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Tory snouts in the trough 20:36 - Apr 11 with 4443 viewsHARRY10

Claiming huge sums for rent, while renting out properties they own

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/apr/11/tory-mps-claim-almost-3m-in-hou

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Tory snouts in the trough on 20:57 - Apr 11 with 2468 viewseastangliaisblue

Yeah but Union leaders are greedy.
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Tory snouts in the trough on 21:17 - Apr 11 with 2429 viewsOldsmoker

They're forced to do it - they're Tories.
If they didn't they'd be harrangued by the Express/Sun/Mail.
Got to screw the little people and the Taxpayers or they're not fit to call themselves Tories.
The real story is what Tory MP's aren't doing this - Traitors.

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Tory snouts in the trough on 21:21 - Apr 11 with 2420 viewsHARRY10

Tory snouts in the trough on 20:57 - Apr 11 by eastangliaisblue

Yeah but Union leaders are greedy.


wait till they find out Corbyn has a shed on his allotment
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Tory snouts in the trough on 21:24 - Apr 11 with 2411 viewsWD19

Tory snouts in the trough on 21:21 - Apr 11 by HARRY10

wait till they find out Corbyn has a shed on his allotment


They won’t mind at all. They all like him.
Most of them owe their jobs to him.
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Tory snouts in the trough on 21:31 - Apr 11 with 2400 viewsHARRY10

Tory snouts in the trough on 21:24 - Apr 11 by WD19

They won’t mind at all. They all like him.
Most of them owe their jobs to him.


err, them are the media

(do try to keep up)
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Tory snouts in the trough on 21:50 - Apr 11 with 2376 viewsm14_blue

Tory snouts in the trough on 21:21 - Apr 11 by HARRY10

wait till they find out Corbyn has a shed on his allotment


Or that Starmer bought a field for his disabled Mum to keep her rescue donkeys on.
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Tory snouts in the trough on 21:54 - Apr 11 with 2368 viewsHARRY10

Tory snouts in the trough on 21:50 - Apr 11 by m14_blue

Or that Starmer bought a field for his disabled Mum to keep her rescue donkeys on.


it was a country estate for her string of expensive thoroughbred race horses




don't you read the Daily Mail at all ?
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Tory snouts in the trough on 23:42 - Apr 11 with 2297 viewsfactual_blue

Tory snouts in the trough on 20:57 - Apr 11 by eastangliaisblue

Yeah but Union leaders are greedy.


And let's not forget that Ed Miliband's father was such a massive Anglophobe that he demanded to go to Belgium during the Second World War.*







*In case tom hunt is reading, Ralph Miliband volunteered to work with the Belgian resistance but was unable to do so as he was at the time a Polish national and unable to get permission from the Polish government to do so. He was, however, able to join the Royal Navy and served in the Mediterranean and at the D-Day and Toulon landings.

Don't you just hate it when asylum seekers come good tom?
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Tory snouts in the trough on 05:36 - Apr 12 with 2238 viewsBlueBadger

Tory snouts in the trough on 23:42 - Apr 11 by factual_blue

And let's not forget that Ed Miliband's father was such a massive Anglophobe that he demanded to go to Belgium during the Second World War.*







*In case tom hunt is reading, Ralph Miliband volunteered to work with the Belgian resistance but was unable to do so as he was at the time a Polish national and unable to get permission from the Polish government to do so. He was, however, able to join the Royal Navy and served in the Mediterranean and at the D-Day and Toulon landings.

Don't you just hate it when asylum seekers come good tom?
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Pffft, like Tom Hunt READS.

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Tory snouts in the trough on 09:37 - Apr 12 with 2113 viewsfactual_blue

Tory snouts in the trough on 05:36 - Apr 12 by BlueBadger

Pffft, like Tom Hunt READS.


tom hunt doesn't deserve capital letters in his name.

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Tory snouts in the trough on 09:41 - Apr 12 with 2100 viewsHARRY10

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/greensill-david-cameron-matt-hanc


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Tory snouts in the trough on 09:51 - Apr 12 with 2083 viewsCoastalblue

MP's innit, anybody really surprised by any of this any more? My MP is currently awaiting trial for £63K of housing fraud allegations which will happen once the courts get back to some sort of normality.

Do I think there will be any sort of justice served? Do I hell.

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Tory snouts in the trough on 09:58 - Apr 12 with 2059 viewsDarth_Koont

Tory snouts in the trough on 09:41 - Apr 12 by HARRY10

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/greensill-david-cameron-matt-hanc




Just about to mention Greensill.

These people should be nowhere near our public services and treasury. Utter scammers.

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Tory snouts in the trough on 10:35 - Apr 12 with 2022 viewsSwansea_Blue

Tory snouts in the trough on 21:50 - Apr 11 by m14_blue

Or that Starmer bought a field for his disabled Mum to keep her rescue donkeys on.


The b@stard.

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Tory snouts in the trough on 10:40 - Apr 12 with 2008 viewsbrazil1982

Would you prefer they paid for the London rent, and not claim it - because they own property elsewhere?

Although renting out London properties then claiming for London rent is ridiculous.
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Tory snouts in the trough on 10:44 - Apr 12 with 1995 viewsHARRY10

Tory snouts in the trough on 09:58 - Apr 12 by Darth_Koont

Just about to mention Greensill.

These people should be nowhere near our public services and treasury. Utter scammers.


The concern is that is now becoming commonplace. almost accepted - which suggests ut is far more rife than most voters think.

If this is the oublic domain, then what the hell is happening that we don't know about ?

The pandemic seemed to have been a time for various Tores to hand out contracts to their mates, with every thought that there would have been a divi out for all concerned. That is bad enough but seeing the failings these providers delivered is scandalous..... track and trace, PPE etc

Still at least this Tory is honest

https://www.cityam.com/robert-jenrick-faces-fresh-questions-over-new-planning-ro

'The Mail also revealed that Quinn Estates donated £11,000 to the Conservative party the same month the application was called up by Jenrick.

The company went on to donate a further £40,000 to the Tories over the next few months.'
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Power corrupts, absolute power.... on 10:47 - Apr 12 with 1983 viewsBloots

Tory snouts in the trough on 09:51 - Apr 12 by Coastalblue

MP's innit, anybody really surprised by any of this any more? My MP is currently awaiting trial for £63K of housing fraud allegations which will happen once the courts get back to some sort of normality.

Do I think there will be any sort of justice served? Do I hell.


....corrupts absolutely.

It's a sad reflection of life, whatever the political persuasion.

Look at Liverpool city council, the people that run that city have been milking it dry for years.

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Tory snouts in the trough on 10:55 - Apr 12 with 1965 viewsDarth_Koont

Tory snouts in the trough on 10:44 - Apr 12 by HARRY10

The concern is that is now becoming commonplace. almost accepted - which suggests ut is far more rife than most voters think.

If this is the oublic domain, then what the hell is happening that we don't know about ?

The pandemic seemed to have been a time for various Tores to hand out contracts to their mates, with every thought that there would have been a divi out for all concerned. That is bad enough but seeing the failings these providers delivered is scandalous..... track and trace, PPE etc

Still at least this Tory is honest

https://www.cityam.com/robert-jenrick-faces-fresh-questions-over-new-planning-ro

'The Mail also revealed that Quinn Estates donated £11,000 to the Conservative party the same month the application was called up by Jenrick.

The company went on to donate a further £40,000 to the Tories over the next few months.'


It kills two birds with one stone – while dismantling the state and extending the reach of private enterprise they can also skim off the top for themselves and their friends.

Not just a Tory thing either. You can see that in the new breed of Labour politician who wants to take advantage of that nexus of power, influence and money to set themselves up for life. Move up in the party (or just make a name for yourself) and they’ve got a job for life going through the revolving doors of politics, lobbying, corporate and the media worlds.

With both parties now dominated by donors too then there’s little doubt that actual democratic representation is little more than window dressing and a sideshow to the main business model.

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Tory snouts in the trough on 10:58 - Apr 12 with 1951 viewsHARRY10

"You can see that in the new breed of Labour politician who wants to take advantage of that nexus of power, influence and money to set themselves up for life. "

and you have evidence if this ?
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Tory snouts in the trough on 11:09 - Apr 12 with 1929 viewsDarth_Koont

Tory snouts in the trough on 10:58 - Apr 12 by HARRY10

"You can see that in the new breed of Labour politician who wants to take advantage of that nexus of power, influence and money to set themselves up for life. "

and you have evidence if this ?


Yes. See what happened to the Change UK lot and the Labour “dissidents” like Mann, Austin and Woodcock.

They just slid into corporate and lobbying jobs or were made peers. Democratic socialists/social democrats, my @rse. They wanted to maintain their grip on the left-side of the establishment more than see a Labour government in power.

Clearly not definitive proof. But when you put that distinct pattern over the years against the lack of ideas/unwillingness to change anything of those they left behind on the Labour right then you wonder why else these people got into politics in the first place.

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Tory snouts in the trough on 11:10 - Apr 12 with 1924 viewsCoastalblue

Tory snouts in the trough on 10:58 - Apr 12 by HARRY10

"You can see that in the new breed of Labour politician who wants to take advantage of that nexus of power, influence and money to set themselves up for life. "

and you have evidence if this ?


Blimey you can't be that one eyed, try reading some wider sources if you really think that and avoid the echo chambers.

Yes Tories are nasty and greedy, yes Labour seem to be trying to catch up.

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Tory snouts in the trough on 11:24 - Apr 12 with 1896 viewsHARRY10

Tory snouts in the trough on 11:10 - Apr 12 by Coastalblue

Blimey you can't be that one eyed, try reading some wider sources if you really think that and avoid the echo chambers.

Yes Tories are nasty and greedy, yes Labour seem to be trying to catch up.


There is a vast difference between greed and fraud. Between earning what you can and blatant corruption.

It is the high level of fraud and corruption the OP was addressing
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Corruption you say...... on 11:26 - Apr 12 with 1887 viewsBloots

Tory snouts in the trough on 11:24 - Apr 12 by HARRY10

There is a vast difference between greed and fraud. Between earning what you can and blatant corruption.

It is the high level of fraud and corruption the OP was addressing


https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/investigations-engulfing-liv

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Corruption you say...... on 11:27 - Apr 12 with 1879 viewsCoastalblue

Corruption you say...... on 11:26 - Apr 12 by Bloots

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/investigations-engulfing-liv


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/mp-apsana-begum-housing-fraud-trial-snares

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Tory snouts in the trough on 11:29 - Apr 12 with 1876 viewsDarth_Koont

Tory snouts in the trough on 11:24 - Apr 12 by HARRY10

There is a vast difference between greed and fraud. Between earning what you can and blatant corruption.

It is the high level of fraud and corruption the OP was addressing


I think gaming a representative democracy for personal gain and ultimately faking an interest in public service is fraudulent and corrupt. Maybe not criminally but certainly morally.

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