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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous 09:45 - Apr 3 with 14919 viewsMullet

The latest findings from one teaching union found the following https://www.nasuwt.org.uk/article-listing/covid-impacts-on-teacher-mental-health

No other profession had the constant scrutiny and scapegoating from the government and its media chums did it? But the anonymous survey reveals grim reading at a time when people are trying to support each other still.

Then Hunt goes on to tweet some of the most tone deaf and sinister rhetoric aiming this at people.



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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:31 - Apr 3 with 766 viewsSpruceMoose

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:27 - Apr 3 by Kropotkin123

Have it in your own time, not at the expense of a child's education.


The funny thing is, despite all his views on education, and which kids should and should not be allowed to go hungry/drown in a dinghy, Paz probably isn't allowed within 500ft of any school!

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:32 - Apr 3 with 763 viewswkj

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:29 - Apr 3 by SpruceMoose

I really don't understand why some righties refuse to acknowledge the reality of our history, and instead prefer to think about these issues in the most simplistic and unsophisticated fashion.


I also don't understand why people on this conversation who are right-leaning are being labelled as leftist when they simply don't see how the flag enriches a child's education beyond being able to identify it.

Of course, no "rightist" would ever want political bias being taught in school - oh... wait... we seem to have reached the part in the conversation where Paz faces a dilemma.

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:32 - Apr 3 with 759 viewsTonytown

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:25 - Apr 3 by 26_Paz

There’s nothing primitive about loving one’s country. I really don’t understand why leftists hate their own country so much.


I hate racists like you
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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:34 - Apr 3 with 756 viewsmonytowbray

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 21:53 - Apr 3 by 26_Paz

You really need to get yourself some education.


Point in case.

I provide plenty of evidence to support my opinions on here, yet I'm still unsure exactly of this "context" you mention when defending racism from Johnson for example.

Do you understand what any of the words you use over 5 letters mean?

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:36 - Apr 3 with 732 viewsmonytowbray

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:25 - Apr 3 by Kropotkin123

He couldn't get any when he was younger. Too much time taken up learning about the British flag and singing the national anthem in assemblies. Some people thought it would improve his prospects and prepare him for life.


That and being told Bible stories and singing hymns as fact.

It amazes me so many people cling onto their GCSE History education.

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:37 - Apr 3 with 731 viewsSpruceMoose

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:32 - Apr 3 by wkj

I also don't understand why people on this conversation who are right-leaning are being labelled as leftist when they simply don't see how the flag enriches a child's education beyond being able to identify it.

Of course, no "rightist" would ever want political bias being taught in school - oh... wait... we seem to have reached the part in the conversation where Paz faces a dilemma.


He's just slinging labels around without really understanding what he's saying. Like a dog who has learnt a few tricks, it might be able to mimic an action, but it doesn't truly comprehend what it's doing.

Paz operates on a very basic level of thinking. Things are either definitely good or definitely bad. What's good and what's bad depend entirely on who is doing it and who it is being done to.

There's no middle ground for Paz, and as we've seen before, when slightly more valuable contributors to the forum try and point out the reality of a situation, his brain goes on the fritz. If I were him, I'd be on to my university asking for a refund.
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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:38 - Apr 3 with 721 viewsmonytowbray

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:29 - Apr 3 by SpruceMoose

I really don't understand why some righties refuse to acknowledge the reality of our history, and instead prefer to think about these issues in the most simplistic and unsophisticated fashion.


I understand.

Largely, it's because they are thick.

Then there's another small minority who benefit from pushing that fake reality to said thickos. like the MP named in the OP.

Which side is Paz on?
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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:40 - Apr 3 with 703 viewsSpruceMoose

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:38 - Apr 3 by monytowbray

I understand.

Largely, it's because they are thick.

Then there's another small minority who benefit from pushing that fake reality to said thickos. like the MP named in the OP.

Which side is Paz on?
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The side of hiding his partner's passport and making her sit through a Carry On marathon because she wasn't patriotic enough to weep when Queen Liz jumped out of the helicopter to start the Olympics.
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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:41 - Apr 3 with 696 viewsjeera

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:36 - Apr 3 by monytowbray

That and being told Bible stories and singing hymns as fact.

It amazes me so many people cling onto their GCSE History education.


Whoa there.

My O Level History education introduced me to architecture and art and I am glad for that.

You can't stand for the working class one moment and then slag them off the next.

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:42 - Apr 3 with 691 viewswkj

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:37 - Apr 3 by SpruceMoose

He's just slinging labels around without really understanding what he's saying. Like a dog who has learnt a few tricks, it might be able to mimic an action, but it doesn't truly comprehend what it's doing.

Paz operates on a very basic level of thinking. Things are either definitely good or definitely bad. What's good and what's bad depend entirely on who is doing it and who it is being done to.

There's no middle ground for Paz, and as we've seen before, when slightly more valuable contributors to the forum try and point out the reality of a situation, his brain goes on the fritz. If I were him, I'd be on to my university asking for a refund.
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Grimboy with better autocorrect?

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:43 - Apr 3 with 686 viewsSpruceMoose

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:42 - Apr 3 by wkj

TLDR

Grimboy with better autocorrect?


That works. Also: Benters with a proof reader. Lowhouse with a Shift key.

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:44 - Apr 3 with 680 viewsmonytowbray

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:41 - Apr 3 by jeera

Whoa there.

My O Level History education introduced me to architecture and art and I am glad for that.

You can't stand for the working class one moment and then slag them off the next.


Where have I mentioned the working class here? I myself have a GCSE in History FFS. It has nothing to do with class.

I'll file this one in my "Jeera's pre-assumed narrative of me that causes him to make things up then not apologise" drawer.

Jesus.
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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:44 - Apr 3 with 679 viewswkj

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:43 - Apr 3 by SpruceMoose

That works. Also: Benters with a proof reader. Lowhouse with a Shift key.


,brexit

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:45 - Apr 3 with 668 viewsKropotkin123

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:41 - Apr 3 by jeera

Whoa there.

My O Level History education introduced me to architecture and art and I am glad for that.

You can't stand for the working class one moment and then slag them off the next.


Mine was just Nazi Germany for 2 years. I guess it made me weary of integrating nationalism within the education system.

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:49 - Apr 3 with 649 viewsmonytowbray

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:45 - Apr 3 by Kropotkin123

Mine was just Nazi Germany for 2 years. I guess it made me weary of integrating nationalism within the education system.


My History GSCE (which may I add was optional the last two years) taught us nowt about the war. So basically, my educational minimum on WWII ended in year 9 at 14.

And yes, it was very much the flag waving simplified version.

Hence why we have such a large chunk of Britain who refuse to accept facts beyond that.

I’m sure flying some Union Jacks outside the school will fix this issue though.

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:53 - Apr 3 with 637 viewsjeera

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:44 - Apr 3 by monytowbray

Where have I mentioned the working class here? I myself have a GCSE in History FFS. It has nothing to do with class.

I'll file this one in my "Jeera's pre-assumed narrative of me that causes him to make things up then not apologise" drawer.

Jesus.
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You made a comment about working class education not being up to scratch; the insinuation is clear.

You file under whatever fits in your fantasies kiddo.

I'll file this under Calis's constant need to feel better about himself.

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:01 - Apr 3 with 627 viewsmonytowbray

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:53 - Apr 3 by jeera

You made a comment about working class education not being up to scratch; the insinuation is clear.

You file under whatever fits in your fantasies kiddo.

I'll file this under Calis's constant need to feel better about himself.


I made a comment about GSCE level education and what it teaches in history. Also in regards to an in-jest response to Paz's comment about needing an education.

Said GCSE is the same level of education I got in a state school.

So I'm either slagging myself off, or you're being a din. Try winding your neck in and reading what I say at face value because you evidently don't even know what a GCSE is.

Classic Jeera.
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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:06 - Apr 3 with 610 viewsmonytowbray

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:53 - Apr 3 by jeera

You made a comment about working class education not being up to scratch; the insinuation is clear.

You file under whatever fits in your fantasies kiddo.

I'll file this under Calis's constant need to feel better about himself.


Weird upvotes WKJ considering he's 100% talking b0llocks and I've provided enough evidence.
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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:08 - Apr 3 with 607 viewsSwansea_Blue

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 16:47 - Apr 3 by StokieBlue

On the immigration point, how does all that square with the post-Brexit decision to allow people to come from Hong Kong to the UK to settle given China's recent moves in the territory?

Estimates are as high as 300,000 over the next 5 years with the actual amount of people who are eligible at just over 5m.

I don't seem to see the same people who were up in arms at EU immigration or desperate people trying to get themselves a better life up in arms about this large potential migration.

Perhaps it could have something to do with this:

"The Home Office has estimated that tax receipts from new arrivals, many likely to work in well-paid sectors, suggest a net benefit to government finances of between £2.4 and £2.9 billion over five years."

Or perhaps the people who had a real issue with immigration previously just haven't cottoned on about it yet.

If the argument is that we don't have the infrastructure to accommodate more people then why isn't that argument being made about the upcoming HK immigration wave?

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I'd be surprised if the lack of outrage from the right over the HK contingent was anything to do with economics. EU migrants were tax positive remember, but that didn't stop the hate campaign. The infrastructure angle is also lame when you consider that positive tax take (I'm fairly sure the EU immigrants not only contributed more, but were less of a drain on services than the average Brit too, on account of them mostly being relatively young, healthy and of working age).

It's more likely to be simply down to (a) them not being from the EU (which means the eurosceptics aren't interested; avoiding something that has been a cancer in our politics for decades) and (b) not black, which stops the out and out racist worrying as much. (edit - the racist angle is probably tiny; far more likely people aren't talking about it because the media and commentators aren't talking about it).

I agree on the point that people with issues about immigration haven't worked out where that comes from; they don't seem to realise the extent to which certain elements of the press, social/media commentators and politicians the like of Farage are are pressing their buttons. Xenophobia and racism have been normalised by politicians and the press - that's simply a fact.
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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:10 - Apr 3 with 597 viewswkj

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:06 - Apr 3 by monytowbray

Weird upvotes WKJ considering he's 100% talking b0llocks and I've provided enough evidence.
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OCD mate, you'll term too see I do that a lot. Serious point, no joking - a mental illness I face - 100% legit.

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:13 - Apr 3 with 584 viewsSpruceMoose

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:32 - Apr 3 by wkj

I also don't understand why people on this conversation who are right-leaning are being labelled as leftist when they simply don't see how the flag enriches a child's education beyond being able to identify it.

Of course, no "rightist" would ever want political bias being taught in school - oh... wait... we seem to have reached the part in the conversation where Paz faces a dilemma.



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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:15 - Apr 3 with 577 viewsmonytowbray

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:10 - Apr 3 by wkj

OCD mate, you'll term too see I do that a lot. Serious point, no joking - a mental illness I face - 100% legit.


Ah sorry to hear. Sounds like a fker.

Although now tempted to ask what the worst thing you’ve had to upvote is based on it, although that’s down to you on a comfort level.

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:18 - Apr 3 with 573 viewswkj

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:15 - Apr 3 by monytowbray

Ah sorry to hear. Sounds like a fker.

Although now tempted to ask what the worst thing you’ve had to upvote is based on it, although that’s down to you on a comfort level.


I like you and like Jeera and don't want Paz thinking you're all turning on yourselves - as we know he doesn't follow the conversations, but he does know how up and down votes work.

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:21 - Apr 3 with 572 viewsSwansea_Blue

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 22:25 - Apr 3 by 26_Paz

There’s nothing primitive about loving one’s country. I really don’t understand why leftists hate their own country so much.


What a dumb post. That has nothing to do with post you were replying to. Not even close. A straw man of monumental proportions.

But if you're going to bring up vacuous assertions, then I think you're also wrong on that. Most on the left I know don't hate the UK. They hate what it's turned into with the loss of traditional British values, like decency, mutual respect, the rule of law, etc. That's a massive difference.

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Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 23:59 - Apr 3 with 546 viewsTangledupin_Blue

Tom Hunt is sounding incredibly dangerous on 17:52 - Apr 3 by 26_Paz

He’s right. Schools should fly the flag and they should do it with pride.


I think that Hunt is wrong.

As things are, flying the flag is a matter of individual choice. We can choose to display the union flag as a sign of pride or patriotism to mark the Queen's birthday or an historic anniversary, eg we may want to fly it on August 15th to mark the end of WW2. We can be proud that our fathers stood against despotism and prevailed; flying the flag may be a way of marking that victory.

Or we may fly the flag of St George during the World Cup or the Union Flag during the Olympic Games as a gesture of support for our sportsmen and women.

But if it were to become compulsory then it ceases to be a mark of pride or patriotism or support. Instead it becomes a sign of compliance with the regulation.

At the moment we fly it infrequently on special occasions and we notice it. If we fly it all of the time then it will become 'invisible' and meaningless

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