, you can’t raise the dead and that seems to be the expectation on Cook with a group of people he inherited. If there is no sign of a team at Christmas I’ll criticise (Evans first of course!). But PC has to be given some sort of chance. [Post edited 28 Mar 2021 11:30]
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Really bad start from Cook on 11:38 - Mar 28 with 799 views | tractorboy1978 | Cook's last 7 seasons - 3 league titles, 2 play off finishes and two mid-table finishes with Wigan in the Championship (second season automatic promotion form post COVID). Give him time and a chance to build his own squad. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 11:44 - Mar 28 with 790 views | haynes_toe1 |
Really bad start from Cook on 11:14 - Mar 28 by Churchman | How? Why? If the players don’t want to do what he wants or can’t, what can he do before the summer? If the huge squad of losers are blaming others, just there to get fit for their new clubs, stealing a living by shining their rear ends on the treatment bench, give it 90% because they know it’s over in the summer, what exactly is Cook supposed to do? He can’t poke them with an electric cattle prod and he can’t play for them. You might say motivate them. Well if they are not too interested or just aren’t up to League One standard, it isn’t going to happen. Do you think Klopp or Guardiola could get any more from this rabble? It took Ferguson five years to get Man Utd going, yet people expect Cook to get this mob who haven’t performed in 3 years to rise like Lazarus and start ripping up the league. Give the bloke a chance. [Post edited 28 Mar 2021 11:15]
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Nevermind Klopp or Guardiola...id bet a decent sum that Mick would have got more out of this side in 5 games than Cook has so far. |  | |  |
Really bad start from Cook on 11:48 - Mar 28 with 789 views | pointofblue |
Really bad start from Cook on 11:29 - Mar 28 by Churchman | Wouldn’t it just. But given the performance level of our team, played off the pitch by the likes of Swindon and Gillingham, scraping wins by the odd goal mostly, failing to win or play decently is hardly a surprise. Especially against a team in the relegation zone with the finish line approaching. My point is that people are already piling into Cook and am struggling to understand it. Basically, you can’t raise the dead and that seems to be the expectation on Cook with a group of people he inherited. If there is no sign of a team at Christmas I’ll criticise (Evans first of course!). But PC has to be given some sort of chance. [Post edited 28 Mar 2021 11:30]
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Maybe because some people feel he wasn’t expected to raise the dead? We were one point adrift of the plays off when we kicked off at Gillingham, not cut adrift in 24th. |  |
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Really bad start from Cook on 11:53 - Mar 28 with 786 views | Churchman |
Really bad start from Cook on 11:44 - Mar 28 by haynes_toe1 | Nevermind Klopp or Guardiola...id bet a decent sum that Mick would have got more out of this side in 5 games than Cook has so far. |
I bet he wouldn’t. MM had something to work with. PC doesn’t. Plenty of bodies about the place but of our players, if they were all released tomorrow how many do you think would wind up at top half League One clubs or better? |  | |  |
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