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... can’t see how this isn’t corruption and an abuse of power.
Most rotten government in memory.
Brexit basically meant that a low quality Cabinet, with questionable credentials, was formed, as any quality or seniority in the Tory leadership had resigned or been booted out of the Boris sicophant collective created to implement our EU exit.
This piece in the Guardian from Simon Jenkins. I find him a bit right-wing for my liking but his analysis of Johnson lying about NI to get Brexit done is spot on. BoJo lied to the DUP and Arlene Foster will have his guts for garters.
Sunak should resign... on 08:36 - Apr 13 by 26_Paz
I’m not sure what Sunak has done wrong? The company didn’t get any government loans did they?
This is a new one. People usually wait till after the independent report has failed to deliver the outcome they want before condemning it as a cover-up... https://t.co/wgbTJwdBks
A number of people tweeting "the Greensill report will inevitably find no rules were broken". This is already being used to prime everyone that the report (announced about an hour ago) will be a cover up. Could those same people point to which rules they believe have been broken.
Sunak should resign... on 08:48 - Apr 13 by hype313
This is a new one. People usually wait till after the independent report has failed to deliver the outcome they want before condemning it as a cover-up... https://t.co/wgbTJwdBks
A number of people tweeting "the Greensill report will inevitably find no rules were broken". This is already being used to prime everyone that the report (announced about an hour ago) will be a cover up. Could those same people point to which rules they believe have been broken.
Sunak should resign... on 08:24 - Apr 13 by Oldsmoker
This piece in the Guardian from Simon Jenkins. I find him a bit right-wing for my liking but his analysis of Johnson lying about NI to get Brexit done is spot on. BoJo lied to the DUP and Arlene Foster will have his guts for garters.
Yes, I think Jenkins’ piece about Johnson/NI is about right. The thing is that there is nothing new about the issue and the risks of NI and Brexit. The impossibility of a solution with hard brexit/ no deal were known more than three years ago.
As far as I’m concerned, Johnson lied/mislead and not by accident and should resign. Sunak’s efforts should be investigated and if he’s done wrong, he should be out too. In fact, this should be followed by a general election autumn this year or spring next, assuming the pandemic is under control. The government should stand on its record of how it handled the pandemic and the true cost of Brexit.
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Sunak should resign... on 08:54 - Apr 13 with 1477 views
Sunak should resign... on 08:50 - Apr 13 by Herbivore
Dan Hodges is a terrible 'journalist'.
Well, yes, but what's he's saying is right, what has been done wrong? Look I'm no fan of Boris and his cronies but this kind of lobbying has been going on for years under all parties, don't hate the player, hate the game.
Sunak should resign... on 08:54 - Apr 13 by hype313
Well, yes, but what's he's saying is right, what has been done wrong? Look I'm no fan of Boris and his cronies but this kind of lobbying has been going on for years under all parties, don't hate the player, hate the game.
Do you not think it's a bit odd that he's attacking people for pre-judging the inquiry whilst simultaneously suggesting no wrong-doing?
Within the existing rules Sunak (who I am not a fan of) doesn't seem to have done anything wrong and I assume that is why he released the text messages. In the end Cameron didn't get what he wanted either so I am not sure how it's abuse of power.
Lobbying can be pretty awful but it's allowed within certain remits. The discussion should be around whether those remits should be changed so this type of approach is illegal in future.
It's important to be precise with these things because anything which isn't precise and correct is open to belittling and whatabouterry from those who don't want to see reforms of the type above.
If you really want to see a disingenous individual then read this article where Cameron says he wants to take on the lobbyists:
Sunak should resign... on 09:11 - Apr 13 by StokieBlue
Within the existing rules Sunak (who I am not a fan of) doesn't seem to have done anything wrong and I assume that is why he released the text messages. In the end Cameron didn't get what he wanted either so I am not sure how it's abuse of power.
Lobbying can be pretty awful but it's allowed within certain remits. The discussion should be around whether those remits should be changed so this type of approach is illegal in future.
It's important to be precise with these things because anything which isn't precise and correct is open to belittling and whatabouterry from those who don't want to see reforms of the type above.
If you really want to see a disingenous individual then read this article where Cameron says he wants to take on the lobbyists:
Sunak should resign... on 09:11 - Apr 13 by StokieBlue
Within the existing rules Sunak (who I am not a fan of) doesn't seem to have done anything wrong and I assume that is why he released the text messages. In the end Cameron didn't get what he wanted either so I am not sure how it's abuse of power.
Lobbying can be pretty awful but it's allowed within certain remits. The discussion should be around whether those remits should be changed so this type of approach is illegal in future.
It's important to be precise with these things because anything which isn't precise and correct is open to belittling and whatabouterry from those who don't want to see reforms of the type above.
If you really want to see a disingenous individual then read this article where Cameron says he wants to take on the lobbyists:
Sunak should resign... on 09:49 - Apr 13 by Pinewoodblue
Dennis Skinner hit the nail on the head with his Dodgy Dave speech that lead to him being exclude from HoC.
I met him once, he was sat in a bench in St James Park eating his lunch (sandwiches)
Only later did I learn that he never accepted lunch, as he stated there is no such thing as a free lunch. And that he only drew the same level of pay as what his previous job in the pits would be paying.
Yet he was hounded by the right wing press. Perhaps because of those kinds of comments.
Reading some of the comments on here, which try to distract from Cameron's (and others) clear wrong doing remind me of gormless eastenders defending the Krays
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Sunak should resign... on 10:15 - Apr 13 with 1127 views
Sunak should resign... on 10:00 - Apr 13 by Herbivore
Kind of feel like Dennis is owed an apology now.
When you look at recent times, at the quality of those who have been appointed Prime Minister it makes you appreciate the Monarchy more. The thought of an all powerful President Cameron, Johnson etc is scary.
Sunak should resign... on 10:59 - Apr 13 by Pinewoodblue
When you look at recent times, at the quality of those who have been appointed Prime Minister it makes you appreciate the Monarchy more. The thought of an all powerful President Cameron, Johnson etc is scary.
Think this is where we might have to diverge. The hopelessness of the recent PMs doesn't make me any fonder of a backwards, classist, and outdated institution like the monarchy. It makes me sad that we have such low standards in public life generally but it doesn't make me thankful for the monarchy.
Sunak should resign... on 10:59 - Apr 13 by Pinewoodblue
When you look at recent times, at the quality of those who have been appointed Prime Minister it makes you appreciate the Monarchy more. The thought of an all powerful President Cameron, Johnson etc is scary.
More scary that you/one cannot trust voters to elect someone up to the job
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Sunak should resign... on 11:11 - Apr 13 with 1009 views
Sunak should resign... on 11:06 - Apr 13 by Herbivore
Think this is where we might have to diverge. The hopelessness of the recent PMs doesn't make me any fonder of a backwards, classist, and outdated institution like the monarchy. It makes me sad that we have such low standards in public life generally but it doesn't make me thankful for the monarchy.
Is an issue here that being PM only tends to appeal to certain individuals, many of whom aren't really suited to being PM? I'm thinking about Eton graduates etc.
Furthermore the more capable members of the population have better or more interesting jobs than being a politician so aren't interested either.
Douglas Adam's summed it up well in Restaurant At The End Of The Universe:
“The major problem–one of the major problems, for there are several–one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”
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Sunak should resign... on 11:17 - Apr 13 with 983 views
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