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Pension Fund Investors 13:53 - Apr 8 with 2342 viewsblueasfook

While I applaud new investment and new leadership, it rang a small alarm bell with me when I read GC20 is basically a front for pension fund investment. These guys don't mess about and want quick returns on their investments. If Town don't deliver, they will drop the club like a stone.

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Pension Fund Investors on 13:57 - Apr 8 with 1872 viewsjeera

No one else has mentioned this.

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Pension Fund Investors on 13:57 - Apr 8 with 1870 viewsurbanblue

I'm waiting for a big influx of new American posters on the board.

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Pension Fund Investors on 13:58 - Apr 8 with 1853 viewsjayessess

As I said elsewhere, they're 7 years and counting at Phoenix Rising. I don't see why their horizons here would be any more short term.

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Pension Fund Investors on 13:59 - Apr 8 with 1850 viewsJ2BLUE

I'd be surprised if there isn't a ten year plan behind this. A lot of the stuff people have been wary of hasn't actually come true. MOL's comments suggest they know the opportunity and there'll be some time.


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Pension Fund Investors on 14:09 - Apr 8 with 1753 viewsSpruceMoose

This week I've learned, people don't really understand pension funds.

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Pension Fund Investors on 14:14 - Apr 8 with 1717 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Pension Fund Investors on 14:09 - Apr 8 by SpruceMoose

This week I've learned, people don't really understand pension funds.


My mate's terrified by this sort of investment, to the point where he wanted the takeover to collapse. I'm no expert when it comes to financial matters and he's becoming unbearable to talk to about it, is there a way to word things that might ease his fears?
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Pension Fund Investors on 14:14 - Apr 8 with 1706 viewsIllinoisblue

Pension Fund Investors on 14:09 - Apr 8 by SpruceMoose

This week I've learned, people don't really understand pension funds.


Indeed. This pension fund take is the new Evans tax write-off

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Pension Fund Investors on 14:16 - Apr 8 with 1688 viewsKeno

Pension Fund Investors on 14:09 - Apr 8 by SpruceMoose

This week I've learned, people don't really understand pension funds.


welcome to my world sprucey!!

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Pension Fund Investors on 14:20 - Apr 8 with 1663 viewsMrTown

Pension Fund Investors on 14:14 - Apr 8 by The_Flashing_Smile

My mate's terrified by this sort of investment, to the point where he wanted the takeover to collapse. I'm no expert when it comes to financial matters and he's becoming unbearable to talk to about it, is there a way to word things that might ease his fears?


No, tell him we are doomed.

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Pension Fund Investors on 14:21 - Apr 8 with 1650 viewsfooters

Pension Fund Investors on 14:14 - Apr 8 by The_Flashing_Smile

My mate's terrified by this sort of investment, to the point where he wanted the takeover to collapse. I'm no expert when it comes to financial matters and he's becoming unbearable to talk to about it, is there a way to word things that might ease his fears?


Call him a massive fanny?

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Pension Fund Investors on 14:36 - Apr 8 with 1582 viewsFixed_It

Pension Fund Investors on 13:57 - Apr 8 by jeera

No one else has mentioned this.


You're probably right. I mean they have, but they are probably all Blueas...

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Pension Fund Investors on 14:41 - Apr 8 with 1564 viewsMuncher

As a private equity fund they will typically want to be in and out in 3-5 years, they won't want to hang around.
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Pension Fund Investors on 14:43 - Apr 8 with 1544 viewssurreyblue

If anything, pension funds are looking for very long term returns, rather than making a quick buck
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Pension Fund Investors on 14:44 - Apr 8 with 1531 viewsjayessess

Pension Fund Investors on 14:41 - Apr 8 by Muncher

As a private equity fund they will typically want to be in and out in 3-5 years, they won't want to hang around.


What's going on at Phoenix Rising then?

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Pension Fund Investors on 14:48 - Apr 8 with 1479 viewstractorboy1978

Pension Fund Investors on 14:44 - Apr 8 by jayessess

What's going on at Phoenix Rising then?


Not sure the pension fund are even involved in Phoenix? It's Benevolent Capital I believe amongst other co-owners.
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Pension Fund Investors on 14:52 - Apr 8 with 1440 viewschrismakin

Pension Fund Investors on 14:14 - Apr 8 by The_Flashing_Smile

My mate's terrified by this sort of investment, to the point where he wanted the takeover to collapse. I'm no expert when it comes to financial matters and he's becoming unbearable to talk to about it, is there a way to word things that might ease his fears?


Just tell him. The efl.wouldnt.have accepted it if the risk was a folded club anytime soon.

Well I think.

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Pension Fund Investors on 15:38 - Apr 8 with 1327 viewstrncbluearmy

Pension Fund Investors on 14:41 - Apr 8 by Muncher

As a private equity fund they will typically want to be in and out in 3-5 years, they won't want to hang around.


Private equity funds are just about the complete opposite to pension funds
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Pension Fund Investors on 15:41 - Apr 8 with 1312 viewschrismakin

Pension Fund Investors on 14:41 - Apr 8 by Muncher

As a private equity fund they will typically want to be in and out in 3-5 years, they won't want to hang around.


Dont get tho. O leary already said promotion to championship next season or the one after.
So that's poss 2 years.
You cant expect auto championship promotion wither so that could take a few years.

I reckon itll be a 6-10 year plan

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Pension Fund Investors on 16:32 - Apr 8 with 1226 viewslowhouseblue

Pension Fund Investors on 15:38 - Apr 8 by trncbluearmy

Private equity funds are just about the complete opposite to pension funds


though big pension funds will have an allocation to private equity. usually through pooled vehicles - sometimes even direct. while this seems a good opportunity for us, i'm struggling to see how it's an appropriate investment for a pension fund. they might as well start betting some of their funds on the horses.

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Pension Fund Investors on 16:50 - Apr 8 with 1195 viewstrncbluearmy

Pension Fund Investors on 16:32 - Apr 8 by lowhouseblue

though big pension funds will have an allocation to private equity. usually through pooled vehicles - sometimes even direct. while this seems a good opportunity for us, i'm struggling to see how it's an appropriate investment for a pension fund. they might as well start betting some of their funds on the horses.


an extremely low exposure though,
as ITFC will be to the pension fund backing us.
Whilst investing in sport in the UK would be seen as high risk it is quite common in USA and this fund is £10.5 bil plus.
Exposure to ITFC guessing £15m to £20m pa initially on top of first year purchase cost
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Pension Fund Investors on 17:01 - Apr 8 with 1156 viewslowhouseblue

Pension Fund Investors on 16:50 - Apr 8 by trncbluearmy

an extremely low exposure though,
as ITFC will be to the pension fund backing us.
Whilst investing in sport in the UK would be seen as high risk it is quite common in USA and this fund is £10.5 bil plus.
Exposure to ITFC guessing £15m to £20m pa initially on top of first year purchase cost


is it really common in the usa? i genuinely hadn't heard of us pension funds doing this. would big long-term mixed asset funds normally have an allocation? if it's recognised as an asset class i'm amazed that the preferred route isn't via some pooled vehicle. having sole exposure to one investment seems like sticking £20m on the two thirty. how can the pension fund managers have the expertise to assess the risk in something like this - ORG seems to be a real estate manager? i can't imagine that the uk regulator would see it as appropriate for a pension fund.

edit: found an article about private equity and sports investments:

https://www.privateequityinternational.com/the-new-playbook-how-private-equity-f

it seems to be an evolving area - but highly specialist, with managers building portfolios of diverse minority positions. it makes me think that a pension fund taking the controlling stake in a 3rd tier uk club is even odder.
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Pension Fund Investors on 17:44 - Apr 8 with 1073 viewschicoazul

Pension Fund Investors on 14:41 - Apr 8 by Muncher

As a private equity fund they will typically want to be in and out in 3-5 years, they won't want to hang around.


Private equity and pension funds are pretty much diametrically opposite, friend.

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Pension Fund Investors on 19:48 - Apr 8 with 864 viewsbraveblue

Pension funds are renowned for making long term investments.
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Pension Fund Investors on 20:04 - Apr 8 with 828 viewsSeablu

Pension Fund Investors on 14:52 - Apr 8 by chrismakin

Just tell him. The efl.wouldnt.have accepted it if the risk was a folded club anytime soon.

Well I think.


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Pension Fund Investors on 20:31 - Apr 8 with 767 viewsWicklowBlue

Pension Fund Investors on 19:48 - Apr 8 by braveblue

Pension funds are renowned for making long term investments.


This... Plus the investment would be for long term growth and based on the Investment manager. In this case The Three Kings based off previous management/returns/confidence levels. When you have billions of a portfolio to invest you are going to set aside funds for high risk growth strategies.
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