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Ah the story behind Judge club confirmed 21:20 - Apr 15 with 3952 viewschrismakin



https://www.itfc.co.uk/news/2021/april/no-contract-trigger-for-judge/
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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:21 - Apr 15 with 3193 viewsJ2BLUE

Thankfully someone was on the ball!

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:23 - Apr 15 with 3144 viewsSitfcB

Ah Phil should’ve had that scoop!! Need to just go for it Mr Ham!

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:24 - Apr 15 with 3144 viewsNthsuffolkblue

That makes sense. Unless Judge is confident that he can get a good contract somewhere else, I wonder if he could agree to cancel that clause so that he can play for the potential to be offered something here or elsewhere. Put himself in the shop window as it were.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:24 - Apr 15 with 3113 viewschrismakin

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:24 - Apr 15 by Nthsuffolkblue

That makes sense. Unless Judge is confident that he can get a good contract somewhere else, I wonder if he could agree to cancel that clause so that he can play for the potential to be offered something here or elsewhere. Put himself in the shop window as it were.


You wouldn't be able to without cancelling the contract would you?
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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:25 - Apr 15 with 3094 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

If cook rates him, we could let his deal expire, and then offer a new one.

Best to move on though I would think.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:25 - Apr 15 with 3050 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:24 - Apr 15 by chrismakin

You wouldn't be able to without cancelling the contract would you?
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Suspect it could be done by way of a side letter.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:26 - Apr 15 with 3032 viewsJ2BLUE

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:25 - Apr 15 by Marshalls_Mullet

If cook rates him, we could let his deal expire, and then offer a new one.

Best to move on though I would think.


No chance he's staying. Thankfully.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:26 - Apr 15 with 3027 viewsclive_baker

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:21 - Apr 15 by J2BLUE

Thankfully someone was on the ball!


We’ve all made that mistake on Football Manager.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:26 - Apr 15 with 3015 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:26 - Apr 15 by J2BLUE

No chance he's staying. Thankfully.


Probably right.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:27 - Apr 15 with 2975 viewsSitfcB

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:21 - Apr 15 by J2BLUE

Thankfully someone was on the ball!


Mike O’Leary has been doing some homework and reading every word of every players contract I reckon

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:27 - Apr 15 with 2966 viewsBonchosBicycle

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:24 - Apr 15 by Nthsuffolkblue

That makes sense. Unless Judge is confident that he can get a good contract somewhere else, I wonder if he could agree to cancel that clause so that he can play for the potential to be offered something here or elsewhere. Put himself in the shop window as it were.


I'm pretty sure contracts can always be amended if both parties are agreeable, and something like that could be in both parties interests.
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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:28 - Apr 15 with 2942 viewsitfcjoe

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:24 - Apr 15 by chrismakin

You wouldn't be able to without cancelling the contract would you?
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We did something similar with Jason Scotland a few years back

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:31 - Apr 15 with 2813 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:27 - Apr 15 by BonchosBicycle

I'm pretty sure contracts can always be amended if both parties are agreeable, and something like that could be in both parties interests.


Indeed. It would take the agreement of both parties. I am sure any agents would be keen to have their say for a fee too.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:33 - Apr 15 with 2741 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:31 - Apr 15 by Nthsuffolkblue

Indeed. It would take the agreement of both parties. I am sure any agents would be keen to have their say for a fee too.


To be fair, if a player wanted to get an agent involved for something that straight forward I'd politely ask them to leave and never come back.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:35 - Apr 15 with 2678 viewsitfcjoe

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:33 - Apr 15 by Marshalls_Mullet

To be fair, if a player wanted to get an agent involved for something that straight forward I'd politely ask them to leave and never come back.


Why wouldn’t a player involve their agent? It’s their job

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:39 - Apr 15 with 2554 viewsSitfcB

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:40 - Apr 15 with 2517 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:35 - Apr 15 by itfcjoe

Why wouldn’t a player involve their agent? It’s their job


It's just such a simple transaction, it's sad that a player wouldn't be able to deal with that themselves. A new contract... get your agent involved. Waiving a clause in order to play a few matches.... Have some self respect and get on with it yourself.

KDB managed to agree a new deal without an agent.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:41 - Apr 15 with 2484 viewsElderGrizzly

Probably our highest earner, so could be anything up to £500k off wage bill?

Makes perfect sense to say cheerio
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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:43 - Apr 15 with 2434 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:40 - Apr 15 by Marshalls_Mullet

It's just such a simple transaction, it's sad that a player wouldn't be able to deal with that themselves. A new contract... get your agent involved. Waiving a clause in order to play a few matches.... Have some self respect and get on with it yourself.

KDB managed to agree a new deal without an agent.


It is a contractual change and would need a legal document attached to the contract. It would be usual for someone to have legal advice for that, especially where you are talking large salaries and possibly unforeseen consequences.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:45 - Apr 15 with 2384 viewsWeWereZombies

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:31 - Apr 15 by Nthsuffolkblue

Indeed. It would take the agreement of both parties. I am sure any agents would be keen to have their say for a fee too.


After a contract has been agreed it can still be amended by a rider if all parties agree.


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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:45 - Apr 15 with 2390 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:43 - Apr 15 by Nthsuffolkblue

It is a contractual change and would need a legal document attached to the contract. It would be usual for someone to have legal advice for that, especially where you are talking large salaries and possibly unforeseen consequences.


Yep, that's what a solicitor is for. Agents aren't the for legal advice.

To be fair, it was more to do with your suggestion that the change was worthy of a fee.
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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:52 - Apr 15 with 2225 viewsTrequartista

So we've officially given up on promotion then. Sensible decision.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:55 - Apr 15 with 2141 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:52 - Apr 15 by Trequartista

So we've officially given up on promotion then. Sensible decision.


It does seem odd to leave out the player who has made all the difference in winning so many points on our way to storming the play-offs when the only consequence is being saddled with a high cost contract for another year on him.


[sarcasm in case it isn't obvious] Anyone who honestly thinks we are going to make the play-offs let alone win them is hopelessly deluded. Indeed, the best chance might be to stick in hungry youngsters and tell them to prove themselves worthy of Championship football.

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:57 - Apr 15 with 2093 viewschrismakin

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:55 - Apr 15 by Nthsuffolkblue

It does seem odd to leave out the player who has made all the difference in winning so many points on our way to storming the play-offs when the only consequence is being saddled with a high cost contract for another year on him.


[sarcasm in case it isn't obvious] Anyone who honestly thinks we are going to make the play-offs let alone win them is hopelessly deluded. Indeed, the best chance might be to stick in hungry youngsters and tell them to prove themselves worthy of Championship football.


I was quiet concerned when I read your first sentence

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Ah the story behind Judge on 21:59 - Apr 15 with 2040 viewsBlueBadger

Ah the story behind Judge on 21:52 - Apr 15 by Trequartista

So we've officially given up on promotion then. Sensible decision.


We did that last May when we failed to sack Lambert.

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